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Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby aaron bond » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:23 am

The Deloitte Football Money League has just been published for 2014 and further good news for us - we've moved above Chelsea and Arsenal now! Big growth for PSG who move up to 5th, also Bayern jump into 3rd place.

1 - Real Madrid
2 - Barcelona
3 - Bayern Munich
4 - United
5 - PSG
6 - CITY
7 - Chelsea
8 - Arsenal
9 - Juventus
10 - AC Milan
11 - Borussia Dortmund
12 - Liverpool
13 - Schalke
14 - Spurs
15 - Inter
16 - Galatasaray
17 - Hamburg
18 - Fenerbache
19 - Roma
20 - Atletico Madrid

Full report click here: http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... _to_dfml13
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby dazby » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:47 am

I am in such a good mood today. Rags hearts get broken, City buy the Heart, and we are pumping more blood than ever!
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby aaron bond » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:52 am

Quick summary on City:
- Revenue up to 316.2m Euros vs. 285.6m Euros last year (up 11%)
- In 6th place overall vs. 7th place last year (have overtaken Chelsea and Arsenal, but PSG have overtaken us)
- 53% of our revenue is from commercial deals, 32% from broadcasting and 15% from matchday
- Our matchday revenue (46.2m Euros) is low compared to our rivals (Real - 119m, Barca - 118m, Bayern - 87m, United - 127m, Chelsea - 82m, Arsenal 108m)
- But our commercial revenue (166.9m Euros) dwarfs Chelsea (98m) and Arsenal (73m) and is catching up to others (Real - 212m, Barca - 177m, Bayern - 237m, United - 178m, PSG - 255m)
- Our broadcasting revenue should increase significantly next year with the new Premier League TV deal kicking in, plus we've progressed to the knockout stages of the CL (and will hopefully go all the way!).

Other key points:
- Total revenue for the top 20 clubs at 5.4 billion Euros (up 8% vs. last year)
- United drop to 4th with Bayern moving up to 3rd
- PSG recorded the highest ever commercial revenue with 255m Euros, and they have moved from 10th to 5th place.
- Liverpool drop out of the top 10 for the first time.
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Bleed_Blue » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:52 am

dazby wrote:I am in such a good mood today. Rags hearts get broken, City buy the Heart, and we are pumping more blood than ever!


That's for 12/13, before count started kicking ass. Next year we would be 4th at the least
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Slim » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:02 am

Only way the rags are getting in the top 4 any time soon.
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:39 am

Anybody see anything dodgy with PSG's figures, where commercial revenue is biggest in world football? Take that Platini
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Socrates » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:06 am

They are going to HAVE to look at PSG for FFP. No doubt about it. Us on the other hand, we look very safe from all threats - FFP and any breakaway superleague. Would make no financial sense to exclude us from a breakaway league now...
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Benjay » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:14 am

Socrates wrote:They are going to HAVE to look at PSG for FFP. No doubt about it. Us on the other hand, we look very safe from all threats - FFP and any breakaway superleague. Would make no financial sense to exclude us from a breakaway league now...


And Monaco for that matter. How they will achieve FFP with their stadium...
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:26 am

Benjay wrote:
And Monaco for that matter. How they will achieve FFP with their stadium...


I imagine the season tickets are quite expensive and god knows how much a pie would be.
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby john@staustell » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:27 am

This wont copy very well as it's a funny programme, but here is the link to the whole report (click on the red shirt 'view full report', then the City section summary as best as it will copy:

http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/i ... _to_dfml13

6. Manchester City
Manchester City: Revenue profile (€m)
Manchester City’s rise up the Money League continues
in 2012/13, climbing one place to sixth; the highest the
club has achieved and notably seeing them move ahead
of their Premier League rivals Chelsea and Arsenal. In the
five years since Sheikh Mansour’s takeover early in the
2008/09 season, turnover has more than tripled from
£87m (€102.2m) to £271m (€316.2m), with 17%
growth in the year 2012/13.
The overall revenue increase is driven largely by a growth
in commercial revenue as the club expand into new
markets and seek to develop its brand internationally. The
agreement with Etihad Airways is the centre piece of the
club’s commercial success. The airline will sponsor the
new 80-acre training complex being constructed in East
Manchester, alongside their shirt and stadium
sponsorship. In addition, 2012/13 saw the club agree
deals in previously unexplored markets; for example with
an Indonesian energy drink, Extra Joss, emphasising the
growing global profile of Manchester City.
As a mark of how far Manchester City have travelled,
2012/13 was considered a disappointing season on the
pitch. They failed to qualify from the group stages of the
Champions League and finished runners up in both the
Premier League and the FA Cup. Having replaced
Roberto Mancini with Manuel Pellegrini as team
manager at the end of the 2012/13 campaign, the
Citizens have already seen an improvement in their
European form in 2013/14. City have qualified for the
knockout stages of the Champions League which will
increase their broadcast revenue from UEFA distributions
in next year’s Money League from the €28.8m in
2012/13. This coupled with the impact of the
new Premier League broadcast deal will see City’s
broadcast revenue increase considerably in next year’s
Money League.
City’s ability to generate matchday revenue has
traditionally lagged behind that of the other Premier
League clubs in the Money League top ten. However,
recently, plans have been announced to increase the
capacity of the Etihad Stadium by around 12,000 giving
the opportunity to dedicate more seating areas to
corporate hospitality, but also to offer fans a guaranteed
lower season ticket price in the newly constructed areas.
The club has opened a waiting list for fans to secure a
season ticket for those new seats. Matchday revenue did
increase in 2012/13 (12%) after season ticket and
general admission prices rose for supporters.
However, the club does still boast the cheapest season
ticket available in the Premier League.
It will be a tough challenge for Manchester City to break
into the Money League top five and achieving this will
need the club to further improve upon its impressive
commercial growth and on-pitch performance.
€316.2m
(£271m)
2012 Revenue €285.6m (£231.1m)
2012 Position (7)
1 Manchester United
2 Manchester City
3 Chelsea
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham Hotspur
2012/13 Domestic
league position
119m (£102m)
188.3m (£161.4m)
211.6m (£181.3m)
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:31 am

Socrates wrote:They are going to HAVE to look at PSG for FFP. No doubt about it. Us on the other hand, we look very safe from all threats - FFP and any breakaway superleague. Would make no financial sense to exclude us from a breakaway league now...


Real and Barca are in trouble over recent deals and FFP may come into play if the real value of their spending is proven. I suspect they will cry foul over PSG as soon as UEFA asks a question.

This is the test - either FFP is real and had teeth or it's dead in the water. However, Qatar has a world cup coming and knows how it got it - who's going to be brave enough to challenge PSG?
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby aaron bond » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:37 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Socrates wrote:They are going to HAVE to look at PSG for FFP. No doubt about it. Us on the other hand, we look very safe from all threats - FFP and any breakaway superleague. Would make no financial sense to exclude us from a breakaway league now...


Real and Barca are in trouble over recent deals and FFP may come into play if the real value of their spending is proven. I suspect they will cry foul over PSG as soon as UEFA asks a question.

This is the test - either FFP is real and had teeth or it's dead in the water. However, Qatar has a world cup coming and knows how it got it - who's going to be brave enough to challenge PSG?


PSG's big move up the money league definitely puts the spotlight on them, but as you have said, whether UEFA are willing to challenge them or not is another thing.

With our considered efforts to comply with FFP, our losses reducing each year and the massive investment in our youth set-up and infrastructure, it's increasingly unlikely we'll be the target of this now...well, at least I hope so!
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Clowncrete » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:00 pm

Things are looking bright right now. I have some questions though:

When does the new TV deal come in to effect and how much (more) money does it give annually to each club? And how much more money will our CL wins so far give us more compared to last year?
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby john@staustell » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:35 am

Clowncrete wrote:Things are looking bright right now. I have some questions though:

When does the new TV deal come in to effect and how much (more) money does it give annually to each club? And how much more money will our CL wins so far give us more compared to last year?


The new UK Tv deal is now in force and will come into the figures for June 2014 - about an extra 40M a club isn't it? Or more for the top ones. Not sure about CL.

Obviously all English clubs will go up with TV money but at City we also have the alleged 40M wage reduction during the summer and all those little Tom Glick deals - I really think we'll shock everyone with our increase next year - you can feel the global profile surging!
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Mark Garrett » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:37 pm

Encouraging turnover increase news.

Slightly odd though that the financial results have still not been released by City. Usually they do this by the middle of December each year. Almost at end of January and still nothing.
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2009-10 League..................Pld 21 - W 11 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 40 - GA 18 - Pts 38...Finished 5th
2010-11 League..................Pld 38 - W 21 - D 8 - L 9 - GF 60 - GA 33 - Pts 71...Finished 3rd..FA Cup Winners
2011-12 League..................Pld 38 - W 28 - D 5 - L 5 - GF 93 - GA 29 - Pts 89...Finished 1st..League Champions
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Socrates » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:15 pm

Mark Garrett wrote:Encouraging turnover increase news.

Slightly odd though that the financial results have still not been released by City. Usually they do this by the middle of December each year. Almost at end of January and still nothing.


Not usual at all for them to be released December, last year was an exception. Can't remember why now but was something to do with pre-empting UEFA.
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Dameerto » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:23 pm

Am I right in thinking we're under no obligation to release them publicly in theory?
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Socrates » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:58 pm

Dameerto wrote:Am I right in thinking we're under no obligation to release them publicly in theory?


They are a matter of public record once lodged at Companies House.
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Re: Deloitte Football Money League 2014

Postby Dameerto » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:03 pm

Ah right.
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