Garcia vs Demi

[Invisible Man Fan]

As much as it pains me to say this, I would much rather have had Garcia in the DM role last night.

I've been one of his biggest critics, but he would have done a much better job.

I know Demi used to do it at Bayern, but he doesn't have the physical ability anymore.

I know Garcia was injured, but never have I wanted to see him in a City shirt as much as I did last night

[Goaters 103]

Milner would be superior to either of them in cent midf, in a deep role. Sadly he rarely gets a look in.

[Cit.revenge]

I take all bad what i say for Garcia ever , Demi last night wtf was that. And why u have Milner and Rodwell on bench if u can't bring them. Garcia on place where Demi play last night hes better 10 times then Demi and i could not see that before last night , he is slow but hes much much better and not that bad at all to replace Ferna.And no matter how much Milner was not ready he could give him at list last 15 min take Demi out ant try to press lose 1 0 or 2 0 so what, and i just can't get that . I saw in first 10 min that Demi is hole and not just that hole who have no even simple pass like Garcia.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

[Cit.revenge]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

Mate u need to watch game again what ferna do is covering for Yaya and recive ball to open him or somebody else if Yaya is cover . Demi just could not do anything of that and look where he was as DM when we Ivanović score

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

When Hazard was making him look stupid you thought that was ok?

Have a look at their goal again and watch what the cunt does or rather what he doesn't do.

On the ball he's better than Garcia but off it he's a complete liability in that position, he left our defence completely exposed, Garcia at least some protection.

[Ted Hughes]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

He did do ok but had far too much work to do, as did Yaya. It's a load of people looking for a reason why we had our pants pulled down in midfield & picking the easy target.

He recieved too little help from the younger, fitter, faster players & the forwards who were outrun by their Chelsea counterparts.

If you had put Luiz & Ramierez next to him, he could have done his job without breaking sweat.

If Milner had tried to do the same job in that lineup, with the rest of the team playing as they were, he would have been eaten alive.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

He did do ok but had far too much work to do, as did Yaya. It's a load of people looking for a reason why we had our pants pulled down in midfield & picking the easy target.

He recieved too little help from the younger, fitter, faster players & the forwards who were outrun by their Chelsea counterparts.

If you had put Luiz & Ramierez next to him, he could have done his job without breaking sweat.

If Milner had tried to do the same job in that lineup, with the rest of the team playing as they were, he would have been eaten alive.

Spot on. Demech did ok last night within the limitations he has of minimal pace. Garcia would have been exactly the same.Fernandinho is clearly streets ahead of anyone else we have for that role but even he wouldn't have stopped what was happening if left effectively on his own.Milner or Rodwell might have done better but I am not sure.Chelsea were just perfectly organised and set up to play City and they executed their plan perfectly.

Watching them target Yaya at times and gang up on him was fascinating but it was the way they set up with 2 very very competent and mobile holding midfield players that was the key to their game.They sat in position and just allowed their 4 players to run riot with their great energy,skill and mobility.

We lost to the better team who were better organised but we had some chances.I hear Matic stifled Silva and never gave him a kick and I would agree Matic was very very good.But it's also true that Silva had 2 great chances to score as he found great positions in the box.You simply have to take chances that fall in games against teams like Chelsea.We didn't and their right back lashed in an unstoppable left footer!

One of the things Pellegrini has done well for me this season is learn lessons.He learned about playing away in the premiership but it took 3 bad defeats to get there.He has learned that 2 up top isn't always the way to go against some teams.He though he could do it last night but he was wrong imo.Maybe he can do it if one of them is Aguero but not when it's Edin and Negredo and especially against 2 top centre backs.They were completely ineffective last night and I expect lessons to be learned .

[Ted Hughes]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

He did do ok but had far too much work to do, as did Yaya. It's a load of people looking for a reason why we had our pants pulled down in midfield & picking the easy target.

He recieved too little help from the younger, fitter, faster players & the forwards who were outrun by their Chelsea counterparts.

If you had put Luiz & Ramierez next to him, he could have done his job without breaking sweat.

If Milner had tried to do the same job in that lineup, with the rest of the team playing as they were, he would have been eaten alive.

Spot on. Demech did ok last night within the limitations he has of minimal pace. Garcia would have been exactly the same.Fernandinho is clearly streets ahead of anyone else we have for that role but even he wouldn't have stopped what was happening if left effectively on his own.Milner or Rodwell might have done better but I am not sure.Chelsea were just perfectly organised and set up to play City and they executed their plan perfectly.

Watching them target Yaya at times and gang up on him was fascinating but it was the way they set up with 2 very very competent and mobile holding midfield players that was the key to their game.They sat in position and just allowed their 4 players to run riot with their great energy,skill and mobility.

We lost to the better team who were better organised but we had some chances.I hear Matic stifled Silva and never gave him a kick and I would agree Matic was very very good.But it's also true that Silva had 2 great chances to score as he found great positions in the box.You simply have to take chances that fall in games against teams like Chelsea.We didn't and their right back lashed in an unstoppable left footer!

One of the things Pellegrini has done well for me this season is learn lessons.He learned about playing away in the premiership but it took 3 bad defeats to get there.He has learned that 2 up top isn't always the way to go against some teams.He though he could do it last night but he was wrong imo.Maybe he can do it if one of them is Aguero but not when it's Edin and Negredo and especially against 2 top centre backs.They were completely ineffective last night and I expect lessons to be learned .

Milner couldn't have lived with Chelsea imo because of Nastasic. Demichelis had to do his job as well as that of def mid. Milner simply can't win headers v people like Luiz etc.

Imo, the key to this kind of football is all 11 players working very hard. Silva, Dzeko, Negredo didn't close down the space as avidly or as quickly as Chelsea's attackers did. Yaya tried to but can't. We had the same problem in the home leg v Bayern, where Aguero/Dzeko even got a slagging for it from Muller afterwards, but not in the away leg.

[MilnersJaw]

Time for Milner to move on. While should not start every game he is too good to waste on a bench when Garcia and demi are preferred to him in midfield.

[blue-nova]

Spot on. Demech did ok last night within the limitations he has of minimal pace. Garcia would have been exactly the same.Fernandinho is clearly streets ahead of anyone else we have for that role but even he wouldn't have stopped what was happening if left effectively on his own.Milner or Rodwell might have done better but I am not sure.Chelsea were just perfectly organised and set up to play City and they executed their plan perfectly.

Watching them target Yaya at times and gang up on him was fascinating but it was the way they set up with 2 very very competent and mobile holding midfield players that was the key to their game.They sat in position and just allowed their 4 players to run riot with their great energy,skill and mobility.

We lost to the better team who were better organised but we had some chances.I hear Matic stifled Silva and never gave him a kick and I would agree Matic was very very good.But it's also true that Silva had 2 great chances to score as he found great positions in the box.You simply have to take chances that fall in games against teams like Chelsea.We didn't and their right back lashed in an unstoppable left footer!

One of the things Pellegrini has done well for me this season is learn lessons.He learned about playing away in the premiership but it took 3 bad defeats to get there.He has learned that 2 up top isn't always the way to go against some teams.He though he could do it last night but he was wrong imo.Maybe he can do it if one of them is Aguero but not when it's Edin and Negredo and especially against 2 top centre backs.They were completely ineffective last night and I expect lessons to be learned .

It's a good point about Silva - Both games against Chelsea were close and with a little luck could have been two wins for us instead.

Jovetic totally showed up Dzeko and Negredo last night. In most games this season they've been encouraged to stay high up the pitch as we dominate with attacking numbers, but tonight they should have realised that Chelsea were good enough and motivated enough to take us on. This game was important, and they should have been pressing Chelsea all over the pitch.

[Ted Hughes]

Time for Milner to move on. While should not start every game he is too good to waste on a bench when Garcia and demi are preferred to him in midfield.

Pretty sure Milner would have got on if he was deemed fit enough, possibly even started in place of Navas.

[lets all have a disco]

Positioning for the goal.

All the defenders grouped leaving a massive space and our 'defensive' midfielder bottom of the picture.

Eto'o would have knocked any rebound in.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I honestly thought Demi did ok. Must just be me.

He did do ok but had far too much work to do, as did Yaya. It's a load of people looking for a reason why we had our pants pulled down in midfield & picking the easy target.

He recieved too little help from the younger, fitter, faster players & the forwards who were outrun by their Chelsea counterparts.

If you had put Luiz & Ramierez next to him, he could have done his job without breaking sweat.

If Milner had tried to do the same job in that lineup, with the rest of the team playing as they were, he would have been eaten alive.

Spot on. Demech did ok last night within the limitations he has of minimal pace. Garcia would have been exactly the same.Fernandinho is clearly streets ahead of anyone else we have for that role but even he wouldn't have stopped what was happening if left effectively on his own.Milner or Rodwell might have done better but I am not sure.Chelsea were just perfectly organised and set up to play City and they executed their plan perfectly.

Watching them target Yaya at times and gang up on him was fascinating but it was the way they set up with 2 very very competent and mobile holding midfield players that was the key to their game.They sat in position and just allowed their 4 players to run riot with their great energy,skill and mobility.

We lost to the better team who were better organised but we had some chances.I hear Matic stifled Silva and never gave him a kick and I would agree Matic was very very good.But it's also true that Silva had 2 great chances to score as he found great positions in the box.You simply have to take chances that fall in games against teams like Chelsea.We didn't and their right back lashed in an unstoppable left footer!

One of the things Pellegrini has done well for me this season is learn lessons.He learned about playing away in the premiership but it took 3 bad defeats to get there.He has learned that 2 up top isn't always the way to go against some teams.He though he could do it last night but he was wrong imo.Maybe he can do it if one of them is Aguero but not when it's Edin and Negredo and especially against 2 top centre backs.They were completely ineffective last night and I expect lessons to be learned .

Disagree re Garcia, he wouldn't have dived in half as much as Demi does, he uses his frame as a shield either forcing players to go wide or knock it by him where a centre back can step up and nick the ball. Hazard was having a field day because he knew every time he dropped his shoulder Demi would try nick it and this made it easy for him to get away from him. Hazard played him like a chump.

[Ted Hughes]

Positioning for the goal.

All the defenders grouped leaving a massive space and our 'defensive' midfielder bottom of the picture.

Eto'o would have knocked any rebound in.

If you swap Yaya for Demichelis, not a cat in hell's chance of that being a goal, or them getting a shot off in the buildup.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Positioning for the goal.

All the defenders grouped leaving a massive space and our 'defensive' midfielder bottom of the picture.

Eto'o would have knocked any rebound in.

If you swap Yaya for Demichelis, not a cat in hell's chance of that being a goal, or them getting a shot off in the buildup.

If Demichelis had at least tried to recover his position then we wouldn't have been in a situation where they had two players lined up on the edge of our area waiting to pull the trigger. He just stood in the right back position having been made look a chump again by Hazard out on the sideline. Yes Yaya is lazy at recovering ground but fuck me that from Demichelis was on a whole different planet of laziness.

[Ted Hughes]

Positioning for the goal.

All the defenders grouped leaving a massive space and our 'defensive' midfielder bottom of the picture.

Eto'o would have knocked any rebound in.

If you swap Yaya for Demichelis, not a cat in hell's chance of that being a goal, or them getting a shot off in the buildup.

If Demichelis had at least tried to recover his position then we wouldn't have been in a situation where they had two players lined up on the edge of our area waiting to pull the trigger. He just stood in the right back position having been made look a chump again by Hazard out on the sideline. Yes Yaya is lazy at recovering ground but fuck me that from Demichelis was on a whole different planet of laziness.

Look, if Eto gets a tap in THEN Demichelis can be questioned for not getting in position to cover, but not for the goal. That's Yaya's job & he switched off, twice.

The reason Demi won't be covering Eto, will be because he is fucked, because he is having to do too much running around the pitch.

Neither Garcia nor Gareth Barry nor even Fernandinho can cover that much space.

To suggest Demichelis was lazy in that game is fucking ridiculous.

[zabbadabbado]

I am not going to be a hypocrite,i didn't like Garcia,I thought he was far to slow and too one dimensional.But over the last few weeks he has shown considerable improvement,and i come to see what Pellegrini now sees in him,He does break up play very effectively and his passing is pretty decent,short and accurate,Just sitting behind the defense.

As for Demichelis,the man is a liability with his lunging tackles.

Why not play Vinny in that role and put Demichelis at center back ?,he played this role at Hamburg,and he is a better option in that role than the aging Demichelis.For me it was ludicrous playing him there last night.

[Ted Hughes]

Incidentally, when we are talking about Hazard making a chump out of people, why is Zabaleta allowed to get away with that performance ?

He was wank. If that had been Richards we would never hear the last of it. Hazard was beating Zabba in the air ffs.

[Ted Hughes]

I am not going to be a hypocrite,i didn't like Garcia,I thought he was far to slow and too one dimensional.But over the last few weeks he has shown considerable improvement,and i come to see what Pellegrini now sees in him,He does break up play very effectively and his passing is pretty decent,short and accurate,Just sitting behind the defense.

As for Demichelis,the man is a liability with his lunging tackles.

Why not play Vinny in that role and put Demichelis at center back ?,he played this role at Hamburg,and he is a better option in that role than the aging Demichelis.For me it was ludicrous playing him there last night.

I'm just so fucking glad Pellegrini didn't do that.