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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:58 pm

Please can we stop these fucking debates...they are miserable now. What's done is done. We've all disagreed, we all have our own views on the recent past, on yesterdqay and on the board. We are where we are and we are gaining fuck all by constantly rowing.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:00 pm

ant london wrote:Please can we stop these fucking debates...they are miserable now. What's done is done. We've all disagreed, we all have our own views on the recent past, on yesterdqay and on the board. We are where we are and we are gaining fuck all by constantly rowing.

Debates are a huge part of the function of this site mate. If we stop them it's going to be pretty dull around here.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Slim » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:01 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:What makes someone more rag than someone else? i dont get it.


Everything is governed under the Filth by Association scale or FbA, points are awarded for signing for them, years of service to the filth, goals scored, whining to the ref, having a head shaped like an animal or pixar animation and of course for being Scottish. Points are dedcuted for playing for us, scoring against them, having ginger hair and having a bust up with anyone Scottish.

Kidd scores a whopping 146.75FbA whilst Hughes only has a 56.13FbA, but as been pointed out the scale diminishes over time and most everyone can remember Hughes playing for them, but you need to be older than john68 to remember Kidd.

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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:24 pm

Sorry if I was not specific enough there Lee. I like debate on here in many forms.

I shall rephrase.

Can we stop the same debate that we have been having for the last 18 months.

And if we are going to have it can some of you at least try to refrain from revisionist history.

But if I'm honest I'd prefer to stop having this rehashed and frankly shite argument.

You yourself called for us to try to stop the divisions on here and yet here you are pouring more fuel on the fire by getting into the same argument (and, I know it takes two people/sides to argue but you're not helping here...)
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:29 pm

And just to be clear KK that wasn't aimed directly at you. It was a general plea...
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:34 pm

No problems at all with Kidd as assistant.Mancini had to have someone as assistant mngr and it needed to be someone who knows our game , speaks english and would have respect. I think Kidd fits the bill on all 3 and assistant manager is probably his best role in football. Who he played for is irrelevant as it was for Hughes.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Crossie » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:48 pm

Is it true Brian Kidd has been at our club since September??
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:50 pm

ant london wrote:Sorry if I was not specific enough there Lee. I like debate on here in many forms.

I shall rephrase.

Can we stop the same debate that we have been having for the last 18 months.

And if we are going to have it can some of you at least try to refrain from revisionist history.

But if I'm honest I'd prefer to stop having this rehashed and frankly shite argument.

You yourself called for us to try to stop the divisions on here and yet here you are pouring more fuel on the fire by getting into the same argument (and, I know it takes two people/sides to argue but you're not helping here...)

Fair enough, I wasn't aware that there had been that many discussions about Kidd but I was away from the site for a few months.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Bluez » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:09 pm

Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:What makes someone more rag than someone else? i dont get it.


Everything is governed under the Filth by Association scale or FbA, points are awarded for signing for them, years of service to the filth, goals scored, whining to the ref, having a head shaped like an animal or pixar animation and of course for being Scottish. Points are dedcuted for playing for us, scoring against them, having ginger hair and having a bust up with anyone Scottish.

Kidd scores a whopping 146.75FbA whilst Hughes only has a 56.13FbA, but as been pointed out the scale diminishes over time and most everyone can remember Hughes playing for them, but you need to be older than john68 to remember Kidd.

Clearer?


Excellent explanation. And Kidd as no2 is a good choice, should also mean that we have a commitment to teh academy and a good link between them and the first team
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Burt » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:06 am

lets all have a disco wrote:Kidd is a RAG.

FACT,A bigger rag than Hughes ever was.

This thing about how rag is one person and how much is another is flawed to fuck.


I rest my case Yer Honor.

Kiddo is a MASSIVE devilworshipping rag and has been for nearly 60 years, yet there appears to be very little resistance on here with regard to his employment on our management team.

Bit ironic that innit given the shite that Leslie got right from day one of his tenure with our beloved club.

One rule for one and then another rule for another? Who knows, I was just attempting to make the similarities.

I personally will back him to the hilt and only hope that he doesn't embarass us in the semi-finals by arse licking THEIR fans, taggart and Bert Charlton (convicted ticket tout) etc in the run up to the games.

This is a "Must Win" tie for us and WE need everybody to be TOTALLY committed to OUR cause.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:11 am

Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:What makes someone more rag than someone else? i dont get it.


Everything is governed under the Filth by Association scale or FbA, points are awarded for signing for them, years of service to the filth, goals scored, whining to the ref, having a head shaped like an animal or pixar animation and of course for being Scottish. Points are dedcuted for playing for us, scoring against them, having ginger hair and having a bust up with anyone Scottish.

Kidd scores a whopping 146.75FbA whilst Hughes only has a 56.13FbA, but as been pointed out the scale diminishes over time and most everyone can remember Hughes playing for them, but you need to be older than john68 to remember Kidd.

Clearer?



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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Colin the King » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:19 am

I think with a lot of fans, Hughes' past as a player was only a very small issue. When you assess the arguments of people who advocated his sacking, there were points raised about tactics, organisation, winning mentalities, poor sequences of results- I didn't see too many people referring to his past when seriously discussing his tenure.

The difference, I reckon, with Kidd is that he has a track record of remarkable success as an assistant manager, and is hugely respected in Manchester by Blues and Reds for what he's achieved- being a great player for us in the 70s helps of course.

I'm very optimistic about this- let's hope it's our very own Mourinho/Clarke.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:55 am

A big problem Kiddo needs to overcome, as do the club, is that it appears some of the players are not happy at all about the way City have conducted this business & the fact that he knew about it.

He has to win the players trust very quickly or the new management team will be doomed from the start. We don't have the time to make wholesale changes to the playing staff so we need to get the current bunch onside straight away. In the past we've ended up with dressing room cliques undermining the team with each managerial change. It usually ends in more sackings & relegation. Luckily we have funds to prevent that if it goes wrong but it would still cock the season up & ruin the team.

Hope the David Platt rumours in one paper aren't true. I hate him more than any other person in football, he hates City & is a confirmed rag.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby dazby » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:41 am

I'm a bit concerned having just seen Robbie Manc's vid with the club that he's never met Kidd before. He is confident they will work well together because they were strikers.

Not a good sign. I hope they can sort this out and quickly.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:35 pm

You'll never win anything with Kidd
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:39 pm

LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:You'll never win anything with Kidd



Not bad.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:46 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:You'll never win anything with Kidd



Not bad.


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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby BobKowalski » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:15 pm

Burt wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Kidd is a RAG.

FACT,A bigger rag than Hughes ever was.

This thing about how rag is one person and how much is another is flawed to fuck.


I rest my case Yer Honor.

Kiddo is a MASSIVE devilworshipping rag and has been for nearly 60 years, yet there appears to be very little resistance on here with regard to his employment on our management team.

Bit ironic that innit given the shite that Leslie got right from day one of his tenure with our beloved club.

One rule for one and then another rule for another? Who knows, I was just attempting to make the similarities.

I personally will back him to the hilt and only hope that he doesn't embarass us in the semi-finals by arse licking THEIR fans, taggart and Bert Charlton (convicted ticket tout) etc in the run up to the games.

This is a "Must Win" tie for us and WE need everybody to be TOTALLY committed to OUR cause.


Their is world of difference between Hughes (a rag) as manager and Kidd (a rag) as assistant manager.

Kidd is proven and competent.

To recap. Appointing a rag who is good at his job. No problem. Appointing a rag who is not good at his job. Huge f**king problem.
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby Grob » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:26 pm

BobKowalski wrote:
Burt wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Kidd is a RAG.

FACT,A bigger rag than Hughes ever was.

This thing about how rag is one person and how much is another is flawed to fuck.


I rest my case Yer Honor.

Kiddo is a MASSIVE devilworshipping rag and has been for nearly 60 years, yet there appears to be very little resistance on here with regard to his employment on our management team.

Bit ironic that innit given the shite that Leslie got right from day one of his tenure with our beloved club.

One rule for one and then another rule for another? Who knows, I was just attempting to make the similarities.

I personally will back him to the hilt and only hope that he doesn't embarass us in the semi-finals by arse licking THEIR fans, taggart and Bert Charlton (convicted ticket tout) etc in the run up to the games.

This is a "Must Win" tie for us and WE need everybody to be TOTALLY committed to OUR cause.


Their is world of difference between Hughes (a rag) as manager and Kidd (a rag) as assistant manager.

Kidd is proven and competent.

To recap. Appointing a rag who is good at his job. No problem. Appointing a rag who is not good at his job. Huge f**king problem.


So its OK to have Kidd who ran on the pitch aagainst Wednesday and thanked god for Steve Bruce around 15 years ago during a 10 year coaching career at the scum and scored a goal which helped United win the European Cup during an 11 year playing career at the scum, work for us but it wasnt ok for Hughes to work for us.

Makes sense, couldnt be clearer
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Re: Brian Kidd

Postby BobKowalski » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:43 pm

Grob wrote:
BobKowalski wrote:
Burt wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Kidd is a RAG.

FACT,A bigger rag than Hughes ever was.

This thing about how rag is one person and how much is another is flawed to fuck.


I rest my case Yer Honor.

Kiddo is a MASSIVE devilworshipping rag and has been for nearly 60 years, yet there appears to be very little resistance on here with regard to his employment on our management team.

Bit ironic that innit given the shite that Leslie got right from day one of his tenure with our beloved club.

One rule for one and then another rule for another? Who knows, I was just attempting to make the similarities.

I personally will back him to the hilt and only hope that he doesn't embarass us in the semi-finals by arse licking THEIR fans, taggart and Bert Charlton (convicted ticket tout) etc in the run up to the games.

This is a "Must Win" tie for us and WE need everybody to be TOTALLY committed to OUR cause.


Their is world of difference between Hughes (a rag) as manager and Kidd (a rag) as assistant manager.

Kidd is proven and competent.

To recap. Appointing a rag who is good at his job. No problem. Appointing a rag who is not good at his job. Huge f**king problem.


So its OK to have Kidd who ran on the pitch aagainst Wednesday and thanked god for Steve Bruce around 15 years ago during a 10 year coaching career at the scum and scored a goal which helped U***d win the European Cup during an 11 year playing career at the scum, work for us but it wasnt ok for Hughes to work for us.



Correct. Again the key word. Competence. Kidd could sacrifice vigins during HT at the swamp for all I care as long as he is competent in his job. I do not ask for much in life but I do require the City manager and coaching staff to be competent. Picky I know but as competence has rarely featured during the last 30 odd years I am starting to become a bit of stickler on the matter.
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