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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:08 pm

bigblue wrote:

But I really don't know why I typed this out for you since you may be the most mentally handicapped person on this board.


I read all that wondering why you were bothering & then saw that you'd realised as well.

I don't see why we pay these people such high salaries when we could just get anyone off the street and they'd do it just as well. I mean, who couldn't lead the Air Jordan brand or head up UFC?
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby JamieMCFC » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:27 pm

Dubciteh wrote:I don't like Cooke, I think his treatment of Richard Dunne is the reason


Not surprised by this. But it was time for Dunne to move on.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:05 pm

bigblue wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Look at all the stuff that happened on his watch.
The world is full of people who get shit done.
Cookie was on his way down when he came to us,we should be aiming for people who are gonna peak with us.


What happened on his watch?

Such as realizing that our owner was about to have their assets frozen, effectively completely fucking the club. What did he do? He met with some of the richest people in the world and sold them on the vision of what Manchester CITY could be. He beat all the other PL clubs trying to court the same people and more or less saved our club. From there he only signed most of our current star players. Plus, he seemed to sacrifice his family for our club.

He may have misspoke in the media, but the only fuckwits who care about that are people like you. I don't care what he says in public as long as the deals get signed in private. Luckily the people we have now seem to be able to handle both, but I still think Gary would have signed one or both of the Porto players.

Finally, it's not just "being good at spending other people's money". You talk so much shit it's unreal. If you've ever worked with a large organization's business development, M&A, or procurement departments you'd know there a hell of a lot more that goes on that just signing the check. Negotiations where everyone wants to carve out their own piece, different people stalling or negotiating in bad faith, lawyers from both sides delaying the deal, trying to convince shareholding 3rd parties who have no interest to go along with the deal to do so, executives sticking their nose in it for no reason at all after the deal is 95% done..... Basically "just spending other people's money" is .01% of the job. There is a reason why people in certain positions get paid so well; because they can cut through everyone's bullshit, align everyone's interests, and get shit done.

But I really don't know why I typed this out for you since you may be the most mentally handicapped person on this board (including PALUS/clit.revenge).


Fuck me another head stuck his arse genius(run of the mill on here).Erm Mr Cook oversaw the Caicedo shambles along with letting Kaka go for less money than the Sheikh authorised him to offer.After the Nedum gaff no wonder he got sacked,but hey he did not buy me pint so must not know him.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby frankswift » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:05 pm

bb, you might be right that Cook was instrumental in getting City to where they are now. But maybe not. The lads from Abu Dhabi would have cut through the marketing bullshit to get precisely what they wanted. And they got it. If Cook believes that he was "selling a dream to Sheikh Mansour", as the estimable rag the Daily Mirror puts it, I reckon he's kidding himself. If he wants to take the credit for it all, it's not surprising, it's what marketing people do. Fair enough. But I think that if the sheikh valued him more, then he'd not have let him go if there had been any doubt as to whether he'd sent the email to Dr Onuoha.

Had he sent the email then it was a shithouse thing to do. Had he not have sent it the club should have been able to find out who did. Nedum Onuoha is one of us, a Hulme lad who supports City. How would we have felt if he'd have emailed something about Danny's illness? But even if Nedum wasn't one of us, the email was out of order.

To slap it on thicker, I think that anyone who blames their job for the collapse of their marriage is a massive tosser. He either knew it was on the rocks, in which case he valued his job more than his family, the dickhead, or he didn't, in which case he was a self-centred knobhead who didn't notice the important stuff. IMHO.

But mostly I was impelled to criticise him due to the delicate fragrant cloud of love wafting his way from this topic which, as a manc, I found a bit nauseating. Thank goodness bigblue restored the equilibrium with those splendid accusations of mental illness.

Also, I guess I'm a bit of a shithouse and the ugly prick just got on my tits.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby bigblue » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:37 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Fuck me another head stuck his arse genius(run of the mill on here).Erm Mr Cook oversaw the Caicedo shambles along with letting Kaka go for less money than the Sheikh authorised him to offer.


Who gives a fuck about Caicedo when he's signing Aguero, Yaya, and Silva!?!?!?

You're thinking smaal time while cookie is 10 steps ahead of you. Get your head out of your ass, though I suspect they're one in the same

frankswift wrote:bb, you might be right that Cook was instrumental in getting City to where they are now. But maybe not. The lads from Abu Dhabi would have cut through the marketing bullshit to get precisely what they wanted. And they got it. If Cook believes that he was "selling a dream to Sheikh Mansour", as the estimable rag the Daily Mirror puts it, I reckon he's kidding himself. If he wants to take the credit for it all, it's not surprising, it's what marketing people do. Fair enough.


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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:04 pm

bigblue wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Fuck me another head stuck his arse genius(run of the mill on here).Erm Mr Cook oversaw the Caicedo shambles along with letting Kaka go for less money than the Sheikh authorised him to offer.


Who gives a fuck about Caicedo when he's signing Aguero, Yaya, and Silva!?!?!?

You're thinking smaal time while cookie is 10 steps ahead of you. Get your head out of your ass, though I suspect they're one in the same

frankswift wrote:bb, you might be right that Cook was instrumental in getting City to where they are now. But maybe not. The lads from Abu Dhabi would have cut through the marketing bullshit to get precisely what they wanted. And they got it. If Cook believes that he was "selling a dream to Sheikh Mansour", as the estimable rag the Daily Mirror puts it, I reckon he's kidding himself. If he wants to take the credit for it all, it's not surprising, it's what marketing people do. Fair enough.


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When it's not your own money then behaving like billy big balls is easy I suppose.
Could you please tell me though as your so enlightened and probably the most intelligent egghead on here why Mr Cook appears nowhere in any list of top performing CEOs.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby bigblue » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:19 pm

Rag_hater wrote:When it's not your own money then behaving like billy big balls is easy I suppose.


How is that any different that working for any corporation? If you're the VP of Marketing Nike or Pepsi in charge of a $10 billion advertising budget (company money, not your own), it is easy figure out where to allocate the money because it's not your own??

And were you really suggesting earlier that he should have offered MORE than 100 million for Kaka just because he had the budget to do so???

Rag_hater wrote:Could you please tell me though as your so enlightened and probably the most intelligent egghead on here why Mr Cook appears nowhere in any list of top performing CEOs.


He's only the Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Europe, Middle East and Africa for the UFC. Not too shabby to be in charge of a large piece of the worldwide market for one of the fastest growing international sports....

Unfortunately, this will be my last reply to you because I'd have a more intelligent discussion taking to a rock.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:36 pm

bigblue wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:When it's not your own money then behaving like billy big balls is easy I suppose.


How is that any different that working for any corporation? If you're the VP of Marketing Nike or Pepsi in charge of a $10 billion advertising budget (company money, not your own), it is easy figure out where to allocate the money because it's not your own??

And were you really suggesting earlier that he should have offered MORE than 100 million for Kaka just because he had the budget to do so???

Rag_hater wrote:Could you please tell me though as your so enlightened and probably the most intelligent egghead on here why Mr Cook appears nowhere in any list of top performing CEOs.


He's only the Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Europe, Middle East and Africa for the UFC. Not too shabby to be in charge of a large piece of the worldwide market for one of the fastest growing international sports....




Unfortunately, this will be my last reply to you because I'd have a more intelligent discussion taking to a rock.



UFC fast growing sport ha ha.
Move down from Nike
I did not think you were that daft but being fooled by some advertising hype shows you for what you are really.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Twobob » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:46 pm

Rag_hater wrote: UFC fast growing sport ha ha. Move down from Nike I did not think you were that daft but being fooled by some advertising hype shows you for what you are really.


At the time when he joined we where probably a move down from Nike...

He was an important sail in the storm we found ourselves in and key to landing us with the Sheikh, not the only one mind you but key non the less.

The way he took to the club and embraced the community aspect was refreshing, turning up in a bar (i think it was Naples?) and mingling with the supporters who had to be ferried around due to the risk of violence was a great touch, he didn't have ti do that.

Had his issues, its a different beast being at a club with such a media focus - his actions in the spotlight were at Nike he would be protected by the corporation if they still wanted him.

I liked him, good man and the City in the City things he ram with were a great touch too - gave me an excuse to go into Mad Hatter in NY! :-)
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:59 pm

Nike value = 67 billion
MCFC = 15 billion+
UFC = 2 billion
Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:02 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Nike value = 67 billion
MCFC = 15 billion+
UFC = 2 billion
Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.

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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Twobob » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:06 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Nike value = 67 billion MCFC = 15 billion+ UFC = 2 billion Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.


And?

He like a challenge of building up fledglings?
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Twobob » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:06 pm

Beefymcfc wrote: You're catching some tonight. Well done.


I'm just bored mate, its a bit of fun innit before me bath and a fiddle.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:14 pm

Twobob wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote: You're catching some tonight. Well done.


I'm just bored mate, its a bit of fun innit before me bath and a fiddle.

I'm just trying to work out the 15 billion plus? All's that was missing was the word 'Massive', but I'm sure it was implied.

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Sweet, Sweet Joy to us. The depths of despair for them. Still smiling knowing how it went down.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Twobob » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:25 pm

Beefymcfc wrote: I'm just trying to work out the 15 billion plus? All's that was missing was the word 'Massive', but I'm sure it was implied. What I take from Cookies time with us was what he helped bring to us supporters, and what he brought to the Rags. Sweet, Sweet Joy to us. The depths of despair for them. Still smiling knowing how it went down.


Haha didn't even pick up on the +, maybe that was some spare change down the Sheikhs couch...

It was and still is sweet mate! :-)
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:54 pm

Rag_hater wrote: Sell things a a loss. No I would probably be than worse that Garry, I think though if I had spent my life training to do a job I would be quite competant at it and, i am sure if Frank found somebody different to Mr Cook that person would have been just as capable


Is that the equivalent of saying I could be a doctor had I studied in school and gone to med school?
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby JamieMCFC » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:20 am

Rag_hater wrote:Nike value = 67 billion MCFC = 15 billion+ UFC = 2 billion Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.


You pulled those numbers out of your ass. No one outside Zuffa knows the value of the UFC. They don't release any financials as they are a privately owned company. Zuffa is the parent company of the UFC.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby aaron bond » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:13 am

JamieMCFC wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Nike value = 67 billion MCFC = 15 billion+ UFC = 2 billion Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.


You pulled those numbers out of your ass. No one outside Zuffa knows the value of the UFC. They don't release any financials as they are a privately owned company. Zuffa is the parent company of the UFC.


Not to mention that Cook didn't run Nike, he ran the Jordan brand.

Just ignore him. I respect anyone who offers a different opinion with reasonable evidence to support it but in this thread he's clearly talking about something he knows little about.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Tesl » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:14 am

Fuck me. I've never before seen opinions as stupid as the ones written in this thread by Rag_hater. I don't know why some people feel it necessary to charge into debates that they are 100% clueless about.

I have nothing but appreciation for the Cookie Monster and hope he manages to come back into the City group somewhere soon.
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Re: Good ol Garry.

Postby Rag_hater » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:59 am

JamieMCFC wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Nike value = 67 billion MCFC = 15 billion+ UFC = 2 billion Now I cannot do equations but I can add up and take away and 67 looks a lot more to me than 2.


You pulled those numbers out of your ass. No one outside Zuffa knows the value of the UFC. They don't release any financials as they are a privately owned company. Zuffa is the parent company of the UFC.



My ass no

https://www.google.es/search?q=nike+at+ ... 2&ie=UTF-8


http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0505/080.html


But as credible as the BS you are guilty of
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