Dzeko - 50th goal

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Which player has assisted ( passed the ball that led to a goal for Zuri ;) )most of his 50 goals? Yes you guessed it, it's none other than Aguero with 7 assists ( passes that led to goals for Zuri ;) ).

Well perhaps Kun could even supply more instead of being so selfish. Like Silva was in the first half on Saturday . My point is not with Kun, but the fact that other players opted for Kun and Carlos, often it seemed when Edin had an easier route to goal
Perhaps you could enlighten us and also tell us how many 'assists' Edin has for Kun .

Sorry mate, I was addressing Dubai, I was just being mischievous referring to you regarding the "assists", no offence intended. The info I got on assists for Dzeko came from a graphic on the OS http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... nfographic

I don't have the same info for Kun's goals but I can tell you that Dzeko has 22 assists in all comps since he joined.

[Mase]

yes, a 95th min winner necessitated by the 35th min sitter he blasted into row z, by the 59th min 1 on 1 that he fluffed due to a shocking first touch, and the 72nd min ball across the 6 that he would have gotten to if he wasn't camped outside the 18.

Let's not pretend he'll be starting. Either way, if he gets the winner I'll suck him dry!

On another note, Negers misses far more sitters in my opinion.

[blue-nova]

I feel he's a little hard done to with all the lazy comments. As far as goal scorers go, he's one of the best at either being in the right place, or seeing an opportunity to shoot. His goal ratio is important (although slightly flattered by being a sub playing against tired teams), and as is often noted he tends to score a lot away from home, which is unusual.

His main problem at City is that he's just not as good at close control/possession as the players around him. There aren't many players who do match up to Aguero, Nasri, Silva, Toure etc. when it comes to keeping hold of the ball in tight situations, and I don't think any amount of practice will bring him up to their level. Judging him by their standards is very harsh.

He's in many ways a more direct player - even when he's in possession, if he's too far away from goal, he tends to look immediately for the nearest creative player, pass the ball backwards to them and quickly turns and heads for the box. The problem is that he'd be quite happy to continually feed of the half chances of more direct balls, but around him are players who don't mind waiting a couple of minutes if it means controlling possession and the possibility of setting up an easier chance.

He offers us variety in our approach, but most importantly he scores goals away from the Etihad - this is unusual for any striker (he scored more away than at home when he was at Wolfsberg too) and is hugely useful. Since Aguero joined the team Dzeko has scored more league goals away from home than Sergio. That's pretty impressive by anyone's standards.

The solution sadly isn't obvious - he's undoubtedly not the player we need when we're playing short passing possession football, but the more direct approach, and the goal record, particularly away from home, is not something we'd easily be able to replace.

[Ted Hughes]

yes, a 95th min winner necessitated by the 35th min sitter he blasted into row z, by the 59th min 1 on 1 that he fluffed due to a shocking first touch, and the 72nd min ball across the 6 that he would have gotten to if he wasn't camped outside the 18.

Let's not pretend he'll be starting. Either way, if he gets the winner I'll suck him dry!

On another note, Negers misses far more sitters in my opinion.

I think you're right.

He's just a much better player though.

[Ted Hughes]

I feel he's a little hard done to with all the lazy comments. As far as goal scorers go, he's one of the best at either being in the right place, or seeing an opportunity to shoot. His goal ratio is important (although slightly flattered by being a sub playing against tired teams), and as is often noted he tends to score a lot away from home, which is unusual.

His main problem at City is that he's just not as good at close control/possession as the players around him. There aren't many players who do match up to Aguero, Nasri, Silva, Toure etc. when it comes to keeping hold of the ball in tight situations, and I don't think any amount of practice will bring him up to their level. Judging him by their standards is very harsh.

He's in many ways a more direct player - even when he's in possession, if he's too far away from goal, he tends to look immediately for the nearest creative player, pass the ball backwards to them and quickly turns and heads for the box. The problem is that he'd be quite happy to continually feed of the half chances of more direct balls, but around him are players who don't mind waiting a couple of minutes if it means controlling possession and the possibility of setting up an easier chance.

He offers us variety in our approach, but most importantly he scores goals away from the Etihad - this is unusual for any striker (he scored more away than at home when he was at Wolfsberg too) and is hugely useful. Since Aguero joined the team Dzeko has scored more league goals away from home than Sergio. That's pretty impressive by anyone's standards.

The solution sadly isn't obvious - he's undoubtedly not the player we need when we're playing short passing possession football, but the more direct approach, and the goal record, particularly away from home, is not something we'd easily be able to replace.

The Count mixes it up a lot more than Mancini though & allows us to hit some direct balls & also to cross the ball.

The crosses were there on Saturday & he should watch some videos of where the ball is going & look at his position & consider if he is easy to find in the box. Imo he sometimes makes it close to impossible for a winger to get the ball to him, in fact sometimes playing like a 2nd striker, waiting to pick up scraps from a centre forward distracting defenders, rather than a centre forward inviting a cross to come in for him to attack.

[zuricity]

Sorry mate, I was addressing Dubai, I was just being mischievous referring to you regarding the "assists", no offence intended. The info I got on assists for Dzeko came from a graphic on the OS http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... nfographic

I don't have the same info for Kun's goals but I can tell you that Dzeko has 22 assists in all comps since he joined.

Water off a ducks back. Yes i figured you were refering to the silly word 'Assist' .... o deary me ! Figured is the amercan way too isn't it.

[Dubaimancityfan]

I agree that they could set Dzeko up for more goals, & should do, but personally I think that the reason they don't, is that they don't rate him as highly as a player, as they rate each other. He isn't the players' first choice as striker either.

Part of that is down to his attitude I think.

If the Goat can see it, then other players can see it. It's not just fans seeing something which isn't there.

For the record, I don't have a criticism of his attitude in recent games, I think he's done ok & will be a real asset in the 2nd half of the season if he keeps it up. He will miss some, as he did Saturday, but he will score plenty. But I do think that a fully fit Guidetti would have scored goals in these games, so there is another potential problem for Edin if Guidetti does start to look the part; he is exactly the kind of 'heart & soul' player fans love. Best for Edin if Guidetti goes out on loan imo.

Ted, I like Edin and don't understand all the personal hate he gets from some. We wouldn't have won the league if he hadn't scored the equaliser before Kun scored the winner but even that is not enough for some as he apparently missed a sitter sometime during that match !!
I agree with much of the criticism that he gets as he can certainly do better but bottom line is he has been effective for us and has scored some very important goals and 3 of those were very recent in the Cup and League !
If the elusive Guidetti and the phantom ever play for us and prove to be as good as some think they are, then I will be the first to ask for Edin to be shifted out. Until then he is our best 3rd striker (currently 2nd!) and I for one am happy to have him.

[Tim777]

From the OS:

"With the January transfer window open in a matter of hours, Manuel Pellegrini knows he will have 31 days of fielding speculative questions on who may be arriving – or leaving his squad.
One player the Blues’ boss insists he won’t be selling is Edin Dzeko, who scored a landmark 50th goal for City in
Saturday’s 1-0 win over Crystal Palace .
Andy Hampson, writing in The Independent says : “Next year will be a big one for Dzeko, a £27million signing from Wolfsburg in 2011, with Bosnia competing in the World Cup for the first time in the summer.
“That has led to speculation he might seek more regular
first-team football elsewhere but Pellegrini stresses he
needs the 27-year-old as City seek silverware on multiple fronts.
“Pellegrini said: ‘There was never any chance of Dzeko going in January. He is a very important player for the team.
‘If you look at the last month I think Dzeko was one of the players that played the most minutes in December.
‘He has continued to a very important player for us. Always a player wants to play every game but it is impossible with the amount of games that we have to play.’”
You’d like to think that puts that particular story to bed –
but don’t be surprised if it continually resurfaces over the next month..."

[MilnersJaw]

He might have a good minute to goal ratio but the amount of sitters he misses or chances fucks up because of his dodgy football its unreal.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

He might have a good minute to goal ratio but the amount of sitters he misses or chances fucks up because of his dodgy football its unreal.

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

[Wonderwall]

He might have a good minute to goal ratio but the amount of sitters he misses or chances fucks up because of his dodgy football its unreal.

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Its not just about the Goals though, its about all round team play and contribution and effort. You will see Negredo work hard, have a good work rate at trying to close down play and win the ball back when we do not have possession, Dzeko most of the time will wait for us to get the ball back for him before he breaks out of "Jog Mode".

[Bridge'srightfoot]

He might have a good minute to goal ratio but the amount of sitters he misses or chances fucks up because of his dodgy football its unreal.

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Its not just about the Goals though, its about all round team play and contribution and effort. You will see Negredo work hard, have a good work rate at trying to close down play and win the ball back when we do not have possession, Dzeko most of the time will wait for us to get the ball back for him before he breaks out of "Jog Mode".

He could wok harder you're right. However, the criticism he gets is over the top. Milners Jaw said he should score more and misses a lot of good chances. He does indeed miss a lot of chances but so does Negredo and so does Aguero. Probably as many as he does.

Edin's work rate does need to improve but all our strikers have areas of their game where they need to improve. Aguero needs to pass more, Negredo needs to start scoring away from home, Jovetic needs to get on the pitch.

But it seems our fans need a boo boy for some bizarre reason. First it was Kolarov but now he's playing well, attentions have been turned to Dzeko.

There is something quite telling though. This is a thread about a player who has just scored his 50th goal for us, many of them important goals for us, including one of the most important goals in our history against QPR. How many people have said 'well done Edin for 50 goals'. Not many. The majority of posts are leaning towards criticizing him.

With Aguero injured and no sign that Jovetic is real, we will really need Edin this season.

[Ted Hughes]

He might have a good minute to goal ratio but the amount of sitters he misses or chances fucks up because of his dodgy football its unreal.

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Its not just about the Goals though, its about all round team play and contribution and effort. You will see Negredo work hard, have a good work rate at trying to close down play and win the ball back when we do not have possession, Dzeko most of the time will wait for us to get the ball back for him before he breaks out of "Jog Mode".

He could wok harder you're right. However, the criticism he gets is over the top. Milners Jaw said he should score more and misses a lot of good chances. He does indeed miss a lot of chances but so does Negredo and so does Aguero. Probably as many as he does.

Edin's work rate does need to improve but all our strikers have areas of their game where they need to improve. Aguero needs to pass more, Negredo needs to start scoring away from home, Jovetic needs to get on the pitch.

But it seems our fans need a boo boy for some bizarre reason. First it was Kolarov but now he's playing well, attentions have been turned to Dzeko.

There is something quite telling though. This is a thread about a player who has just scored his 50th goal for us, many of them important goals for us, including one of the most important goals in our history against QPR. How many people have said 'well done Edin for 50 goals'. Not many. The majority of posts are leaning towards criticizing him.

With Aguero injured and no sign that Jovetic is real, we will really need Edin this season.

I think he will have a good 2nd half to the season.

The excuse that the team 'doesn't play to his strengths' is no longer valid (if it ever truly was) because we now cross the ball & we also play balls over the top & through defences from distance, so it's upto him to score from them. He will do but he'll also miss, as will Negredo, but he should get bucketfuls in this team.

He has been working harder in recent times too, but clearly, he is simply not as good, as strong, as skillful, or as clever as Negredo when used as a target man. So if we play a game where we need an out ball (like we did v Bayern at home) we need to be sure we use Negredo. Dzeko, in that role, in those circumstances, will let us down, in the same way that Yaya will let us down if we ask him to pick up runners from midfield.

Both players are very similar imo, in that they are huge assets & huge liabilities at the same time. Yaya gets away with stuff Dzeko doesn't. We need to use both where they are effective, but not rely on them in other areas as they will let us down.

[City64]

Going onto another tangent .......

Dzeko simply wont get as much QUALITY service to score the goals he does at any other potential club than Man City . He would soon cut a frustrated figure then ....... he cant have it both ways !

[MilnersJaw]

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Are we talking about Neggers? No so stop bringing him up. If dzeko worked and contributed as much as Neggers then he wouldn't get the stick he does. He doesn't though, so if all he can do is score and nothing else, he shouldn't be missing all these sitters a blind 18 stone fast food worked could score.

[mr_nool]

Are we talking about Neggers? No so stop bringing him up. If dzeko worked and contributed as much as Neggers then he wouldn't get the stick he does.

Fantastic.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Are we talking about Neggers? No so stop bringing him up. If dzeko worked and contributed as much as Neggers then he wouldn't get the stick he does. He doesn't though, so if all he can do is score and nothing else, he shouldn't be missing all these sitters a blind 18 stone fast food worked could score.

Well you must think the same about Negredo because he misses as many chances as Edin.

By all means say Negredo is a better team player and works harder, but he is no more clinical in front of goal than Edin and you shouldn't beat Dzeko with the 'he misses tons of chances' stick when both Aguero and Negredo miss as many.
Also Dzeko scores BIG goals. When we most need a goal he's so often the striker who gets it. Something like 33 of his 50 goals for us have been to take the lead or level the scores.
There isn't a better 3rd choice striker in the league. His scoring record for us is fantastic.
Why can't we just be happy that we have 3 top strikers?
Sometimes people say we've become a tad spoilt and we shout them down for claiming it. But when we are slating one of our most prolific strikers, who's scored 50 goals for us at the top level it just gives them ammunition.

[john@staustell]

Thought Dzeko had a good all-round game yesterday. Both mis-controlled in the 6-yard box but............

[carl_feedthegoat]

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Are we talking about Neggers? No so stop bringing him up. If dzeko worked and contributed as much as Neggers then he wouldn't get the stick he does. He doesn't though, so if all he can do is score and nothing else, he shouldn't be missing all these sitters a blind 18 stone fast food worked could score.

Well you must think the same about Negredo because he misses as many chances as Edin.

By all means say Negredo is a better team player and works harder, but he is no more clinical in front of goal than Edin and you shouldn't beat Dzeko with the 'he misses tons of chances' stick when both Aguero and Negredo miss as many.
Also Dzeko scores BIG goals. When we most need a goal he's so often the striker who gets it. Something like 33 of his 50 goals for us have been to take the lead or level the scores.
There isn't a better 3rd choice striker in the league. His scoring record for us is fantastic.
Why can't we just be happy that we have 3 top strikers.

Sometimes people say we've become a tad spoilt and we shout them down for claiming it. But when we are slating one of our most prolific strikers, who's scored 50 goals for us at the top level it just gives them ammunition.

You are quite right , I only get guilty of slagging him off in match threads...but there again I slag off anyone on match day..part and parcel of being a highly strung fan......

Dzeko does what he is paid to do.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Negredo misses just as many chances as Edin. Edin is a goalscorer. He doesn't look pretty or smooth but the guy scores goals. The stick our fans give a player who's scored so many important goals for us is outrageous.

Are we talking about Neggers? No so stop bringing him up. If dzeko worked and contributed as much as Neggers then he wouldn't get the stick he does. He doesn't though, so if all he can do is score and nothing else, he shouldn't be missing all these sitters a blind 18 stone fast food worked could score.

Well you must think the same about Negredo because he misses as many chances as Edin.

By all means say Negredo is a better team player and works harder, but he is no more clinical in front of goal than Edin and you shouldn't beat Dzeko with the 'he misses tons of chances' stick when both Aguero and Negredo miss as many.
Also Dzeko scores BIG goals. When we most need a goal he's so often the striker who gets it. Something like 33 of his 50 goals for us have been to take the lead or level the scores.
There isn't a better 3rd choice striker in the league. His scoring record for us is fantastic.
Why can't we just be happy that we have 3 top strikers.

Sometimes people say we've become a tad spoilt and we shout them down for claiming it. But when we are slating one of our most prolific strikers, who's scored 50 goals for us at the top level it just gives them ammunition.

You are quite right , I only get guilty of slagging him off in match threads...but there again I slag off anyone on match day..part and parcel of being a highly strung fan......

Dzeko does what he is paid to do.

I'd argue he's our most natural goalscorer. He's always in the right position. People think he's lucky or not good because he gets a lot of simple goals but fail to recognise his excellent positioning and awareness.

He's not world class but as you say he does what he's paid to do.