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Re: the biting racist

Postby nottsblue » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:09 am

twosips wrote:I'm not really having it that he goes missing the week after. He has the odd bad game in ten, but Suarez invariably always scores, and that ain't bad considering he plays for Liverpool and not with Yaya, Silva, Nasri etc. He's the best player in the league. An absolute genius capable of magic. I hate admitting it cos i hate him, but he is the best player in the league.

I love, love, love Aguero, but he couldn't single handedly make Liverpool like half decent like Suarez can.


This. Take Suarez out of dippers and they are mid table. If we lose Aguero we are still there or thereabouts. As a footballer he is top drawer. As a man his morals and ethics are low and questionable at best.
That he may be the best individual player in league I personally would still prefer Kun in our team as i think his temprament is clearly better and isn't likely to cause controversy like Suarez and Kun is still a fantastic footballer. Him and Negredo are forming something special.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:10 am

Don't like the cunt but that's the best hat trick anyone has ever scored for the scousers. Better than Dalglish, Keegan anyone. Incredible quality.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:38 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Don't like the cunt but that's the best hat trick anyone has ever scored for the scousers. Better than Dalglish, Keegan anyone. Incredible quality.



He is seriously world class.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:51 am

Beefymcfc wrote:As a point of principle, he's a cunt!


I'm in this camp. It doesn't matter to me how good a player he is. He should not even be thought of as a possible City payer. But with him being from a Spanish-speaking country, there is always a reasonable chance.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby phips » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:12 am

anyone know the stat of how many goals he's scored vs Norwich?

I think he's now scored 11 in the last 4 games? 2 hattricks in a row, 1 goal, and today's 4...

EDIT: actually, apparently my thinking is right. 11 vs. norwich.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:20 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I love Sergio don't get me wrong but even he couldn't have scored 3 goals of that quality in a single game. Just astonishing.


This is my point: What's the point in bagging three golazos against a team that scores just one in reply and then going missing the weekend after? He may well do; he was woeful at Hull last weekend.

Sergio has been consistently brilliant all season.

Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:40 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Breks » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:46 am

sheblue wrote:
Who is better?


Danny Welbeck.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby aaron bond » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:00 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.


Suarez scored as many in that season as Aguero did last year.

2 years ago I would have clearly said Aguero was the better player, but Suarez has turned into a phenomenal player since then. Aguero was awful in too many games last year. He only played so often because Mancini wouldn't get over the Tevez saga and subbed Tevez every game to show who him who's boss, which cost us games such as the Cup Final when we were left with an ineffective Aguero up front.

*Edit

Just to add that I actually don't think there's much between the 2 of them. Both are technically excellent and both score plenty of goals. Both are also in incredible form right now.

Aguero has the added advantage of not being a massive bell-end.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:04 am

Suarez is a spectacular 'on the day' player, but Aguero is a better player imo. By a reasonable distance.

Suarez plays most games against teams who are trying to beat him, not against teams who are set up to try & stop him.

Sturridge also benefits from that.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:07 am

Suarez is awesome and completely unstoppable on his day. He is in great form this season, Top scorer in the league after missing the first 6 games. quality player.... However, gotta love Kun,
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Goaters 103 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:24 am

Top player, shitbag of a person, as has been said before.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:46 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.
I don't want you to think I'm knocking Sergio because both are wonderful players. But on your point on consistency, aguero has scored in 8 out of 12/13 games this season (came off bench v stoke) whereas Suarez has scored in 6 of the 9 he's played. That's a very similar ratio and to me shows both are as consistent as each other in regards to scoring. I'd disagree that Sergio is necessarily technically better. I'm not so sure he could have scored the goals the biter did last night. Agüero is the better finisher, but Suarez is better in the air, better from distance and better from set pieces. It's a very tough call but in terms of individual quality I'd give it to Suarez just.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:08 am

What's funny is that Liverpool got £50m for busted flush Fernando and got the young, sprightly Suarez for about £21m just days later.

What's hilarious is they completely undermined their own great work in the transfer market by spaffing £35m on Andy Carroll straight after that.

People actually forget just what a great price they paid for LS.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:11 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.
I don't want you to think I'm knocking Sergio because both are wonderful players. But on your point on consistency, aguero has scored in 8 out of 12/13 games this season (came off bench v stoke) whereas Suarez has scored in 6 of the 9 he's played. That's a very similar ratio and to me shows both are as consistent as each other in regards to scoring. I'd disagree that Sergio is necessarily technically better. I'm not so sure he could have scored the goals the biter did last night. Agüero is the better finisher, but Suarez is better in the air, better from distance and better from set pieces. It's a very tough call but in terms of individual quality I'd give it to Suarez just.


Who would you rather have in your team?
If you could swap Suarez for Aguero in January would you?
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Re: the biting racist

Postby twosips » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:17 am

in relation to that ^ that's tainted cos Suarez is a world class arsehole whereas Aguero isn't. If Suarez wasn't then we'd all want him.

You're allowed to think Suarez is better but not want him at City. Which is what i think of him.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:19 am

twosips wrote:in relation to that ^ that's tainted cos Suarez is a world class arsehole whereas Aguero isn't. If Suarez wasn't then we'd all want him.

You're allowed to think Suarez is better but not want him at City. Which is what i think of him.


I think he's inferior to Agüero but I would have him.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:21 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
twosips wrote:in relation to that ^ that's tainted cos Suarez is a world class arsehole whereas Aguero isn't. If Suarez wasn't then we'd all want him.

You're allowed to think Suarez is better but not want him at City. Which is what i think of him.


I think he's inferior to Agüero but I would have him.


Same here, I'd have him at City in a heartbeat, would still rather Aguero given the choice though.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:26 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.
I don't want you to think I'm knocking Sergio because both are wonderful players. But on your point on consistency, aguero has scored in 8 out of 12/13 games this season (came off bench v stoke) whereas Suarez has scored in 6 of the 9 he's played. That's a very similar ratio and to me shows both are as consistent as each other in regards to scoring. I'd disagree that Sergio is necessarily technically better. I'm not so sure he could have scored the goals the biter did last night. Agüero is the better finisher, but Suarez is better in the air, better from distance and better from set pieces. It's a very tough call but in terms of individual quality I'd give it to Suarez just.


Who would you rather have in your team?
If you could swap Suarez for Aguero in January would you?

I think that's a question you'd have to ask the neutrals.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:48 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Suarez has now scored two more goals than aguero which is impressive given he didn't start this season until the 25th September. Add that to the fact Suarez scored far more than him and was the much better player last season and I'm not sure what your claim that sergio is more consistent is based on.


Performance levels, as I've said. It isn't bean counting. I've already highlighted the futility of scoring a flurry against a beaten team and then being unable to score one to get your team back into a different game, as was the case at Hull last week. Edin Dzeko has a phenomenal goalscoring record but is neither consistent nor world class. Sergio scores a lot of crucial goals for us.

These are my criteria:

Technically more gifted, more intelligent and more graceful. (AGÜERO)

More consistently effective/fewer bad games. (AGÜERO)

Goals are obviously important, but Sergio more than pulls his weight on that front. Also, Sergio was slightly below par last season but Suarez was ineffective and goalless for much of 2011/12.
I don't want you to think I'm knocking Sergio because both are wonderful players. But on your point on consistency, aguero has scored in 8 out of 12/13 games this season (came off bench v stoke) whereas Suarez has scored in 6 of the 9 he's played. That's a very similar ratio and to me shows both are as consistent as each other in regards to scoring. I'd disagree that Sergio is necessarily technically better. I'm not so sure he could have scored the goals the biter did last night. Agüero is the better finisher, but Suarez is better in the air, better from distance and better from set pieces. It's a very tough call but in terms of individual quality I'd give it to Suarez just.


Who would you rather have in your team?
If you could swap Suarez for Aguero in January would you?

I think that's a question you'd have to ask the neutrals.


I'm asking you.
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