Oi. There's an elephant in the room

[MilnersJaw]

Giggs has been shit for years, it's just the rags have bought shit that he hasn't been replaced yet. Cunt of a person to.

[aaron bond]

Giggs has been shit for years, it's just the rags have bought shit that he hasn't been replaced yet. Cunt of a person to.

So the club who has won 5 out of the last 7 league titles has been buying shit, and Giggs is just slightly better than that???

I know, in your opinion, United might not be very good but the fact is they have been winning titles regularly in recent years, even if I wouldn't want their players at City. Giggs has played a role in that.

What he did in his personal life was completely out of order, but the fact he's playing regular Premier League football is impressive, regardless of who you support.

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

He played for Wales because he was Welsh. He played for England school boys as he was schooled in England nothing to do with being English or Welsh. Not a very nice man to cheat on his family etc but can't be knocked as a player. Nearly a 1000 league games under his belt, won all the majors in club football and still going strong at 40. I'm told his fitness levels are as good as any young player. Sorry but you cant not respect that. I don't think we will ever see the likes of him again.

This.

For whoever asked, a football fan is someone who likes football. It's no wonder some of the people at games chat utter bollocks if they think it's bad form to enjoy/talk about anything other than City the rest of the time.

[Burt]

Most over-hyped player in the history of the game and that includes Beckscum too!

Not fit to lace the boots of a real top pro like Colin The King.

As for trying to cover up shagging his brother's wife for seven years and let's not forget that he also tried it on with her mother a few times, the cunt should be hung by the nadgers on the town hall steps on a Saturday afternoon.

That is all really.

[Alioune DVToure]

The only elephant in the room is a certain poster's obsession with a certain club other than City. It's like gay-bashing; said poster's level of fascination with what he or she purports to despise really does make one wonder.

[Twobob]

The only elephant in the room is a certain poster's obsession with a certain club other than City. It's like gay-bashing; said poster's level of fascination with what he or she purports to despise really does make one wonder.

You must be mistaken mate, I'm the closet rag apparently ... Oh the shame a d anguish ;-)

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The only elephant in the room is a certain poster's obsession with a certain club other than City. It's like gay-bashing; said poster's level of fascination with what he or she purports to despise really does make one wonder.

Agreed. I find it particularly weird that we can't have a discussion about a United player, without about 50% of this board ruining the thread by going' he's a rag cunt and the most overhyped player ever and anyone that thinks he's good is a closet rag'

it just makes us look bitter. On their forums, they seem to be able to (mostly) discuss our players objectively without taking the party line of 'he's a blue cunt and therefore shit'.
By all means give them shit on derby days and what not but it's a football forum and we should be able to discuss a players footballing ability no matter who he plays for.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

I think some posters in here have spent too much time in the soft furnishings department at debenhams

[Alioune DVToure]

I think some posters in here have spent too much time in the soft furnishings department at debenhams

Is that a euphemism for 'talking about City'?

[sheblue]

he can fuck right off with himself, a first class prick, massively over rated.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

The only elephant in the room is a certain poster's obsession with a certain club other than City. It's like gay-bashing; said poster's level of fascination with what he or she purports to despise really does make one wonder.

Agreed. I find it particularly weird that we can't have a discussion about a United player, without about 50% of this board ruining the thread by going' he's a rag cunt and the most overhyped player ever and anyone that thinks he's good is a closet rag'

it just makes us look bitter. On their forums, they seem to be able to (mostly) discuss our players objectively without taking the party line of 'he's a blue cunt and therefore shit'.
By all means give them shit on derby days and what not but it's a football forum and we should be able to discuss a players footballing ability no matter who he plays for.

To be perfectly fair, some people with long memories still remember the pre-meditated foul by George Best on Glyn Pardoe, which ended his career (he had to be rushed to hospital and he came within minutes of losing his leg).

Moreover some people still remember the pre-meditated foul by Martin Buchan on Colin the King, which virtually ended his career (and the way that Buchan was laughing about it on the pitch thereafter).

In further consideration, there is also Roy Keane's pre-meditated foul on Alfie Haaland which ended his career (and which Keane boasted about in his book).

These three examples alone, notwithstanding the overall sour 'history' between City and the Scum, especially during the more recent Ferguson past, are enough for some to feel real animosity to the Swamp-dwellers, their fans and their players.

On that basis, you can't blame anyone for not feeling charitable towards Giggs, given the character flaws in the man's make-up and the way he has conducted himself.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The only elephant in the room is a certain poster's obsession with a certain club other than City. It's like gay-bashing; said poster's level of fascination with what he or she purports to despise really does make one wonder.

Agreed. I find it particularly weird that we can't have a discussion about a United player, without about 50% of this board ruining the thread by going' he's a rag cunt and the most overhyped player ever and anyone that thinks he's good is a closet rag'

it just makes us look bitter. On their forums, they seem to be able to (mostly) discuss our players objectively without taking the party line of 'he's a blue cunt and therefore shit'.
By all means give them shit on derby days and what not but it's a football forum and we should be able to discuss a players footballing ability no matter who he plays for.

To be perfectly fair, some people with long memories still remember the pre-meditated foul by George Best on Glyn Pardoe, which ended his career (he had to be rushed to hospital and he came within minutes of losing his leg).

Moreover some people still remember the pre-meditated foul by Martin Buchan on Colin the King, which virtually ended his career (and the way that Buchan was laughing about it on the pitch thereafter).

In further consideration, there is also Roy Keane's pre-meditated foul on Alfie Haaland which ended his career (and which Keane boasted about in his book).

These three examples alone, notwithstanding the overall sour 'history' between City and the Scum, especially during the more recent Ferguson past, are enough for some to feel real animosity to the Swamp-dwellers, their fans and their players.

On that basis, you can't blame anyone for not feeling charitable towards Giggs, given the character flaws in the man's make-up and the way he has conducted himself.

Absolutely.
They're cunts because of who they are, rather than who they played for though. But that doesn't take away from their ability.
But why does anyone really care about what Giggs did in his personal life? Are posters on here really connected with his brother?
I couldn't give two shits what footballers do in their spare time.
Giggs to my knowledge has never been that much of a cunt towards us, I'm sure he's given us some stick but he's far from the worst.


But we should be able to put his personal life to one side and discuss his ability as a footballer.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

To be perfectly fair, some people with long memories still remember the pre-meditated foul by George Best on Glyn Pardoe, which ended his career (he had to be rushed to hospital and he came within minutes of losing his leg). Moreover some people still remember the pre-meditated foul by Martin Buchan on Colin the King, which virtually ended his career (and the way that Buchan was laughing about it on the pitch thereafter). In further consideration, there is also Roy Keane's pre-meditated foul on Alfie Haaland which ended his career (and which Keane boasted about in his book). These three examples alone, notwithstanding the overall sour 'history' between City and the Scum, especially during the more recent Ferguson past, are enough for some to feel real animosity to the Swamp-dwellers, their fans and their players. On that basis, you can't blame anyone for not feeling charitable towards Giggs, given the character flaws in the man's make-up and the way he has conducted himself.

At last a post with some sense. I am not in the least bit ashamed to hate United. For me it goes with being from Manchester and being old enough to remember Glyn Pardoe's assault by the drunken failure of a man who carried on drinking after some poor soul had given him his liver. I was at the game when that bastard did for Alf. Not only was i there i was in the seats behind the Stretford end courtesy of a friend with a block of exec seats and had me as a guest so long as I shut up if we scored. When Alf was carried off you should heard the chants of delight coming not only from the Stretford end but the monied up day trippers in the exec seats.

Make no mistake this club is a cancer. A gangrenous pustule of a boil on the arse of football and I wish with all my heart any kind of woe befalls them, starting with the receivers when they eventually don't get into europe - altho they will insist they should be there by right forever.

For all those who reckon United are a team of good chaps past and present I have only two words to say to you and one is off. Enjoy your sky coverage and your spritzers if you like but City is my club. A Manchester club. A community club. It may be many things now that it wasn't when I was younger but one thing it will never be is a place where Ryan Dregs or any other "great United footballer" is going to be treated with anything other than hatred.

[Alioune DVToure]

At last a post with some sense. I am not in the least bit ashamed to hate United. For me it goes with being from Manchester and being old enough to remember Glyn Pardoe's assault by the drunken failure of a man who carried on drinking after some poor soul had given him his liver. I was at the game when that bastard did for Alf. Not only was i there i was in the seats behind the Stretford end courtesy of a friend with a block of exec seats and had me as a guest so long as I shut up if we scored. When Alf was carried off you should heard the chants of delight coming not only from the Stretford end but the monied up day trippers in the exec seats.

Make no mistake this club is a cancer. A gangrenous pustule of a boil on the arse of football and I wish with all my heart any kind of woe befalls them, starting with the receivers when they eventually don't get into europe - altho they will insist they should be there by right forever.

For all those who reckon United are a team of good chaps past and present I have only two words to say to you and one is off. Enjoy your sky coverage and your spritzers if you like but City is my club. A Manchester club. A community club. It may be many things now that it wasn't when I was younger but one thing it will never be is a place where Ryan Dregs or any other "great United footballer" is going to be treated with anything other than hatred.

That's all well and good but it's besides the point.

Your username, all the threads you start and 90% of your posts are passing comment on Stretford. None of us like them but you do wonder about the motives of someone who has to remind us every five minutes just how much they hate them.

For me, disliking them comes a distant second to loving City. And I've never had a spritzer. And I was there every week through the tough times.

As for Giggs, he's a shit human being who's had an excellent career in football at a slimy club. End of.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

To be perfectly fair, some people with long memories still remember the pre-meditated foul by George Best on Glyn Pardoe, which ended his career (he had to be rushed to hospital and he came within minutes of losing his leg). Moreover some people still remember the pre-meditated foul by Martin Buchan on Colin the King, which virtually ended his career (and the way that Buchan was laughing about it on the pitch thereafter). In further consideration, there is also Roy Keane's pre-meditated foul on Alfie Haaland which ended his career (and which Keane boasted about in his book). These three examples alone, notwithstanding the overall sour 'history' between City and the Scum, especially during the more recent Ferguson past, are enough for some to feel real animosity to the Swamp-dwellers, their fans and their players. On that basis, you can't blame anyone for not feeling charitable towards Giggs, given the character flaws in the man's make-up and the way he has conducted himself.

At last a post with some sense. I am not in the least bit ashamed to hate United. For me it goes with being from Manchester and being old enough to remember Glyn Pardoe's assault by the drunken failure of a man who carried on drinking after some poor soul had given him his liver. I was at the game when that bastard did for Alf. Not only was i there i was in the seats behind the Stretford end courtesy of a friend with a block of exec seats and had me as a guest so long as I shut up if we scored. When Alf was carried off you should heard the chants of delight coming not only from the Stretford end but the monied up day trippers in the exec seats.

Make no mistake this club is a cancer. A gangrenous pustule of a boil on the arse of football and I wish with all my heart any kind of woe befalls them, starting with the receivers when they eventually don't get into europe - altho they will insist they should be there by right forever.

For all those who reckon United are a team of good chaps past and present I have only two words to say to you and one is off. Enjoy your sky coverage and your spritzers if you like but City is my club. A Manchester club. A community club. It may be many things now that it wasn't when I was younger but one thing it will never be is a place where Ryan Dregs or any other "great United footballer" is going to be treated with anything other than hatred.

Sometimes you just need to not take football so seriously.
It's a game which brings enjoyment and entertainment. It shouldn't be a source of hatred for others. Yeah I give the rags shit and rub it in a bit when we beat them on derby days. I enjoy a bit of banter with Rag mates, it occasionally gets a tad heated but after that it's fine and it blows over quickly.

There are more important things.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Just for the record it's my dog that hates the rags. He's a rescue from Collyhurst and my God are they particular about not eating ready salted crisps or having ketchup on their bacon butties up there.

As far as the number of posts initiated by the rag hating dog's owner goes ive just counted them and they're 50/50. I don't start that many though, the previous one being "drop Hart" which continues to run 2 months later, so not altogether uni-directional and stating that 90% are United hating is using hyperbole to advance a prejudiced predisposition.

In my opinion sleeping with your brother's wife isn't the solitary issue per se. It is, however, indicative of the quality of the man as a human being and when that person is in a position of responsibility in the form of influencing impressionable kids then I think it merits discussion. For some apparently no discussion can be brooked, but I for one am not in the least bit surprised that he is from the same vintage that thinks "spit roasting" pissed up young girls they've invited to their Xmas party is all good seasonal fun. Arguably these 18 and 19 year olds are consenting adults. I still say though that footballers need to demonstrate a certain standard of behaviour and this view point is echoed by sponsors who withdraw their money when sportsmen go too far - ask Tiger Woods.

[Alioune DVToure]

Just for the record it's my dog that hates the rags. He's a rescue from Collyhurst and my God are they particular about not eating ready salted crisps or having ketchup on their bacon butties up there.

As far as the number of posts initiated by the rag hating dog's owner goes ive just counted them and they're 50/50. I don't start that many though, the previous one being "drop Hart" which continues to run 2 months later, so not altogether uni-directional and stating that 90% are United hating is using hyperbole to advance a prejudiced predisposition.

In my opinion sleeping with your brother's wife isn't the solitary issue per se. It is, however, indicative of the quality of the man as a human being and when that person is in a position of responsibility in the form of influencing impressionable kids then I think it merits discussion. For some apparently no discussion can be brooked, but I for one am not in the least bit surprised that he is from the same vintage that thinks "spit roasting" pissed up young girls they've invited to their Xmas party is all good seasonal fun. Arguably these 18 and 19 year olds are consenting adults. I still say though that footballers need to demonstrate a certain standard of behaviour and this view point is echoed by sponsors who withdraw their money when sportsmen go too far - ask Tiger Woods.

Your last thread before this one may well have been on Hart, but these are the three topics you started prior to that one and this one on Giggs:

'Gollumosaurus'
'Shrek'
'Yet more ongoing talks' [a bizarre piece about offering David Gill €37]

So four out of the last five.

I don't disagree with your assessment of Stretford being scummy; I just think you prefer discussing them to discussing City.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Your last thread before this one may well have been on Hart, but these are the three topics you started prior to that one and this one on Giggs: 'Gollumosaurus' 'Shrek' 'Yet more ongoing talks' [a bizarre piece about offering David Gill €37] So four out of the last five. I don't disagree with your assessment of Stretford being scummy; I just think you prefer discussing them to discussing City.

Apols. Wasnt aware of the arbitrary time line employed to come up with your statistic, which incidentally even if I had been would have made the stat 80 percent.

[Alioune DVToure]

Apols. Wasnt aware of the arbitrary time line employed to come up with your statistic, which incidentally even if I had been would have made the stat 80 percent.

80% then. You've got four times more to say about the team you hate than the team you love.

Incidentally, the thread before that was on Opta stats. No mention of City there either. I can go back further if you're challenging me to prove my point.

EDIT: The one before that - as far as I can tell - was titled 'BBC Rags'. Six out of seven is 86%. Getting close.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

80% then. You've got four times more to say about the team you hate than the team you love. Incidentally, the thread before that was on Opta stats. No mention of City there either. I can go back further if you're challenging me to prove my point. EDIT: The one before that - as far as I can tell - was titled 'BBC Rags'. Six out of seven is 86%. Getting close.

You need to get out more