Ramifications of Rags finishing outside top 4

[Chopper]

How much will it cost them?

How much damage will it do?

[Slim]

£45M.

[zuricity]

£45M.

Who are they buying now ??? Some England starlet ?

[Beefymcfc]

Me pissing my sides for a full season, possibly more.

[ashton287]

They lose 40+ million from cl revenue. Plus they have to spend money to get back in straight away and they will have to pay more because the top players want to be playing in Europe.

But the increased revenue from the new tv deals will help them out a bit won't it.

[bayblue]

They lose 40+ million from cl revenue. Plus they have to spend money to get back in straight away and they will have to pay more because the top players want to be playing in Europe. But the increased revenue from the new tv deals will help them out a bit won't it.

They'll have to buy very carefully. If they aren't in CL there will be players who will cost them a lot but are happy to forego CL for a year in order to enjoy Manchester living (oh and earn a lot). The trouble will be that quite a few of these will be getting towards end of career and there's a risk in that.
If you look at how clubs outside CL places have attracted really top talent then it's either been us or potentially Liverpool, with Suarez.
But United aren't us. And there's not to many like Suarez around.
Hopefully United will shop broadly and not so wisely.......

[Beefymcfc]

They'll lose match day revenue as well. Ticket sales, meat & tata pies etc.

[Chopper]

They lose 40+ million from cl revenue. Plus they have to spend money to get back in straight away and they will have to pay more because the top players want to be playing in Europe.

But the increased revenue from the new tv deals will help them out a bit won't it.

Thats precisely what I was getting at the loss of revenue wont stop with the Champions league. And with persil shrek duckmouth and vidic all looking like leaving they might not have much to rebuild with. 75 million spent on 2 players plus they'll eventually have to buy gollum out of his contract. How are they going to dig themselves out of this one?

[DoomMerchant]

Nothing for one year. Nike will fold it into a kit deal or something. Any more than one is deadly IMHO.

[Chopper]

The Premier League champions announced record revenues for the second quarter of the 2013-14 financial year when they delivered their financial results on Wednesday but their 0-0 draw at Arsenal, coupled with Liverpool’s 3-2 victory over Fulham, left them 11 points adrift of fourth place.

And while United project their income will rise from 363.2 million pounds to somewhere between 420 and 430 million pounds in the current financial year, it could drop significantly if they do not play in Europe next season.

United banked 35.55 million euros -- around 30 million pounds -- in broadcast rights and prize money from UEFA for reaching the last 16 of the 2012-13 Champions League.

In addition, they had four home games in the competition and matchday revenue at Old Trafford averages out at over three million pounds per game, taking their total proceeds from participating in the competition above 42 million pounds.

While they may end up in the Europa League, which would offer the opportunity for more home games, it is probable ticket prices would have to be reduced and the broadcast rights are far less lucrative, resulting in lesser prize money.

Tottenham, who reached the quarterfinals of the 2012-13 Europa League, received only 5.4 million euros in prize money.

As it stands, United, who are seventh in the Premier League, are on course to miss out on European football altogether unless Manchester City win the Capital One Cup and both FA Cup finalists have already qualified for continental competition.

That means, if United were to end the season in seventh, the FA Cup final would have been contested by two of City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton.

If Sunderland were to win the Capital One Cup and someone other than those five clubs were to reach the FA Cup final, United would have to finish fifth to ensure they play in the Europa League.

Winning the Champions League, or reaching the final, as United have done in three of the last six seasons, can be worth as much as 70 million pounds.

Champions Bayern Munich received 55 million euros from UEFA in broadcast rights and prize money from UEFA last season while United banked 53 million euros in 2010-11, when they were runners-up.

In addition, they also had six home games at Old Trafford, taking their total proceeds from the competition towards the 70 million-pound mark.

[sheblue]

Just can't wait for it to happen.

[mcfc1632]

It is sooooooo sweet for us of the older generation!!!

Just how much would the scum 1st team and squad have to improve next year to be confident of finishing ahead of the top 5 this season - who will all also improve

Just fucking loving it

[Lev Bronstein]

I'm sure they could afford one season out of the CL. The crunch will come next November, if Moyes summer signings are looking OK and a top 4 finish is on the cards, then they'll stick with him and give him money to spend in Jan. Otherwise, a new manager and let him spend money. The question is how much are the Glazers willing to spend? £200mill, £300mill. Either way they can't afford many mistakes of the Veron nature.

[Chopper]

I'm sure they could afford one season out of the CL. The crunch will come next November, if Moyes summer signings are looking OK and a top 4 finish is on the cards, then they'll stick with him and give him money to spend in Jan. Otherwise, a new manager and let him spend money. The question is how much are the Glazers willing to spend? £200mill, £300mill. Either way they can't afford many mistakes of the Veron nature.

Problem is the FFP rules wont allow them that luxury.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

According to Woodward they are planning to go into the transfer market in a way we have not seen from them this summer. Presumably he means by not signing someone on the Kay day who try could have got cheaper earlier. The press interpreted it as spending big.

[Lee_R]

Fucking hell 'Ramifications' not heard that word for yonks.

[derek]

It is sooooooo sweet for us of the older generation!!! could not agree more.

After all the years of having that lot Rammed down our throats, this is so good

Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be so good and they would be so poor, Happy Days

[MilnersJaw]

We really need one big rag thread where we can keep all the shit in some place. Thread could be called big pile of shit in need of flushing.

[FA cup winners 2006]

They will lose cl revenue (30 - 40 mill a year). They may well lose some money on commercial deals by not qualifying.

Also, there uefa coefficient will be screwed for the next 5 seasons at least, 2 seasons out of the cl and they will prob drop to a pot 3 team making their walk in the park groups of previous seasons a thing of the past

[patrickblue]

They will lose cl revenue (30 - 40 mill a year). They may well lose some money on commercial deals by not qualifying.

Also, there uefa coefficient will be screwed for the next 5 seasons at least, 2 seasons out of the cl and they will prob drop to a pot 3 team making their walk in the park groups of previous seasons a thing of the past

They'll no doubt change the rules for them if that happens.