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Re: Summer departures

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:18 am

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kennyboy wrote:Wish list: Demichelis, Lescott, Garcia, Rodwell, Dzeko.
Iam unsure on Kolarov.


I rate Dzeko higher than Negredo.
Wouldn't want to ship any of them out, though, but we should get amother world class striker in and demote them to third and fourth striker. I've given up on Jovetic.


I've been boring everybody rigid for ages by saying we need another striker, so I'm in full agreement with the second part of your post, although I, personally, wouldn't rate Dzeko higher than Negredo. However, that's just me.

On the other hand, I know most posters on here have had concerns about the defence for most of the season, but if we had still been scoring goals for fun, the worries which have developed about the team, over the last few weeks, would be so much less.

Perhaps, on reflection, in the summer we need an additional two strikers........
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Re: Summer departures

Postby nottsblue » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:11 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:Richards has to go as he offers next to nothing on the field and is never fit. He's stagnated and needs to move which would suit both parties.

Rodwell needs to go as he's supposed to be a back-up cent midf but when needed he is also never fit.

Demichelis needs to go because he's fookin shite, but sadly unless Pellegrini departs he will stay.

Milner needs to go for his own sake as he's wasting his time at City, when he deserves far more games but never gets them.

Dzeko needs to go - he isn't top class, and we can still get a decent fee for him at age 28

Boyata needs to go - not up to it at the top level, end of.

Lescott doesn't need to go, but the manager doesn't rate him so he will walk. Our loss.

Contract decisions need to be made for Nasri, Pantilimon and Kolarov. Ie, offer them new ones - especially Nasri. If he doesn't sign by July, then he to will have to go otherwise he walks for nowt in summer 2015.


Good call. I'd add Clichy to that list. Sinclair too if he is still our player. Wouldn't let Milner leave though.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:52 pm

Lescott
Boyata
Barry
Possibly Rodwell and Micah
Pants
Dzeko

Not saying they are the ones I would sell/release, but they are most likely because end of contract, poor fitness record

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Re: Summer departures

Postby Jorgobot » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:55 pm

Lee_R wrote:Public execution for Demichiles.


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Re: Summer departures

Postby phips » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:49 am

hopefully everyone in defense except for Zaba and Vincent.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:22 am

Sinclair is on an option to buy loan. Can't believe people want shot of Garcia now he's starting to play well.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby aaron bond » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:30 am

Slim wrote:Sinclair is on an option to buy loan. Can't believe people want shot of Garcia now he's starting to play well.


If we were going to get rid of Garcia then we should have last summer and kept Barry (despite the age difference), but we decided to get rid of the good player and keep the not so good one.

However, as you've pointed out, Garcia has shown some glimpses of improvement lately and if he can maintain that we may as well keep him. Besides, the majority of our funds this summer are likely to be needed on a new defence.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:59 am

aaron bond wrote:
Slim wrote:Sinclair is on an option to buy loan. Can't believe people want shot of Garcia now he's starting to play well.


If we were going to get rid of Garcia then we should have last summer and kept Barry (despite the age difference), but we decided to get rid of the good player and keep the not so good one.

However, as you've pointed out, Garcia has shown some glimpses of improvement lately and if he can maintain that we may as well keep him. Besides, the majority of our funds this summer are likely to be needed on a new defence.


Just concerned that we've gone through the adjustment period and he is about to really come into his own in this league.

We also can't ship Rodwell, Sinclair, Richards and Lescott in one window, the press would murder us.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:37 am

Slim wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
Slim wrote:Sinclair is on an option to buy loan. Can't believe people want shot of Garcia now he's starting to play well.


If we were going to get rid of Garcia then we should have last summer and kept Barry (despite the age difference), but we decided to get rid of the good player and keep the not so good one.

However, as you've pointed out, Garcia has shown some glimpses of improvement lately and if he can maintain that we may as well keep him. Besides, the majority of our funds this summer are likely to be needed on a new defence.


Just concerned that we've gone through the adjustment period and he is about to really come into his own in this league.

We also can't ship Rodwell, Sinclair, Richards and Lescott in one window, the press would murder us.


The media will murder us whatever we do, or don't do, so we might as well get shut of those unwanted players whenever we get the chance.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby PoC » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:01 am

Richards
Lescott
Boyata
Demichelis
Rodwell
Nasti maybe
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Chinners » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:21 am

I'd offer Barry another contract so we'd just have to concentrate on getting the defence sorted out. It will never happen thou
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:51 am

Slim wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
Slim wrote:Sinclair is on an option to buy loan. Can't believe people want shot of Garcia now he's starting to play well.


If we were going to get rid of Garcia then we should have last summer and kept Barry (despite the age difference), but we decided to get rid of the good player and keep the not so good one.

However, as you've pointed out, Garcia has shown some glimpses of improvement lately and if he can maintain that we may as well keep him. Besides, the majority of our funds this summer are likely to be needed on a new defence.


Just concerned that we've gone through the adjustment period and he is about to really come into his own in this league.

We also can't ship Rodwell, Sinclair, Richards and Lescott in one window, the press would murder us.


Not if we pinch Tom Cleverly from the rags. I bet he has arranged a crafty buy out clause in his contract.

Would Garcia keep Roy K***e or DeRossi out of the team ? We can do better, so I wouldn't 100% rule out him going, if the right player became available, even if that's a kid or a veteran.

Dzeko is 28 next week. It must be very tempting to cash in on Dzeko now & go for a more mobile, younger striker. He would fetch a decent fee.

Rumour has it that Micah has a contract on the table not signed. The academy players are young enough to qualify on the 'B' list, so if Micah goes, we are just trimming the senior squad by 1 'club trained' place that we can't possibly fill. So he probably stays.

Loads of offers around for Jovetic if we decide he's likely to miss loads more games, outside chance we could cash in, but he has Hazard level potential; he is potentially 'A' list, Aguero/Yaya level.

With Lescott going, Nasty probably stays on a 'last chance' season.

I recon; Lescott, Barry, Sinclair, Rodwell, Boyata. Deffo gone. So obviously, a Lescott replacement will be signed.

Dzeko, Clichy, Garcia, & possibly Jovetic are all cases for discussion imo. May depend on what they do in the remainig games & what replacements are available.

Micah, maybe, but it wouldn't really make sense apart from a transfer fee.

I would offer Lescott a 1 year extension & sign two central defenders. Dump Nastasic. Then release both Lescott & Demic after next season. Put a buyback clause in Nasty's deal, just in case he actually does have potential.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:12 am

I would get rid of the following...

Lescott - we all know he's gone this summer anyway.Not my ideal choice but in current circumstances would rather see him start for the rest of the season as he is our best option alongside Kompany.

Demichelis- Big time mistake signing this guy.I had hoped he might settle down and look more solid but I'm seeing way too many negatives.I admit at times he does look okay but he always has a major whopper in him.I think h is struggling to adapt to the tempo of the premier league.Maybe a switch to Mls to NYC might suit him, that bird of his would love the lifestyle.

Garcia- yes we have seen signs of improvement thank god but he's still only average at best.If he continues to keep showing signs of improvement he just might be worth keeping.

Sinclair - is he still a city player? I had forgotten all about him until I saw this thread.Has no hope of breaking into the squad and expect City will take the hand of anyone who makes an offer.

Dzeko- he's not going to make it under Pellegrini either is he? He had me thinking he was turning it around for a bit but the last few weeks have convinced me he needs to be moved on.He can be great on his day but he can be the most frustrating player.At times his body language on the field gives the impression he has a total lack of interest.

Clichy- shadow of the player we had in the first season he signed.I would have moved Kolarov on during the summer but he's now looking our best option at left back.

Dedryck Boyata- I'm not of the opinion that he will ever seriously challenge for a place in the team.He could probably do okay for himself in a lesser league but can't see him making it in the premier league.

Honourable mentions...

James Milner- would not have crossed my mind only for a few have mentioned him in this thread already.No way would I want him out, for me he's an important member of the squad.Do feel he deserves a little more game time.

Rodwell - sadly the perennial sick note.Undoubtedly has lots of talent.If he could get himself right he can definitely add something to the squad.Aside from all that he's English and we need a few to keep us ticking over.

Richards - It would be tough to see him leave and I'm sure he would do well wherever he goes if he stayed fit.Fitness is the big worry with Micah he seems to always be reaching for his leg as if he's strained something.Tough decision for the club and him.Its an odd situation as he probably wants assurances of playing more football yet the club probably want someone fit and able to play more regularly.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby sheblue » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:41 am

Expect to see a lot of changes in the summer, maybe a lot more outs rather that in's.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Slim » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:56 am

I think the reason Lescott is a sure thing for a new club is not just the contract but the fact we put him on so much money when he joined us during that "buy anyone" Hughes era. Now we are stuck with a player we couldn't shift without a repeat of the Ade circus so we're happy to let him run out the contract just to get him off the books. His current contract does not count towards FFP's breakeven requirement as it was signed before it came into effect and no way a defender of his calibre would command £100k/week in today's market.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:13 pm

Slim wrote:I think the reason Lescott is a sure thing for a new club is not just the contract but the fact we put him on so much money when he joined us during that "buy anyone" Hughes era. Now we are stuck with a player we couldn't shift without a repeat of the Ade circus so we're happy to let him run out the contract just to get him off the books. His current contract does not count towards FFP's breakeven requirement as it was signed before it came into effect and no way a defender of his calibre would command £100k/week in today's market.


I recon he would accept a new contact at reduced money though. Especially short term. If he was at rags or Chelsea, they would keep him until he was no longer worth using.

He is actually ideal for City's current situation, as a bridge between the old team & new players coming in.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:06 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:I think the reason Lescott is a sure thing for a new club is not just the contract but the fact we put him on so much money when he joined us during that "buy anyone" Hughes era. Now we are stuck with a player we couldn't shift without a repeat of the Ade circus so we're happy to let him run out the contract just to get him off the books. His current contract does not count towards FFP's breakeven requirement as it was signed before it came into effect and no way a defender of his calibre would command £100k/week in today's market.


I recon he would accept a new contact at reduced money though. Especially short term. If he was at rags or Chelsea, they would keep him until he was no longer worth using.

He is actually ideal for City's current situation, as a bridge between the old team & new players coming in.


That Bridge is Wayne too far away for me.
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Re: Summer departures

Postby sandman » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:51 pm

Demichelis - I would let him go, I have a feeling that Pellegrini wouldnt.

Barry - No surprises

Lescott - I am sad to see him go and think he could still do a job for City

Richards - I will hate to see him go but with one year of contract left and FFP looming I have a feeling they will cash in on him.

Milner - I will hate to see him go but with one year of contract left and FFP looming I have a feeling they will cash in on him, I think we are a much better team when he is in the side.

Dzeko - I will not be glad to see the back of him, he created a situation that we were level so that Aguero could score the winning goal in 2012, though I feel we need to be looking at a player that doesnt waste so many easy chances, I think he has cost us points a plenty over the years by not finding the target.
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