Lescott

[john@staustell]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

[Ted Hughes]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

That's the whole problem with Lescott imo. People judge him on what they 'think' he's going to do rather than what he actually does.

Some people spend the whole game convinced he's going to give the ball away, so when he does it, once, they log it forever. If he passes a nice crisp ball to Dzeko for example, it doesn't register at all.

Lescott in recent times has not been dodgy on the ball or even average on the ball, he's been really fucking good on the ball, passing it around really well, quickly & crisply exactly like people want a cb to do in this team. He has been moving into space, asking for the ball, & really confident in possession.

Some people have it in their heads that he's struggling, so even if he hit 97% perfect passes, including some really nice ones, all they remember after the game is the picture they had in their head before kickoff, of someone who doesn't 'look' right.

A month later, that game is logged in the memory as one where Lescott struggled.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

That's the whole problem with Lescott imo. People judge him on what they 'think' he's going to do rather than what he actually does.

Some people spend the whole game convinced he's going to give the ball away, so when he does it, once, they log it forever. If he passes a nice crisp ball to Dzeko for example, it doesn't register at all.

Lescott in recent times has not been dodgy on the ball or even average on the ball, he's been really fucking good on the ball, passing it around really well, quickly & crisply exactly like people want a cb to do in this team. He has been moving into space, asking for the ball, & really confident in possession.

Some people have it in their heads that he's struggling, so even if he hit 97% perfect passes, including some really nice ones, all they remember after the game is the picture they had in their head before kickoff, of someone who doesn't 'look' right.

A month later, that game is logged in the memory as one where Lescott struggled.

Must have been a figment of my imagination that lescott fucked up and got Kompany a yellow card.

[Slim]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

That's the whole problem with Lescott imo. People judge him on what they 'think' he's going to do rather than what he actually does.

Some people spend the whole game convinced he's going to give the ball away, so when he does it, once, they log it forever. If he passes a nice crisp ball to Dzeko for example, it doesn't register at all.

Lescott in recent times has not been dodgy on the ball or even average on the ball, he's been really fucking good on the ball, passing it around really well, quickly & crisply exactly like people want a cb to do in this team. He has been moving into space, asking for the ball, & really confident in possession.

Some people have it in their heads that he's struggling, so even if he hit 97% perfect passes, including some really nice ones, all they remember after the game is the picture they had in their head before kickoff, of someone who doesn't 'look' right.

A month later, that game is logged in the memory as one where Lescott struggled.

Must have been a figment of my imagination that lescott fucked up and got Kompany a yellow card.

Or when he crapped himself on a longball at his feet and played a lovely little layoff for a Chelsea player.

I'm not saying he had a bad game, but there are instances where he just shits the bed when in possession and I'm not sure throwing a sheet over it will cover the stink.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

That's the whole problem with Lescott imo. People judge him on what they 'think' he's going to do rather than what he actually does.

Some people spend the whole game convinced he's going to give the ball away, so when he does it, once, they log it forever. If he passes a nice crisp ball to Dzeko for example, it doesn't register at all.

Lescott in recent times has not been dodgy on the ball or even average on the ball, he's been really fucking good on the ball, passing it around really well, quickly & crisply exactly like people want a cb to do in this team. He has been moving into space, asking for the ball, & really confident in possession.

Some people have it in their heads that he's struggling, so even if he hit 97% perfect passes, including some really nice ones, all they remember after the game is the picture they had in their head before kickoff, of someone who doesn't 'look' right.

A month later, that game is logged in the memory as one where Lescott struggled.

Must have been a figment of my imagination that lescott fucked up and got Kompany a yellow card.

Or when he crapped himself on a longball at his feet and played a lovely little layoff for a Chelsea player.

I'm not saying he had a bad game, but there are instances where he just shits the bed when in possession and I'm not sure throwing a sheet over it will cover the stink.

I think that helps prove Ted's point. Yes he did mess up on that one occasion ( I believe Carl and Slim are referring to the same thing) but that one moment apart he has an absolutely magnificent game. BUT for some the only thing remembered is the one thing. Yes Vinnie was booked just after it but it was totally unnecessary.

[YayaJonas]

Or when he crapped himself on a longball at his feet and played a lovely little layoff for a Chelsea player.

I'm not saying he had a bad game, but there are instances where he just shits the bed when in possession and I'm not sure throwing a sheet over it will cover the stink.

The problem with lescott is that he can have a great game but when he drops a clanger it's usually massive ie the kompany booking and over the last couple of seasons it usually led to the opposition scoring. But out of all our available CB he is our best option as the other two just ain't that good this season.

[Slim]

I think that helps prove Ted's point. Yes he did mess up on that one occasion ( I believe Carl and Slim are referring to the same thing) but that one moment apart he has an absolutely magnificent game. BUT for some the only thing remembered is the one thing. Yes Vinnie was booked just after it but it was totally unnecessary.

I think there were two instances, but he also did some magnificent defensive work throughout. The only reason I remember to keep count is because I think "Carl's going to have a field day with that one".

[carl_feedthegoat]

Demichelis's strength is his composure and class on the ball, the ball retention and the space he makes. If only we could limit him to playing against bottom-half teams he'd be fantastic. Lescott still looks like "oh fuck , someone is going to get me"

That's the whole problem with Lescott imo. People judge him on what they 'think' he's going to do rather than what he actually does.

Some people spend the whole game convinced he's going to give the ball away, so when he does it, once, they log it forever. If he passes a nice crisp ball to Dzeko for example, it doesn't register at all.

Lescott in recent times has not been dodgy on the ball or even average on the ball, he's been really fucking good on the ball, passing it around really well, quickly & crisply exactly like people want a cb to do in this team. He has been moving into space, asking for the ball, & really confident in possession.

Some people have it in their heads that he's struggling, so even if he hit 97% perfect passes, including some really nice ones, all they remember after the game is the picture they had in their head before kickoff, of someone who doesn't 'look' right.

A month later, that game is logged in the memory as one where Lescott struggled.

Must have been a figment of my imagination that lescott fucked up and got Kompany a yellow card.

Or when he crapped himself on a longball at his feet and played a lovely little layoff for a Chelsea player.

I'm not saying he had a bad game, but there are instances where he just shits the bed when in possession and I'm not sure throwing a sheet over it will cover the stink.

I think that helps prove Ted's point. Yes he did mess up on that one occasion ( I believe Carl and Slim are referring to the same thing) but that one moment apart he has an absolutely magnificent game. BUT for some the only thing remembered is the one thing. Yes Vinnie was booked just after it but it was totally unnecessary.

That one thing you mention can change a game....Kompanys yellow was down to Lescott, end of.Thankfully he played the game out with no second yellow.
Lescott had a decent game otherwise , but your "absolutely magnificent" is an exaggeration in the extreme....everyone played well with Silva and Garcia the standouts.

[Hazy2]

I have to admit he is the best partner out of what we have for the captain, it is a simple solution until we get a better player in.

[Ted Hughes]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

[bayblue]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

I agree. Also really would like us to have a settled central pair going on from now. I think we will always susceptible to mistakes but am sure we will collectively make less if we have a settled back four plus Joe. For now JL is the best partner for Vinny so please let us just go and stick with that.

[Alex Sapphire]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

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they're too "invested" in the "Joleon's a donkey" line to ever accept what is clear to anyone watching.
I know I enjoy my day out a lot more when Lescott is playing

[carl_feedthegoat]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

Whats weird about pointing the finger at a player who was responsible for getting the captain a yellow card?
I think its quite justified.

The Lescott lickers will never point to that fact or at best dismiss it as "one of them things" whilst raving on about a player who was no better or no worse than 99% of the players out there tonight.....yet he gets his own thread as he was supposedly magnificent.

Incredible.

[roblues]

This whole Lescott debate, on here and elsewhere, is getting a bit silly. The point in focus right now - whether you think he isn't good enough to be first choice at the highest level now or in the future, whether you think he deserves a new contract or not, whether you think he can or can't pass, whether he made a mistake or multiple mistakes in the last game or throughout his City career - is this: Kompany aside, do we have a better option right now in the middle of defence? A poll would sort out the answer and those whose response is 'no' need to justify it by highlighting the strengths of the alternative options, not simply by pointing out Lescott's weaknesses. The OP suggested that Lescott should be playing alongside Kompany right now. I can't disagree.

[Risby]

Whats weird about pointing the finger at a player who was responsible for getting the captain a yellow card? I think its quite justified. The Lescott lickers will never point to that fact or at best dismiss it as "one of them things" whilst raving on about a player who was no better or no worse than 99% of the players out there tonight.....yet he gets his own thread as he was supposedly magnificent. Incredible.

I don't think Lescott is any better or worse than what we already have. Each of them have their own weaknesses, but the problem with Lescott is that his problem doesn't lie with his defensive duties, but his footballing ability.

Every time he gets the ball at his feet I become nervous and with the type of game we play, that is a weak point in our team because a lot of the time we pass the ball across the back line before going forward. Against teams that press high, he becomes a problem we don't need.

When he's defending a corner or clearing the box, I feel confident in his ability, and against teams that sit, he has more time on the ball so he can compose himself.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Whats weird about pointing the finger at a player who was responsible for getting the captain a yellow card? I think its quite justified. The Lescott lickers will never point to that fact or at best dismiss it as "one of them things" whilst raving on about a player who was no better or no worse than 99% of the players out there tonight.....yet he gets his own thread as he was supposedly magnificent. Incredible.

I don't think Lescott is any better or worse than what we already have. Each of them have their own weaknesses, but the problem with Lescott is that his problem doesn't lie with his defensive duties, but his footballing ability.

Every time he gets the ball at his feet I become nervous and with the type of game we play, that is a weak point in our team because a lot of the time we pass the ball across the back line before going forward. Against teams that press high, he becomes a problem we don't need.

When he's defending a corner or clearing the box, I feel confident in his ability, and against teams that sit, he has more time on the ball so he can compose himself.

I agree with that 100%.

[Slim]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

Well this is a thread about Lescott is it not? Let me check the thread title...yep there it is, LESCOTT.

And making a post about how Kompany gave the ball away or Yaya was dispossessed in our own half would seem out of place.

If you care to start up a discussion on another player, I'd be happy to contribute.

Self righteous attitude and bullshit checked at the door though I'm afraid.

[Ted Hughes]

It's completely weird how people just remember Lescott miscontrolling the ball, in detail, & nobody else & it absolutely proves my point.

Whats weird about pointing the finger at a player who was responsible for getting the captain a yellow card?
I think its quite justified.

The Lescott lickers will never point to that fact or at best dismiss it as "one of them things" whilst raving on about a player who was no better or no worse than 99% of the players out there tonight.....yet he gets his own thread as he was supposedly magnificent.

Incredible.

It's weird how people spot these things every time & single them out as if it only happens to Lescott, then use it as evidence that he's lacking in that area, but when any of the other defenders do exactly the same thing, it doesn't register.

Lescott probably miscontrolled the ball less & gave it away less v Chelsea, than Jovetic did in that game or v Norwich, but nobody suggests Jovetic has a problem in that area. Zabba does it regularly; no mention. All of the defenders we have, miscontrol the ball & give it away, usually once or twice in a game, sometimes much more.

It rarely even merits a mention, but people can actually recite games where Lescott made a bad pass or slipped up on the ball.

That one will now go in the archives, but will the incident where Kompany ran into the Chelsea half & passed the ball square to a bunch of Chelsea players to run at Lescott etc get a mention ? I bet most people have already forgotten it.

It was a worse mistake than probably anything Lescott has done wrong all season.

[Beefymcfc]

Lescott will be gone come the end of the season unless there's a huge U-turn. He's the best for that position in my opinion and should be played before both Demi and Nasti. But that's not my choice and even though I could argue the point all day, it's not really worth getting riled about.

Neither of our options are the long-term solution and our priority for the closed season must be to bring in a top class partner for Vinnie.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Lescott will be gone come the end of the season unless there's a huge U-turn. He's the best for that position in my opinion and should be played before both Demi and Nasti. But that's not my choice and even though I could argue the point all day, it's not really worth getting riled about.

Neither of our options are the long-term solution and our priority for the closed season must be to bring in a top class partner for Vinnie.

I hope there is a U-turn. Lescott is 31, he still has another 2/3 years he could offer us. Same with Barry. I don't see why we would ship these players out when they are easily good enough to be at least squad players and would provide great depth and experience to the squad.

For example, who here was happier with DM at defensive midfield against Chelsea rather than Barry?
Let's not make the same mistake with Lescott.