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[Cocacolajojo1]

Possibly, but nowhere near rooney.

He's a legend.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Mine was purely a response to someone else saying suarez couldn't score the type of goals aguero can... I'm judging them on what they have done in the last couple of seasons. Not what they've done in the last 7 years altogether. Right now at this moment suarez is better.

Better than bale?

Lol

This season, yes.
Lol.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Mine was purely a response to someone else saying suarez couldn't score the type of goals aguero can... I'm judging them on what they have done in the last couple of seasons. Not what they've done in the last 7 years altogether. Right now at this moment suarez is better.

Better than bale?

Lol

Possibly, but nowhere near rooney.

Nah he's been better than rooney this season. try harder.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

Nah he's been better than rooney this season. try harder.

Not a patch on Wellbeck though

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Nah he's been better than rooney this season. try harder.

Not a patch on Wellbeck though

Agreed.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Realised I perhaps got carried away in this debate.
Re Suarez v Aguero.
Aguero has definitely been the more consistent and steady player out of the two. With the exception of last season, Aguero has improved year on year and gradually become one of the greatest strikers in the world. He's very consistent, often delivers goals in big games and has been better than ever this season.

Suarez on the other hand before the past 18 months had always been a player who had so much potential and ability but was inconsistent and often flattered to deceive on the big occasions. I remember watching him when he first signed for Liverpool and you could tell he had bags of ability and some of the tricks and skills he pulled off then were special but then he's often go missing for many games and sulk and dive around when things weren't going his way. In the last two seasons and this one especially he's shown rapid improvement unlike Aguero's steady rise.

Suarez reminds me somewhat of Ronaldo, with Ronaldo you could tell he had bags of talent from the moment he signed for the Rags, but he was immature, dived, threw hissy fits and lacked the consisteny to be a real top player. Then all of a sudden he got himself together and in the space of a couple of seasons, everything just clicked for him and the rest as they say is history. Very similar imo to what is happening to Suarez, he has shown a marked improvement in his antics this season and has been a real team player.

This season he's been exceptional. His goal haul is frightening and he's shown an unselfishness in front of goal at times that I wish Aguero would show.
It's difficult to choose between the two but I just feel that Suarez has the natural ability to go and be as good as Ronaldo and Messi, whereas Aguero is just slightly behind. Not a dig at Aguero at all and I still feel he's the more consistent of the two.

Would I swap? As a City fan I couldn't, for that moment at QPR, he was etched into our history and it would feel wrong to swap him for anyone.

Hopefully though Suarez will end up at Real Madrid in the near future.

[Im From Manchester]

Realised I perhaps got carried away in this debate.
Re Suarez v Aguero.
Aguero has definitely been the more consistent and steady player out of the two. With the exception of last season, Aguero has improved year on year and gradually become one of the greatest strikers in the world. He's very consistent, often delivers goals in big games and has been better than ever this season.

Suarez on the other hand before the past 18 months had always been a player who had so much potential and ability but was inconsistent and often flattered to deceive on the big occasions. I remember watching him when he first signed for Liverpool and you could tell he had bags of ability and some of the tricks and skills he pulled off then were special but then he's often go missing for many games and sulk and dive around when things weren't going his way. In the last two seasons and this one especially he's shown rapid improvement unlike Aguero's steady rise.

Suarez reminds me somewhat of Ronaldo, with Ronaldo you could tell he had bags of talent from the moment he signed for the Rags, but he was immature, dived, threw hissy fits and lacked the consisteny to be a real top player. Then all of a sudden he got himself together and in the space of a couple of seasons, everything just clicked for him and the rest as they say is history. Very similar imo to what is happening to Suarez, he has shown a marked improvement in his antics this season and has been a real team player.

This season he's been exceptional. His goal haul is frightening and he's shown an unselfishness in front of goal at times that I wish Aguero would show.
It's difficult to choose between the two but I just feel that Suarez has the natural ability to go and be as good as Ronaldo and Messi, whereas Aguero is just slightly behind. Not a dig at Aguero at all and I still feel he's the more consistent of the two.

Would I swap? As a City fan I couldn't, for that moment at QPR, he was etched into our history and it would feel wrong to swap him for anyone.

Hopefully though Suarez will end up at Real Madrid in the near future.

I'd go with that description if Suarez was 22 but he will be 27 next month, so not really like Ronaldo, no!

To me, You're talking like someone who watches the great highlights of Suarez on MOTD and has swallowed the media 'love in' rather than someone who watches his overall contribution to a game, week in, week out. For overall contribution to a game, Aguero, even if he doesn't get on the scoresheet, rarely goes missing, Suarez on the other hand can be anonymous in games where he doesn't score.

Suarez is unproven at champions league level and has only started scoring in one of the top leagues in world football in the last two years, despite being older than Aguero by 18 months.

Aguero has scored far more important goals at critical times in games through sheer genius a la QPR, the Rags last season and Chelsea this. Show me how many similar critical goals Suarez has scored?

Don't get me wrong Suarez is looking top class this year (but still to do it against the top sides) but Aguero wins any head to head contest hands down for me.

[bigblue]

will be interesting to see if he still has the same motivation and performance level after signing his new mega-money contract

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Realised I perhaps got carried away in this debate.
Re Suarez v Aguero.
Aguero has definitely been the more consistent and steady player out of the two. With the exception of last season, Aguero has improved year on year and gradually become one of the greatest strikers in the world. He's very consistent, often delivers goals in big games and has been better than ever this season.

Suarez on the other hand before the past 18 months had always been a player who had so much potential and ability but was inconsistent and often flattered to deceive on the big occasions. I remember watching him when he first signed for Liverpool and you could tell he had bags of ability and some of the tricks and skills he pulled off then were special but then he's often go missing for many games and sulk and dive around when things weren't going his way. In the last two seasons and this one especially he's shown rapid improvement unlike Aguero's steady rise.

Suarez reminds me somewhat of Ronaldo, with Ronaldo you could tell he had bags of talent from the moment he signed for the Rags, but he was immature, dived, threw hissy fits and lacked the consisteny to be a real top player. Then all of a sudden he got himself together and in the space of a couple of seasons, everything just clicked for him and the rest as they say is history. Very similar imo to what is happening to Suarez, he has shown a marked improvement in his antics this season and has been a real team player.

This season he's been exceptional. His goal haul is frightening and he's shown an unselfishness in front of goal at times that I wish Aguero would show.
It's difficult to choose between the two but I just feel that Suarez has the natural ability to go and be as good as Ronaldo and Messi, whereas Aguero is just slightly behind. Not a dig at Aguero at all and I still feel he's the more consistent of the two.

Would I swap? As a City fan I couldn't, for that moment at QPR, he was etched into our history and it would feel wrong to swap him for anyone.

Hopefully though Suarez will end up at Real Madrid in the near future.

I'd go with that description if Suarez was 22 but he will be 27 next month, so not really like Ronaldo, no!

To me, You're talking like someone who watches the great highlights of Suarez on MOTD and has swallowed the media 'love in' rather than someone who watches his overall contribution to a game, week in, week out. For overall contribution to a game, Aguero, even if he doesn't get on the scoresheet, rarely goes missing, Suarez on the other hand can be anonymous in games where he doesn't score.

Suarez is unproven at champions league level and has only started scoring in one of the top leagues in world football in the last two years, despite being older than Aguero by 18 months.

Aguero has scored far more important goals at critical times in games through sheer genius a la QPR, the Rags last season and Chelsea this. Show me how many similar critical goals Suarez has scored?

Don't get me wrong Suarez is looking top class this year (but still to do it against the top sides) but Aguero wins any head to head contest hands down for me.

Age isn't that important though. Some players are late bloomers. For example Drogba was always a good player but he peaked in his early 30s where he became a truly world class player. Better at 34 then he was at 24.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

will be interesting to see if he still has the same motivation and performance level after signing his new mega-money contract

I doubt he'll be there next season if Liverpool don't qualify for the Champions League.

[Blue Since 76]

I doubt he'll be there next season.

Edited for correctness.

That deal looks to me like Liverpool making sure they get market value for him. Plus he gets £200k a week until summer and then Madrid is going to have to pay him big wages as well. Win win for all parties

[Herb]

Nice to note that we kept one of the 'best 3 strikers in the world' (as they say) under the cosh and out of the scoring today - and that doesn't help his stats for being unable to score against better opposition does it?
He is obviously very good when given the freedom to be very good but the main weight of his goals are against the weaker sides and he won't ever be even a world top 10 (in my opinion) until he can do the honours against the best . . and it was the best that he came up against today.

He'll be a great flat track bully in spain but will be a let down in the games that really matter is my prediction for what it's worth.

[Dronny]

Nice to note that we kept one of the 'best 3 strikers in the world' (as they say) under the cosh and out of the scoring today - and that doesn't help his stats for being unable to score against better opposition does it? He is obviously very good when given the freedom to be very good but the main weight of his goals are against the weaker sides and he won't ever be even a world top 10 (in my opinion) until he can do the honours against the best . . and it was the best that he came up against today. He'll be a great flat track bully in spain but will be a let down in the games that really matter is my prediction for what it's worth.

"We kept one of the best three strikers in the world under the cosh"????? Fuck off, I put him in my fantasy team and it's a well known fact that every fucker I put in my team turns to rat shit

Thank you

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Nice to note that we kept one of the 'best 3 strikers in the world' (as they say) under the cosh and out of the scoring today - and that doesn't help his stats for being unable to score against better opposition does it? He is obviously very good when given the freedom to be very good but the main weight of his goals are against the weaker sides and he won't ever be even a world top 10 (in my opinion) until he can do the honours against the best . . and it was the best that he came up against today. He'll be a great flat track bully in spain but will be a let down in the games that really matter is my prediction for what it's worth.

"We kept one of the best three strikers in the world under the cosh"????? Fuck off, I put him in my fantasy team and it's a well known fact that every fucker I put in my team turns to rat shit

Thank you

I did the same so between us it worked a treat.

[freshie]

"We kept one of the best three strikers in the world under the cosh"????? Fuck off, I put him in my fantasy team and it's a well known fact that every fucker I put in my team turns to rat shit Thank you

I forgot to change my team and left him as captain so I think I win this one ;)

[Herb]

"We kept one of the best three strikers in the world under the cosh"????? Fuck off, I put him in my fantasy team and it's a well known fact that every fucker I put in my team turns to rat shit

Thank you

Sorry Dronny mate - I'm daft, so no excuses, and wasn't aware of your power to gift rat shittedness upon players at will. I'm sorry for my silly mistake and I ask that you please be as kind as to take out the oppositions main man in all your future fantasy selections.

And thanks again

Herb


PS. S'pose this means that my lucky socks had nothing to do with our victory huh?

[Breks]

I forgot to change my team and left him as captain so I think I win this one ;)

Same here, my plan worked.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

"We kept one of the best three strikers in the world under the cosh"????? Fuck off, I put him in my fantasy team and it's a well known fact that every fucker I put in my team turns to rat shit Thank you

In that case pleas chose the following:

Terry, Oscar, Ozil, Rooney, Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard when fit, RVP if he ever recovers, Lukaku, Cech. If you have a Champions League option, please select the whole of the Barca team
In February.

If that bloke who is a Jonah at cup finals keeps away too we should be sound.

[Dronny]

In that case pleas chose the following: Terry, Oscar, Ozil, Rooney, Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard when fit, RVP if he ever recovers, Lukaku, Cech. If you have a Champions League option, please select the whole of the Barca team In February. If that bloke who is a Jonah at cup finals keeps away too we should be sound.

Duh, don't you know you can't have any rag scum in your FF team? ;-)

[Slim]

Played 3 games against top 4 opposition, zero goals.

Thank god he scored four against Norwich, not like sharing that around could give you a 7-0 result anyway.