Wonderwall wrote:
Shame he sent that email as I think he would still be in a role with City now, maybe not the spokesperson as we seem to be the ultimate professional PR machine nowadays. However, I hope we continue to treat him with the fondness he deserves.
Cocacolajojo wrote:With this article we might perhaps finally be able to get Thakshin out of our system. There is still the odd fan saying that "he got us sold to the sheikh and I'll always be grateful for that". No he didn't, Cookie did. Thakshin put us in financial dire straits, used money saved by the previous owners and then had to borrow money from him anyway and if it hadn't been for Cookie we'd be in deep shit.
gary james wrote:On Thaksin... still not as straightforward as good v evil I'm afraid. Thaksin had some great ideas (and some ridiculous ones too!) and did bring Garry in to make them happen - Garry then realised that the only way out of the mire was to sell the club and the rest is history. Let's not forget that the FA/PL were happy that Thaksin was a fit and proper person (hmm!) and that those that controlled the majority of shares pre-Thaksin did believe that he was the right man to sell to and therefore to take the club forward.
Worth also noting in all of this that Garry's point on convincing Thaksin to sell is significant - although many believe Thaksin was only in it for the short term, Thaksin did not originally see it like that. I was in his presentations when he talked about his long term vision for City (not as significant as it became when GC arrived but significantly better than what had gone before).
My gut feel from what I saw and the interviews from that period I performed with Wardle, Khaldoon etc. is that Thaksin assumed it would be easy to find success at City and that that would then generate a good income for him (let's not forget that ultimately MCFC has to make a profit for its current owner - whether we like it or not that's the way football is now). Once his funds were locked and he was struggling to raise a few quid for himself, never mind the club, Garry recognised the issues and convinced him to sell before it went under.
It makes you wonder what would have happened had either Garry not arrived or Thaksin's funds had not been frozen. Phew!
gary james wrote:On Thaksin... still not as straightforward as good v evil I'm afraid. Thaksin had some great ideas (and some ridiculous ones too!) and did bring Garry in to make them happen - Garry then realised that the only way out of the mire was to sell the club and the rest is history. Let's not forget that the FA/PL were happy that Thaksin was a fit and proper person (hmm!) and that those that controlled the majority of shares pre-Thaksin did believe that he was the right man to sell to and therefore to take the club forward.
Worth also noting in all of this that Garry's point on convincing Thaksin to sell is significant - although many believe Thaksin was only in it for the short term, Thaksin did not originally see it like that. I was in his presentations when he talked about his long term vision for City (not as significant as it became when GC arrived but significantly better than what had gone before).
My gut feel from what I saw and the interviews from that period I performed with Wardle, Khaldoon etc. is that Thaksin assumed it would be easy to find success at City and that that would then generate a good income for him (let's not forget that ultimately MCFC has to make a profit for its current owner - whether we like it or not that's the way football is now). Once his funds were locked and he was struggling to raise a few quid for himself, never mind the club, Garry recognised the issues and convinced him to sell before it went under.
It makes you wonder what would have happened had either Garry not arrived or Thaksin's funds had not been frozen. Phew!
gary james wrote:On Thaksin... still not as straightforward as good v evil I'm afraid. Thaksin had some great ideas (and some ridiculous ones too!) and did bring Garry in to make them happen - Garry then realised that the only way out of the mire was to sell the club and the rest is history. Let's not forget that the FA/PL were happy that Thaksin was a fit and proper person (hmm!) and that those that controlled the majority of shares pre-Thaksin did believe that he was the right man to sell to and therefore to take the club forward.
Worth also noting in all of this that Garry's point on convincing Thaksin to sell is significant - although many believe Thaksin was only in it for the short term, Thaksin did not originally see it like that. I was in his presentations when he talked about his long term vision for City (not as significant as it became when GC arrived but significantly better than what had gone before).
My gut feel from what I saw and the interviews from that period I performed with Wardle, Khaldoon etc. is that Thaksin assumed it would be easy to find success at City and that that would then generate a good income for him (let's not forget that ultimately MCFC has to make a profit for its current owner - whether we like it or not that's the way football is now). Once his funds were locked and he was struggling to raise a few quid for himself, never mind the club, Garry recognised the issues and convinced him to sell before it went under.
It makes you wonder what would have happened had either Garry not arrived or Thaksin's funds had not been frozen. Phew!
Cocacolajojo wrote:I remember one anecdote from Hans Backe who said that him, Sven-Göran and Thakshin attended a CL-game at the Emirates and after the game was over and they were heading out of the suite, Thakshin got animated and started gesturing for them to come back and watch the field as the game was continuing. Turns out it was the unused subs who were destressing after the game.
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