AG7 wrote:Just like the weekend when all others lost and everybody rooted for the Scum to beat Arsenal for the sake of the league so they don't run away creating a larger gap at the top ... this weekend is no different, so Everton win pls. !!!
If Arsenal wins today then their next game vs us will become an absolute must win for us cuz gap will be significant and god forbid we lose that, that'll be it for the league ... so for us not to be in that kind of immense pressure, I'm rooting for Everton today, don't have any other choice really!
Arsenal on the other hand, if they win their next three, which are Everton, us and Chelsea, then I guess that'll be that ... cuz I don't see us (or Chelsea) putting together a string of 8-10 wins in the league this season ...
AG7 wrote:Just like the weekend when all others lost and everybody rooted for the Scum to beat Arsenal for the sake of the league so they don't run away creating a larger gap at the top ... this weekend is no different, so Everton win pls. !!!
If Arsenal wins today then their next game vs us will become an absolute must win for us cuz gap will be significant and god forbid we lose that, that'll be it for the league ... so for us not to be in that kind of immense pressure, I'm rooting for Everton today, don't have any other choice really!
Arsenal on the other hand, if they win their next three, which are Everton, us and Chelsea, then I guess that'll be that ... cuz I don't see us (or Chelsea) putting together a string of 8-10 wins in the league this season ...
Breks wrote:dazby wrote:Everton traditionally struggle in London. Just saying.
They traditionally struggled at the swamp until Wednesday.
Beefymcfc wrote:AG7 wrote:Just like the weekend when all others lost and everybody rooted for the Scum to beat Arsenal for the sake of the league so they don't run away creating a larger gap at the top ... this weekend is no different, so Everton win pls. !!!
If Arsenal wins today then their next game vs us will become an absolute must win for us cuz gap will be significant and god forbid we lose that, that'll be it for the league ... so for us not to be in that kind of immense pressure, I'm rooting for Everton today, don't have any other choice really!
Arsenal on the other hand, if they win their next three, which are Everton, us and Chelsea, then I guess that'll be that ... cuz I don't see us (or Chelsea) putting together a string of 8-10 wins in the league this season ...
If they beat Everton, us and Chelsea then you'd have to say that they'd be deserving leaders and although the season has a long way to go it will be very difficult to claw that back; only a collapse of epic proportions would allow other teams in.
However, this is a difficult month for Arsenal, probably the hardest set of games they've had to date and we will see what they are made of. I'm not expecting it to be easy for them and can see us closing the gap, as long as we get our shit in a sock.
If Arsenal win today, and I think they will, it means we have to pick up 3 games where they don't and we have to start by beating them next weekend.
Ted Hughes wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:AG7 wrote:Just like the weekend when all others lost and everybody rooted for the Scum to beat Arsenal for the sake of the league so they don't run away creating a larger gap at the top ... this weekend is no different, so Everton win pls. !!!
If Arsenal wins today then their next game vs us will become an absolute must win for us cuz gap will be significant and god forbid we lose that, that'll be it for the league ... so for us not to be in that kind of immense pressure, I'm rooting for Everton today, don't have any other choice really!
Arsenal on the other hand, if they win their next three, which are Everton, us and Chelsea, then I guess that'll be that ... cuz I don't see us (or Chelsea) putting together a string of 8-10 wins in the league this season ...
If they beat Everton, us and Chelsea then you'd have to say that they'd be deserving leaders and although the season has a long way to go it will be very difficult to claw that back; only a collapse of epic proportions would allow other teams in.
However, this is a difficult month for Arsenal, probably the hardest set of games they've had to date and we will see what they are made of. I'm not expecting it to be easy for them and can see us closing the gap, as long as we get our shit in a sock.
If Arsenal win today, and I think they will, it means we have to pick up 3 games where they don't and we have to start by beating them next weekend.
As I've just mentioned in the other thread, they have a much harder test to come during the run in, when they will be under pressure.
Right now they have no pressure.
Beefymcfc wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:AG7 wrote:Just like the weekend when all others lost and everybody rooted for the Scum to beat Arsenal for the sake of the league so they don't run away creating a larger gap at the top ... this weekend is no different, so Everton win pls. !!!
If Arsenal wins today then their next game vs us will become an absolute must win for us cuz gap will be significant and god forbid we lose that, that'll be it for the league ... so for us not to be in that kind of immense pressure, I'm rooting for Everton today, don't have any other choice really!
Arsenal on the other hand, if they win their next three, which are Everton, us and Chelsea, then I guess that'll be that ... cuz I don't see us (or Chelsea) putting together a string of 8-10 wins in the league this season ...
If they beat Everton, us and Chelsea then you'd have to say that they'd be deserving leaders and although the season has a long way to go it will be very difficult to claw that back; only a collapse of epic proportions would allow other teams in.
However, this is a difficult month for Arsenal, probably the hardest set of games they've had to date and we will see what they are made of. I'm not expecting it to be easy for them and can see us closing the gap, as long as we get our shit in a sock.
If Arsenal win today, and I think they will, it means we have to pick up 3 games where they don't and we have to start by beating them next weekend.
As I've just mentioned in the other thread, they have a much harder test to come during the run in, when they will be under pressure.
Right now they have no pressure.
And the reason for that is?
Yep, you guessed it, the other so-called contenders have let it happen and there's nothing to suggest that we won't continue to let them play freely with no looking over their shoulders.
As I said earlier, Arsenal seized the opportunity knowing that other teams were in a state of flux. Liverpool are also benefitting from having continuation with minimal change to the playing side.
Beefymcfc wrote:I think we are saying the same thing Ted. Arsenal have grasped the bit in Taggarts exit.
I have no doubts that they will fuck up at times but at the moment they are the team to chase. This again has been made easier without the spectre of RasherChops looking over them and now that Wenger is the elder statesman, so to speak, his own confidence has risen just enough to put them where they are.
Strangely, I'm hoping we're 5th come the end of this weekends games. Let's see how they shake it up with teams getting that little bit closer.
Ted Hughes wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I think we are saying the same thing Ted. Arsenal have grasped the bit in Taggarts exit.
I have no doubts that they will fuck up at times but at the moment they are the team to chase. This again has been made easier without the spectre of RasherChops looking over them and now that Wenger is the elder statesman, so to speak, his own confidence has risen just enough to put them where they are.
Strangely, I'm hoping we're 5th come the end of this weekends games. Let's see how they shake it up with teams getting that little bit closer.
Sooner or later, it's likely they will have at least one, possibly two, three, four teams right on top of them.
That's when players, fans, media, manager start to consider if all that hard work, all that happiness & optimism, could suddenly be cancelled out by a couple of defensive slipups & you could end up even fifth. Then come the slipups.
We saw it happen even in our title winning season, but suddenly Tevez, Yaya, Silva, players like Barry, VK AND LESCOTT, all suddenly found another gear, the rags' arses then went & we became winners again, just like that.
Even then, having 'won it' we nearly blew it on the last day though, with both JL & VK, who had both been immense & cool as fuck in the 'title decider' v Utd, fucking up v QPR even though we were on top.
A lot can & most probably will happen between now & May & pressure will be a big factor.
Beefymcfc wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I think we are saying the same thing Ted. Arsenal have grasped the bit in Taggarts exit.
I have no doubts that they will fuck up at times but at the moment they are the team to chase. This again has been made easier without the spectre of RasherChops looking over them and now that Wenger is the elder statesman, so to speak, his own confidence has risen just enough to put them where they are.
Strangely, I'm hoping we're 5th come the end of this weekends games. Let's see how they shake it up with teams getting that little bit closer.
Sooner or later, it's likely they will have at least one, possibly two, three, four teams right on top of them.
That's when players, fans, media, manager start to consider if all that hard work, all that happiness & optimism, could suddenly be cancelled out by a couple of defensive slipups & you could end up even fifth. Then come the slipups.
We saw it happen even in our title winning season, but suddenly Tevez, Yaya, Silva, players like Barry, VK AND LESCOTT, all suddenly found another gear, the rags' arses then went & we became winners again, just like that.
Even then, having 'won it' we nearly blew it on the last day though, with both JL & VK, who had both been immense & cool as fuck in the 'title decider' v Utd, fucking up v QPR even though we were on top.
A lot can & most probably will happen between now & May & pressure will be a big factor.
We can all theorise on where we will be in a few months, or even next week, but what we can say is that we as a team are not making the inroads that we'd like. We talk about pressure but then pile it on ourselves. Our on the road experiences have not helped and like yesterday, we still seem to be getting over-run and even though we win at home we still look disjointed at times, allowing the oppo many opportunities that they haven't taken.
On the other hand, Arsenal have taken theirs and the bundled goal they got last weekend to take the points just shows that it's not all about the football, sometimes it's that little luck that comes your way and if you take it or not.
Beefymcfc wrote:One thing I will say is that people need to stop relying on Arsenal falling apart and having faith that we'll come good. There's no guarantee with either and putting blind faith in the hope it happens seems very naive to say the least.
Tesl wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:One thing I will say is that people need to stop relying on Arsenal falling apart and having faith that we'll come good. There's no guarantee with either and putting blind faith in the hope it happens seems very naive to say the least.
Okay. What would you advise us fans to do instead?
I just want to make sure I'm not hoping for the wrong thing, incase that tips the balance out of our favour.
Beefymcfc wrote:I'm not sure I'd say that our 2 respective games were similar, I'd actually say they were polar opposites. Arsenal went to Cardiff, dominated the play and were incisive when needed. We, on the other hand, went to Cardiff, had clear possession but never really looked in control. We were also clumsy in defence and I'm sure Cardiff had more shots on target than us.
What we've seen so far is that we've not got to grips on our travels and possibly the best I've seen us play, when we changed the formation a little, was the Chelsea game. Maybe if we gave teams a little more respect and actually made it difficult for them to outplay our midfield then the losses and draws would turn into a greater points tally. Until we sort that out, Arsenal will carry on eclipsing us and stay, points wise, well infront.
One thing I will say is that people need to stop relying on Arsenal falling apart and having faith that we'll come good. There's no guarantee with either and putting blind faith in the hope it happens seems very naive to say the least.
Beefymcfc wrote:I'm not lecturing anybody Ted as this is a debate. One thing you have seemed to devise from my posts is that I believe Arsenal have already won it when that clearly isn't my stance. It's the way it is being banded around as if it's a matter of fact, just as it was last year and the year before with us.
Last season we fell short as a team whereas the year before we pulled it back. That's the thing, anything can happen. Arsenal may go on a mazy run or they may fall flat on their arse, same as us.
As for deriding, I've no need to deride anybody for their opinion, although I will try to keep a bright outlook on things. I have that same outlook this year and believe that we'll pull it back, just not the way some others are envisaging.
Lecturing, deriding, anybody would think you're being a little soft there mate.
Ted Hughes wrote:Not seen any evidence yet that will change. Likewise, I haven't seen anything in City's performances that says we can't get our shit together & beat everybody, every week, even in 2nd gear. We have about 50% more in us imo, wheras Arse are at full capacity.
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