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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:27 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I love Aguero, but Suarez is just on another level this season.
He has 19 goals in half a season, which considering he missed the first 5 or 6 games is startling.
Possibly the most technically gifted player I've seen in the PL, up there with even the likes of Henry and Ronaldo.


So I take it aguero no longer has the title of best goals to minute ratio ever seen in the premier league then?
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Re: the biting racist

Postby blue-nova » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:34 pm

At the moment Suarez is scoring over 50% of Liverpool's goals. It can't be doubted he's in astonishing form, but I'd be surprised if he did it here.

As someone has already pointed out, Tevez had a year and a half where he was clearly the main goal threat and he had one of the best records in world football. Once we got in some competition and the goals were spread around he returned to having a good strike rate.

The 50% ration is totally amazing (Aguero has scored around a quarter of our goals in comparison), and suggests he's either now up their with Messi and Ronaldo, or he's a superb player who has a team built around him. Rodgers has already said that he sold Carroll to build the team around Suarez, so I think the latter might be the case.

It might be an odd comparison but remember SWP scored 17 league goals in his last couple of seasons for us. Then just 4 in his three seasons at Chelsea. At City he was the main man, but at Chelsea just one of many.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Dameerto » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:45 pm

Original Dub wrote:So I guess aguero no longer has the title of best goals to minute ratio the premier league has ever seen?


It might depend on whether you were talking about just this season or for the whole of their time in England and the Prem.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby branny » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:59 pm

I think Suarez is more clinical but have never seen him score the type of goal that Kun did against spuds in the 5-1 or the goal he got at the chavs.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:15 pm

Dameerto wrote:
It might depend on whether you were talking about just this season or for the whole of their time in England and the Prem.


I'm talking about the best goals per minute ratio of any player in the premier league. Ever.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:20 pm

Original Dub wrote:
I'm talking about the best goals per minute ratio of any player in the premier league. Ever.


You're wearing your blue tinted specs now. There's no other reason you could like a city player.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:24 pm

branny wrote:I think Suarez is more clinical but have never seen him score the type of goal that Kun did against spuds in the 5-1 or the goal he got at the chavs.

I've never seen Aguero score goals like the ones Suarez got against Norwich...
Both wonderful players, but at the moment and last season also, Suarez has the edge.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:26 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
It might depend on whether you were talking about just this season or for the whole of their time in England and the Prem.


I'm talking about the best goals per minute ratio of any player in the premier league. Ever.

I don't know and don't know how to find out. Perhaps you could enlighten us with the up to date statistics.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
I'm talking about the best goals per minute ratio of any player in the premier league. Ever.


You're wearing your blue tinted specs now. There's no other reason you could like a city player.

HA!
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:07 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I don't know and don't know how to find out. Perhaps you could enlighten us with the up to date statistics.


Ok here goes:

Aguero has the greatest goals per minute ratio in the history of the premier league.

The end.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:12 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I've never seen Aguero score goals like the ones Suarez got against Norwich...
Both wonderful players, but at the moment and last season also, Suarez has the edge.


I've never seen Suarez score a goal like the one aguero did against liverpool last season.

You seem to latch on to oppo players, but you also seem to exaggerate their ability. I'm not saying suarez isn't top notch but he has to do it for a few years in a top league before he can be considered to be a better player than aguero.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:20 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I don't know and don't know how to find out. Perhaps you could enlighten us with the up to date statistics.


Ok here goes:

Aguero has the greatest goals per minute ratio in the history of the premier league.

The end.

Come on, you're better than that.
That's certainly a valid means of comparison but by no means does it mean Aguero is undoubtedly better and we should end the debate there.

Otherwise, there would never be a debate about two strikers. We would just look at their goals to minutes ratio.
Two seasons ago, Aguero was better, last season Suarez was, this season it's been more even, but Suarez has scored 6 more and assisted 2 more in fewer games.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:25 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I've never seen Aguero score goals like the ones Suarez got against Norwich...
Both wonderful players, but at the moment and last season also, Suarez has the edge.


I've never seen Suarez score a goal like the one aguero did against liverpool last season.

You seem to latch on to oppo players, but you also seem to exaggerate their ability. I'm not saying suarez isn't top notch but he has to do it for a few years in a top league before he can be considered to be a better player than aguero.

What's your point? They both score great goals.
Why?
So no matter what he does this season he can't be better? Even if he scored 50 goals he won't be better because 'he has to do it for a few seasons'?
Well he was better last season, and better this season than Aguero, how much longer does he have to do it for?
It's about the here and now and right now Suarez is the better player.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby branny » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:46 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I've never seen Aguero score goals like the ones Suarez got against Norwich...
Both wonderful players, but at the moment and last season also, Suarez has the edge.


I've seen Aguero score with shots from outside the box, just not as far out as Suarez' Norwich goals. :)
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:50 pm

can't separate them on ability
the fact that suarez has the win at all costs mentality sets them apart
sergio is too nice...
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:57 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:What's your point? They both score great goals.
Why?
So no matter what he does this season he can't be better? Even if he scored 50 goals he won't be better because 'he has to do it for a few seasons'?
Well he was better last season, and better this season than Aguero, how much longer does he have to do it for?
It's about the here and now and right now Suarez is the better player.


Yes that was my point. Because you made out that suarez scores goals that aguero can't. That's simply not true.

Aguero has played about 7 seasons in a top league and has earned the right to be spoken about in the same bracket as messi and Ronaldo.

There is no doubt that suarez is having the season of his life so far. And he had a very good season last year.

You have to earn it. I think there's every chance he will, but you need to stop calling everyone the third best player in the world.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:05 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:What's your point? They both score great goals.
Why?
So no matter what he does this season he can't be better? Even if he scored 50 goals he won't be better because 'he has to do it for a few seasons'?
Well he was better last season, and better this season than Aguero, how much longer does he have to do it for?
It's about the here and now and right now Suarez is the better player.


Yes that was my point. Because you made out that suarez scores goals that aguero can't. That's simply not true.

Aguero has played about 7 seasons in a top league and has earned the right to be spoken about in the same bracket as messi and Ronaldo.

There is no doubt that suarez is having the season of his life so far. And he had a very good season last year.

You have to earn it. I think there's every chance he will, but you need to stop calling everyone the third best player in the world.

Mine was purely a response to someone else saying suarez couldn't score the type of goals aguero can... I'm judging them on what they have done in the last couple of seasons. Not what they've done in the last 7 years altogether. Right now at this moment suarez is better.
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:07 pm

This is a depressing thread !
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:22 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mine was purely a response to someone else saying suarez couldn't score the type of goals aguero can... I'm judging them on what they have done in the last couple of seasons. Not what they've done in the last 7 years altogether. Right now at this moment suarez is better.


Better than bale?

Lol
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Re: the biting racist

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:23 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mine was purely a response to someone else saying suarez couldn't score the type of goals aguero can... I'm judging them on what they have done in the last couple of seasons. Not what they've done in the last 7 years altogether. Right now at this moment suarez is better.


Better than bale?

Lol

Possibly, but nowhere near rooney.
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