Fernandinho One Injury Too Many.

[zabbadabbado]

I was thinking the problem was 3 injuries.

As much as Navas is a good player, he's not Nasri, just not on the same level. Aguero instead of Dzeko and we score, of that I have no doubt and Fred instead of Demi, who I think was unfairly singled out last night playing 3 against 2 against a very good midfield. However, he doesn't have the engine Fred does and that sort of 100% energy is half the reason we've done as well dominating midfields in which we've been outnumbered.

However, we are in the business of the bigger picture now, we draw a line through this one and move on. Next game to worry about and Arsenal will fall away in the coming weeks leaving it to us and Chelsea to decide who wins the league.

If we want to single out anyone last night and I am not sure it's productive, but Pellegrini really needs a viable plan B. I think that's his weakness and a 4-5-1 is not the anti-christ of football and could have been used effectively against a counter attacking side like the one we faced last night.

As you have said moving on we need to tinker and not panic, fine margins the big games they coming thick and fast, every team has problems, Barca looked like a team ready to concede every time Valencia had the ball, we are a team who will repsond, I just think this defeat might mean another defeat in the Cup to them, as we have Barca a few days later and they have a free week. Which will have a wankfest going on around the media.

Surely Pellers has to break his duck against this cunt ?.

[Ted Hughes]

I was thinking the problem was 3 injuries.

As much as Navas is a good player, he's not Nasri, just not on the same level. Aguero instead of Dzeko and we score, of that I have no doubt and Fred instead of Demi, who I think was unfairly singled out last night playing 3 against 2 against a very good midfield. However, he doesn't have the engine Fred does and that sort of 100% energy is half the reason we've done as well dominating midfields in which we've been outnumbered.

However, we are in the business of the bigger picture now, we draw a line through this one and move on. Next game to worry about and Arsenal will fall away in the coming weeks leaving it to us and Chelsea to decide who wins the league.

If we want to single out anyone last night and I am not sure it's productive, but Pellegrini really needs a viable plan B. I think that's his weakness and a 4-5-1 is not the anti-christ of football and could have been used effectively against a counter attacking side like the one we faced last night.

I thought we should have gone for the 4-5-1,given how shit Dzeko and Negredo look when paired together.They just don't compliment each other the way Aguero and Negredo do.Plus whats the point in playing 2 front men for the full 90 minutes when it was obvious at half time we were being over run in midfield and they were getting no service at all.Nnobody would criticise him if he had persevered for 45 minutes before making changes.

It would have to be an attacking 4-5-1 if we were to create anything at home v Chelsea, so effectively, eithr Dzeko or Negredo would have been replaced by an attacking mid.

Who would Pellegrini have used ?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I was thinking the problem was 3 injuries.

As much as Navas is a good player, he's not Nasri, just not on the same level. Aguero instead of Dzeko and we score, of that I have no doubt and Fred instead of Demi, who I think was unfairly singled out last night playing 3 against 2 against a very good midfield. However, he doesn't have the engine Fred does and that sort of 100% energy is half the reason we've done as well dominating midfields in which we've been outnumbered.

However, we are in the business of the bigger picture now, we draw a line through this one and move on. Next game to worry about and Arsenal will fall away in the coming weeks leaving it to us and Chelsea to decide who wins the league.

If we want to single out anyone last night and I am not sure it's productive, but Pellegrini really needs a viable plan B. I think that's his weakness and a 4-5-1 is not the anti-christ of football and could have been used effectively against a counter attacking side like the one we faced last night.

I thought we should have gone for the 4-5-1,given how shit Dzeko and Negredo look when paired together.They just don't compliment each other the way Aguero and Negredo do.Plus whats the point in playing 2 front men for the full 90 minutes when it was obvious at half time we were being over run in midfield and they were getting no service at all.Nnobody would criticise him if he had persevered for 45 minutes before making changes.

It would have to be an attacking 4-5-1 if we were to create anything at home v Chelsea, so effectively, eithr Dzeko or Negredo would have been replaced by an attacking mid.

Who would Pellegrini have used ?

Jovetic on the left? At least that would've stopped Ivanovic having all that space down that side.

[Wonderwall]

I was thinking the problem was 3 injuries.

As much as Navas is a good player, he's not Nasri, just not on the same level. Aguero instead of Dzeko and we score, of that I have no doubt and Fred instead of Demi, who I think was unfairly singled out last night playing 3 against 2 against a very good midfield. However, he doesn't have the engine Fred does and that sort of 100% energy is half the reason we've done as well dominating midfields in which we've been outnumbered.

However, we are in the business of the bigger picture now, we draw a line through this one and move on. Next game to worry about and Arsenal will fall away in the coming weeks leaving it to us and Chelsea to decide who wins the league.

If we want to single out anyone last night and I am not sure it's productive, but Pellegrini really needs a viable plan B. I think that's his weakness and a 4-5-1 is not the anti-christ of football and could have been used effectively against a counter attacking side like the one we faced last night.

I thought we should have gone for the 4-5-1,given how shit Dzeko and Negredo look when paired together.They just don't compliment each other the way Aguero and Negredo do.Plus whats the point in playing 2 front men for the full 90 minutes when it was obvious at half time we were being over run in midfield and they were getting no service at all.Nnobody would criticise him if he had persevered for 45 minutes before making changes.

It would have to be an attacking 4-5-1 if we were to create anything at home v Chelsea, so effectively, eithr Dzeko or Negredo would have been replaced by an attacking mid.

Who would Pellegrini have used ?

Jovetic on the left? At least that would've stopped Ivanovic having all that space down that side.

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I was thinking the problem was 3 injuries.

As much as Navas is a good player, he's not Nasri, just not on the same level. Aguero instead of Dzeko and we score, of that I have no doubt and Fred instead of Demi, who I think was unfairly singled out last night playing 3 against 2 against a very good midfield. However, he doesn't have the engine Fred does and that sort of 100% energy is half the reason we've done as well dominating midfields in which we've been outnumbered.

However, we are in the business of the bigger picture now, we draw a line through this one and move on. Next game to worry about and Arsenal will fall away in the coming weeks leaving it to us and Chelsea to decide who wins the league.

If we want to single out anyone last night and I am not sure it's productive, but Pellegrini really needs a viable plan B. I think that's his weakness and a 4-5-1 is not the anti-christ of football and could have been used effectively against a counter attacking side like the one we faced last night.

I thought we should have gone for the 4-5-1,given how shit Dzeko and Negredo look when paired together.They just don't compliment each other the way Aguero and Negredo do.Plus whats the point in playing 2 front men for the full 90 minutes when it was obvious at half time we were being over run in midfield and they were getting no service at all.Nnobody would criticise him if he had persevered for 45 minutes before making changes.

It would have to be an attacking 4-5-1 if we were to create anything at home v Chelsea, so effectively, eithr Dzeko or Negredo would have been replaced by an attacking mid.

Who would Pellegrini have used ?

Jovetic on the left? At least that would've stopped Ivanovic having all that space down that side.

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

Absolutely but that was a non runner with Milner's lack of fitness.

[Wonderwall]

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

Absolutely but that was a non runner with Milner's lack of fitness.

I really hate it when coaches come out with stupid statements saying they didnt bring them on because they didnt want to risk them as they are only just coming back from injury. If they cannot be risked, then dont put them on the bench, I dont see the point of it... what was he there for, to get Jose to think of what options we have on our bench??

Why wasnt Clichy brought on and Kolarov pushed further up?, we did have options but he messed up IMO

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

Absolutely but that was a non runner with Milner's lack of fitness.

I really hate it when coaches come out with stupid statements saying they didnt bring them on because they didnt want to risk them as they are only just coming back from injury. If they cannot be risked, then dont put them on the bench, I dont see the point of it... what was he there for, to get Jose to think of what options we have on our bench??

Why wasnt Clichy brought on and Kolarov pushed further up?, we did have options but he messed up IMO

I think he had Milner on the bench just in case of emergency, if someone got crocked he could step in. That's the only logical explanation I can think of.

[Ted Hughes]

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

Absolutely but that was a non runner with Milner's lack of fitness.

I really hate it when coaches come out with stupid statements saying they didnt bring them on because they didnt want to risk them as they are only just coming back from injury. If they cannot be risked, then dont put them on the bench, I dont see the point of it... what was he there for, to get Jose to think of what options we have on our bench??

Why wasnt Clichy brought on and Kolarov pushed further up?, we did have options but he messed up IMO

I think he had Milner on the bench just in case of emergency, if someone got crocked he could step in. That's the only logical explanation I can think of.

And for Clichy to come on, someone else has to go off. Take off an attacker for a fullback when a goal down ? Which one ?

[Wonderwall]

Was crying out for Milner on the left and Silva more central pulling the strings and linking the play

Absolutely but that was a non runner with Milner's lack of fitness.

I really hate it when coaches come out with stupid statements saying they didnt bring them on because they didnt want to risk them as they are only just coming back from injury. If they cannot be risked, then dont put them on the bench, I dont see the point of it... what was he there for, to get Jose to think of what options we have on our bench??

Why wasnt Clichy brought on and Kolarov pushed further up?, we did have options but he messed up IMO

I think he had Milner on the bench just in case of emergency, if someone got crocked he could step in. That's the only logical explanation I can think of.

And for Clichy to come on, someone else has to go off. Take off an attacker for a fullback when a goal down ? Which one ?

worked against watford

[Ted Hughes]

worked against watford

Watford was Kompany for Rodwell, Jovetic for Lopes, & Zabba for Richards.

Clichy would have had to replace: Yaya, Dzeko, Navas, Silva or Jovetic.

[Tru_Blu]

Any true footballer knows that Fernandihno was the big miss for the game but to second guess the man in charge about his decisions is just plain ignorant. Milner this Lescott that, we are two points behind the leaders and all of a sudden the guy does not know what he is doing. If Milner stayed on the bench it because the man decided that was the right move. Move on people we are still fighting for four trophies and no we don't have a divine right to any of them even if we are God's team.

[Wonderwall]

worked against watford

Watford was Kompany for Rodwell, Jovetic for Lopes, & Zabba for Richards.

Clichy would have had to replace: Yaya, Dzeko, Navas, Silva or Jovetic.

He should have come on instead of Jovetic with Jovetic coming on for Demichelis later on if it didnt work to try and force the game

[Ted Hughes]

worked against watford

Watford was Kompany for Rodwell, Jovetic for Lopes, & Zabba for Richards.

Clichy would have had to replace: Yaya, Dzeko, Navas, Silva or Jovetic.

He should have come on instead of Jovetic with Jovetic coming on for Demichelis later on if it didnt work to try and force the game

I recon if he'd brought on Clichy instead of Jovetic, people would have gone apeshit.

Bringing on Jovetic was a good substitution.

[PeterParker]

Did the OS posted anything regarding his injury?

[patrickblue]

I think the injury to Fernandinho could be one too many.

I think we are going to struggle over the next month missing such a vital cog in our wheel. i don't see how we can carry on with this 4-4-2 in the big games with such an influential player missing for 4 weeks. Our frailties were brutally exposed last night for all to see. Midfield wise were forced to field Demichelis in the holding midfielder role, it says something that Pellegrini prefers an aging player who was blowing out of his arse after just 20 minutes over Millner and Rodwell.I don't buy this crap he was protecting Millner because he was returning from injury, he has had no qualms before throwing players like Aguero and Negredo obviously still in pain straight in to the mix.For me he simply doesn't rate either off these players, not even fielding them as substitutes late on was very telling, and then throwing Yay Ya up front to try salvage a point said it all.We only used one substitute in a game we lost

Bayern and Chelsea has shown we can be beat by flooding the midfield. The manager has said he will carry on with this system, in my opinion that is naive. I predict we carry on with this 4-4-2 with no flexibility and our current injury problems then our season could unfold dramatically over the coming weeks.

I am not buying in to this media wankfest over Chelsea, they were not that good. We were set up wrong from the start by Pellegrini and just shite.We play like that against Norwich we would struggle. I hope to God we don't go for Demichelis pairing Ya Ya at home to Barcelona or we will be murdered.

Don't understand why we didn't reinforce in January if the manager doesn't rate Milner and Rodwell, because now we are in the shit with Fernandinho injured.

Don't agree at all. It was certainly one injury too many last night, but this is where I disagree. We were playing the only other prem team on our level and they played a blinder. That isn't going to happen every week. The wankfest is only coming from the same pundits who were saying we were the best team in the world last week.

[Wonderwall]

Did the OS posted anything regarding his injury?

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... conference

[PeterParker]

Did the OS posted anything regarding his injury?

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/20 ... conference

Cheers mate.

That means he is out in the second game too.

[getdressedmctavish]

In this instance, I think Pellers excuses don't ring true. Milner is a walking fitness freak...don't tell me two weeks out was gonna mean his puff was gone. Jovetic played 30 easily so he must have had 60 in him. No, I think its fair and square a case of the count being wedded to 442 whatever. But events might have proved him right, Dave two awful misses and we still nearly nicked it at the death. In the end however we were outplayed, but remember, that doesn't in itself necessarily worry the Count like it does a lot of managers. Now if he doesn't play Milner alongside Ya Ya next game I will start to worry what's going on. And Dzeko's timid statuesque performance surely signalled enough is enough this summer.

[bigblue]

I really hope it's not that long. In a little over 1/2 a season he's become one of my favorite City players and is invaluable to our high tempo/quick attacking style. I really want to see him play in the WC, and to do so he needs to put in a few big performances in trophy deciding games.