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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:29 pm

He just scored his 50th goal for us and the all important one today. Cut him some slack!
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby ruralblue » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He just scored his 50th goal for us and the all important one today. Cut him some slack!


Thought wellbeck scored for you today???
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby mr_nool » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Best goal any striker can score is the winner in a tough 1 nil game. Well done Edin.

Didn't have a great game correct but some of the criticism he gets is way out of order. Near me he was getting screamed at for not getting to a ball or a cross when it was absolutely nowhere near him at all. Guess it's just the way it is for some players that they will be blamed even when he hasn't done anything wrong.I am sure some of the same fans were criticising Lescott today for poor passing !


I agree with Doug's voice of reason. Dzeko isn't as bad as some people want to make out - in fact he's just another fashionable boo-boy.

I do agree that at times his first touch can let him down, and that he doesn't apply him wept enough. However, he does score a truckload of goals, despite not being part of a well functioning partnership.

To me the Beast is fantastic when paired with Aguero. On his own he flatters to deceive. I really don't think his much more effective than Edin.

Why Dzeko/Aguero can't play well together is beyond me. Perhaps it's personal.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:40 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I'm sure I heard them say he had 9 goals from 14 starts (10 from 15 now). Not too shabby. Unlike others, I want my defenders to defend and my strikers to strike. He does that so no complaints from me.


I suppose I'm a little bit different from you Beefy in that I want to see us attack from all over the park.

This means I want my defenders to attack, midfielders to get into the box and score and strikers to be deadly (I also like seeing our defenders score their share of goals as well). If that means we ship a larger percentage of goals in doing so, then so be it.

However, in such a total footballing scenario, I don't think Dzeko has the necessary technical skills and ball playing ability to hold down a starting place in this type of side.

However, that's only my own opinion for what it's worth, or not.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Tesl » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:41 pm

Don't agree with that, I think the Beast looks far more dangerous than Dzeko even without Aguero.

Dzeko is the ultimate enigma and hard to explain. His positioning his excellent and he always finds himself in the right places, but his poor first touch lets him down a lot and its really frustrating to watch (which is why everyone seems to hate him). To be fair to him too his finishing is actually pretty good and pretty accurate, today his finish was really well taken.

He doesn't deserve the abuse he gets and I like him. If Jovetic ever gets fit I hope those two could make a really good 'secondary' strike partnership when rotating Aguero and Negredo. I don't really want to see him sold particularly.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby nottsblue » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:44 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I'm sure I heard them say he had 9 goals from 14 starts (10 from 15 now). Not too shabby. Unlike others, I want my defenders to defend and my strikers to strike. He does that so no complaints from me.


Correct beefy mate. A striker with his strike rate of goals per minutes on pitch is gold dust
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Cit.revenge » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:47 pm

ruralblue wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
I wonder how may of his goals were 'important' ones (I know all goals are important, but he tends to score game-changers for us quite regularly, either winners or goals that get us back into matches)


CIT DIF Revenge..... theres a little job for you here pal. Have a goosey gander and see when he's either come on to score a winning goal or a crucial goal thats turned the game around for us. Cheers

I don't care ,really , for me hes like not in club and i do not have opinion any more , hes crap ,hes great i don't care. If i wanna to be fan of this club i must ignore all about Dzeko even if i agree or not agree, right or wrong and from that moment i find some kind peace on this forum I can remember few from top of my head Blackburn CL goal, Nots County FA cup witch we win , Wigan 0 1 , Spurs 2 1 home Fulham 0 1 away when he come in , West Brom 2 goals win 2 1 yea and QPR , that is from last two season that stay in my head , but for me best move is pass to that goal against Arsenal when Aguero score in Cup .But great goal today against fucking Pulis team. I don't know how hes manage to make them in to Stoke in few weeks.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:48 pm

ruralblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He just scored his 50th goal for us and the all important one today. Cut him some slack!


Thought wellbeck scored for you today???

Welbeck * one l. Easy mistake to make.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby patrickblue » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:56 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Best goal any striker can score is the winner in a tough 1 nil game. Well done Edin.

Didn't have a great game correct but some of the criticism he gets is way out of order. Near me he was getting screamed at for not getting to a ball or a cross when it was absolutely nowhere near him at all. Guess it's just the way it is for some players that they will be blamed even when he hasn't done anything wrong.I am sure some of the same fans were criticising Lescott today for poor passing !


I agree with Doug's voice of reason. Dzeko isn't as bad as some people want to make out - in fact he's just another fashionable boo-boy.

I do agree that at times his first touch can let him down, and that he doesn't apply him wept enough. However, he does score a truckload of goals, despite not being part of a well functioning partnership.

To me the Beast is fantastic when paired with Aguero. On his own he flatters to deceive. I really don't think his much more effective than Edin.

Why Dzeko/Aguero can't play well together is beyond me. Perhaps it's personal.


I pretty much go with Doug on this too. The main problem for me is he never looks like he can be arsed.
I couldn't really understand the flak he got when he came on against scouse one. Thought he did a good job for us.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:04 pm

Brilliant striker. Gets a lot of shite on here but thankfully not from fans I've met in real life. When you can't moan at the media what can you do?
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:15 pm

Utter shite and the sooner he's shipped out and we buy a decent striker, the better. Yes, he scored, but the rest of his contribution was up there with Jovetic's.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:19 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I'm sure I heard them say he had 9 goals from 14 starts (10 from 15 now). Not too shabby. Unlike others, I want my defenders to defend and my strikers to strike. He does that so no complaints from me.


I suppose I'm a little bit different from you Beefy in that I want to see us attack from all over the park.

This means I want my defenders to attack, midfielders to get into the box and score and strikers to be deadly (I also like seeing our defenders score their share of goals as well). If that means we ship a larger percentage of goals in doing so, then so be it.

However, in such a total footballing scenario, I don't think Dzeko has the necessary technical skills and ball playing ability to hold down a starting place in this type of side.

However, that's only my own opinion for what it's worth, or not.

I don't have a problem with this view but in the context of this game, coming so close to other games and the fact that we are 2 strikers short, then I dont mind Edin being there and bagging.

I'm not so sure about the 'Total Football' tag though. Yes, we are an attacking force that many will have problems with but we are not yet at a stage where players actively take a position everywhere on the pitch. We still have horses for courses and with so many changes then I don't see anything wrong with a scrappy 1-0 win, even if it is against the likes of Palace.

One thing I noticed when Nagredo came on was that every touch seemed to bounce off him or every pass seemed to go astray. Now, I didn't see much in the way of criticism and rightly so, just as I don't see why we should berate another of our players for the same thing, especially with limited playing time. Dzeko scored the goal the goal that got us 3 points. Who can't be happy with that?
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby zuricity » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:22 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I don't have a problem with this view but in the context of this game, coming so close to other games and the fact that we are 2 strikers short, then I dont mind Edin being there and bagging.

I'm not so sure about the 'Total Football' tag though. Yes, we are an attacking force that many will have problems with but we are not yet at a stage where players actively take a position everywhere on the pitch. We still have horses for courses and with so many changes then I don't see anything wrong with a scrappy 1-0 win, even if it is against the likes of Palace.

One thing I noticed when Nagredo came on was that every touch seemed to bounce off him or every pass seemed to go astray. Now, I didn't see much in the way of criticism and rightly so, just as I don't see why we should berate another of our players for the same thing, especially with limited playing time. Dzeko scored the goal the goal that got us 3 points. Who can't be happy with that?


Ah ! But Negrado is Spanish and therefore untouchable.

An absolutely embarrasing thread.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:25 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I'm sure I heard them say he had 9 goals from 14 starts (10 from 15 now). Not too shabby. Unlike others, I want my defenders to defend and my strikers to strike. He does that so no complaints from me.


I suppose I'm a little bit different from you Beefy in that I want to see us attack from all over the park.

This means I want my defenders to attack, midfielders to get into the box and score and strikers to be deadly (I also like seeing our defenders score their share of goals as well). If that means we ship a larger percentage of goals in doing so, then so be it.

However, in such a total footballing scenario, I don't think Dzeko has the necessary technical skills and ball playing ability to hold down a starting place in this type of side.

However, that's only my own opinion for what it's worth, or not.

I don't have a problem with this view but in the context of this game, coming so close to other games and the fact that we are 2 strikers short, then I dont mind Edin being there and bagging.

I'm not so sure about the 'Total Football' tag though. Yes, we are an attacking force that many will have problems with but we are not yet at a stage where players actively take a position everywhere on the pitch. We still have horses for courses and with so many changes then I don't see anything wrong with a scrappy 1-0 win, even if it is against the likes of Palace.

One thing I noticed when Nagredo came on was that every touch seemed to bounce off him or every pass seemed to go astray. Now, I didn't see much in the way of criticism and rightly so, just as I don't see why we should berate another of our players for the same thing, especially with limited playing time. Dzeko scored the goal the goal that got us 3 points. Who can't be happy with that?
superb post beefy.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby aaron bond » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:31 pm

zuricity wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I don't have a problem with this view but in the context of this game, coming so close to other games and the fact that we are 2 strikers short, then I dont mind Edin being there and bagging.

I'm not so sure about the 'Total Football' tag though. Yes, we are an attacking force that many will have problems with but we are not yet at a stage where players actively take a position everywhere on the pitch. We still have horses for courses and with so many changes then I don't see anything wrong with a scrappy 1-0 win, even if it is against the likes of Palace.

One thing I noticed when Nagredo came on was that every touch seemed to bounce off him or every pass seemed to go astray. Now, I didn't see much in the way of criticism and rightly so, just as I don't see why we should berate another of our players for the same thing, especially with limited playing time. Dzeko scored the goal the goal that got us 3 points. Who can't be happy with that?


Ah ! But Negrado is Spanish and therefore untouchable.

An absolutely embarrasing thread.


Why is it an embarrassing thread? The majority of the posts in it give Edin credit for his goal scoring rate and are questioning why he gets so much abuse.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby london blue 2 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:53 pm

aaron bond wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I don't have a problem with this view but in the context of this game, coming so close to other games and the fact that we are 2 strikers short, then I dont mind Edin being there and bagging.

I'm not so sure about the 'Total Football' tag though. Yes, we are an attacking force that many will have problems with but we are not yet at a stage where players actively take a position everywhere on the pitch. We still have horses for courses and with so many changes then I don't see anything wrong with a scrappy 1-0 win, even if it is against the likes of Palace.

One thing I noticed when Nagredo came on was that every touch seemed to bounce off him or every pass seemed to go astray. Now, I didn't see much in the way of criticism and rightly so, just as I don't see why we should berate another of our players for the same thing, especially with limited playing time. Dzeko scored the goal the goal that got us 3 points. Who can't be happy with that?


Ah ! But Negrado is Spanish and therefore untouchable.

An absolutely embarrasing thread.


Why is it an embarrassing thread? The majority of the posts in it give Edin credit for his goal scoring rate and are questioning why he gets so much abuse.

Including the OP. lol, someone didn't read the thread.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:59 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:Utter shite and the sooner he's shipped out and we buy a decent striker, the better. Yes, he scored, but the rest of his contribution was up there with Jovetic's.



If we ship him out please name a better player we might get who would be happy as a 3rd in line striker? (not that Edin is made up at being that)
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Nick » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:00 pm

but can someone just tell him to put more effort in?

when you are trying to displace negredo and aguero by barely breaking sweat when the whole team plays a pressing game, is it any wonder people give him shit?
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby hartfordsheartbeat » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:07 pm

I think most fans would be more than willing to forgive his inadequacys if he put in a wee bit more effort. He's less suited to our system than either Kun or Negredo. That isn't going to change sadly. If he leaves in the summer(as seems likely) years from now his contribution will be appreciated more. There's a few more important ones in him before then I'd wager.
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Re: Dzeko - 50th goal

Postby Breks » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:08 pm

He is weak for a big guy, his touch is shite, he's lazy and he is slow. However he does score goals. Not fit to lace the beasts boots. He makes me so mad.
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