What will our amazing PR machine produce now?

[lythamblue]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

You are dead right Bob.

Anyway, next will be ..... "we thought it was OK to turn around the statements we made about 'Preserving the soul of the Club' .... because after reading threads on Mancityfans.net, we realised it had already gone anyway'.

I fear .... we have become another Chelsea ..... but without the trophies!

[carl_feedthegoat]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

You are dead right Bob.

Anyway, next will be ..... "we thought it was OK to turn around the statements we made about 'Preserving the soul of the Club' .... because after reading threads on Mancityfans.net, we realised it had already gone anyway'.

I fear .... we have become another Chelsea ..... but without the trophies!

CHRIST ON A BIKE !!

WHO IS DOOM AND FUCKING GLOOM NOW THEN???

ANYONE WOULD THINK WE HAVE GOT RID OF THE BEST FUCKING MANAGER IN WORLD FOOTBAL!

GET OVER IT - WE HAVE A "ON PAPER" BETTER MANAGER........FUCKINGHELL THE GUYS NOT EVEN NI HIS FIRST DAY YET AND ALL WE SEE ON HERE IS DOOM AND GLOOM.

YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP. !

[Wonderwall]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

You are dead right Bob.

Anyway, next will be ..... "we thought it was OK to turn around the statements we made about 'Preserving the soul of the Club' .... because after reading threads on Mancityfans.net, we realised it had already gone anyway'.

I fear .... we have become another Chelsea ..... but without the trophies!

CHRIST ON A BIKE !!

WHO IS DOOM AND FUCKING GLOOM NOW THEN???

ANYONE WOULD THINK WE HAVE GOT RID OF THE BEST FUCKING MANAGER IN WORLD FOOTBAL!

GET OVER IT - WE HAVE A "ON PAPER" BETTER MANAGER........FUCKINGHELL THE GUYS NOT EVEN NI HIS FIRST DAY YET AND ALL WE SEE ON HERE IS DOOM AND GLOOM.

YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP. !

fucking hell, short memory, you dont need to make it up, look at your own posts when hughes was appointed FFS! pffft

[john68]

Irby Mate,
Thanks for the kind word mate..and you too know I respect your views.

But....
I at no point mentioned Hughes. I am not particularly bothered that Hughes was sacked. I said at the end of last season that he would be judged by results and that appears to have happened. I have no problem with that. For the record, I have no particular feelings about Mancini, I know too little about him or his record, other than what I have read on here.
As you mention it, I have no hidden meanings either. There are none in my posts. I am not playing word games nor trying to be a martyr to Hughes's cause. My anger comes only from the arrogance a smugness of some on here and I am aware that that will only be temporary and will fade quickly.

Now, back to my point. The "OUR" in the recent advertisement of the AD game was not meant for "LOCAL" Mancunian consumption nor for the hardcore City supporter. It was meant quite clearly for the "LOCALS" of the Emirate. Their country Versus "THEIR CLUB".

Like you Irby, I am a City supporter first and foremost. I owe no allegiance, nor ever have, to any individual, be that owner, manager or player. My allegiance is to "MY" club or "OUR" club. In that respect, I will defend it against all comers and any attack.

Finally Mate, I would add that our owners are not spending their millions to enhance manchester City for the sake of John68, I doubt if they have a clue who I may be. Nor are they enhancing "OUR" club for any other individual or group of City fans. They are quite clearly as they stated at the start of this project, building City into a World force as a brand name to hang their businesses on.

They are businessmen not a charity organisation. They have said they want to open a City bank. have a City motor vehicle...all clearly stated by them in the public domain.

I agree that by doing this, we as Cty fans will benefit from seeing a better class of player, in a better team, competing in a higher quality competition. but please understand they do this for them and not us. Primarily their plan is to benefit themseves.

I again pose the question WHOSE CLUB?

We do not have to look very far to see the perfect example of a group of fans who were evicted from "Their" club.

[petrov]

Maybe its just me but I'm well impressed with the way the club handled the sacking. Telling Hughes and the squad pre-the match would of upset the squad and they may not have being focused on the job in hand. Hughes himself said they found out post-match, which is the right thing. Had the world being informed pre-match than we'd probably have lost.

I look at Hughes sacking as the right way to go about things. Look what happened with Sven when he knew he was for the chop, too much fucking about and moping.

Well played City (even if Garry Cook is a slimy bastard)

[lythamblue]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

You are dead right Bob.

Anyway, next will be ..... "we thought it was OK to turn around the statements we made about 'Preserving the soul of the Club' .... because after reading threads on Mancityfans.net, we realised it had already gone anyway'.

I fear .... we have become another Chelsea ..... but without the trophies!

CHRIST ON A BIKE !!

WHO IS DOOM AND FUCKING GLOOM NOW THEN???

ANYONE WOULD THINK WE HAVE GOT RID OF THE BEST FUCKING MANAGER IN WORLD FOOTBAL!

GET OVER IT - WE HAVE A "ON PAPER" BETTER MANAGER........FUCKINGHELL THE GUYS NOT EVEN NI HIS FIRST DAY YET AND ALL WE SEE ON HERE IS DOOM AND GLOOM.

YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP. !

Carl ... read the thread title ..... it's not about whether Mancini is better than Hughes. There are loads of other threads to discuss that.

It's about our PR machine and as to whether we should ever believe any of the statements that our club releases anymore.

[bluej]

Maybe its just me but I'm well impressed with the way the club handled the sacking. Telling Hughes and the squad pre-the match would of upset the squad and they may not have being focused on the job in hand. Hughes himself said they found out post-match, which is the right thing. Had the world being informed pre-match than we'd probably have lost.

I look at Hughes sacking as the right way to go about things. Look what happened with Sven when he knew he was for the chop, too much fucking about and moping.

Well played City (even if Garry Cook is a slimy bastard)

You've got to be having a laugh?

It was quite apparant to everyone around the ground that he was going to be for the chop. Then we had to wait for another 2 hours after the game to hear the official word - despite everyone knowing what was going to be happening. Then there is the fact that Mancini had obviously been approached weeks in advance.

[DoomMerchant]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

i think that you know i spent a lot of time in the last 12 months backing and defending what Hughes was trying to accomplish. What i thought of how he comported himself, and his transfers. I am as sad as anyone that he didn't get the job done. And i feel badly that he's gone...but it doesn't compare to the optimism that maybe we'll turn over a new leaf and make the best of what is honestly one of the top 3 teams in the Premier League.

To a man, you'd be hard pressed to find a football fan around the world who didn't think Mancini was an upgrade on Mark Hughes. I'm sorry if the simplicity of that point doesn't resonate with you...

cheers

[carl_feedthegoat]

IN REPLY TO WONDERWALLS LAST MESSAGE.

ERM RICHEST CLUB IN THE WORLD APPOINTS MANAGER WHO HAS WON FUCKALL IN FOOTBALL AND MANAGED NO TEAM WORTH A REPLAY - AND YOU WONDER WHY ME AND PLENTY MORE WENT BALLISTIC.

WE NOW APPOINT A MANAGER WITH PEDIGREE AND HISTORY OF MANAGING TEAMS THAT ARE WORTH A REPLAY AND YOUR ALL GOING MENTAL???

AS I SAID . YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP.

PFFFFFFT.

[carl_feedthegoat]

honestly the noise about how disrespectful, dishonest or untruthful our ownership/chairman are...is in a word: insane.

How much have they invested in City to start building a top top fuclin football club again with City? Hundreds of millions.

How on earth someone could side with poor little Mark Hughes being hard done because he wasn't given a fair shake in comparison to what our owners are pouring into the club and their longterm goals are is completely provincial and honestly it's the thing i find most "Typical City" about this entire situation of swapping Hughes out for Mancini.

Some of the paranoid and frustrated reactions in this thread are completely small-minded.

Onwards and upwards. He didn't get it fuclin done people...you know it in your hearts so let's move on! Getting romantic now won't change history.

Sorry.

best post I've read in years...

oh lord please forgive them for they not know what they do

i think that you know i spent a lot of time in the last 12 months backing and defending what Hughes was trying to accomplish. What i thought of how he comported himself, and his transfers. I am as sad as anyone that he didn't get the job done. And i feel badly that he's gone...but it doesn't compare to the optimism that maybe we'll turn over a new leaf and make the best of what is honestly one of the top 3 teams in the Premier League.

To a man, you'd be hard pressed to find a football fan around the world who didn't think Mancini was an upgrade on Mark Hughes. I'm sorry if the simplicity of that point doesn't resonate with you...

cheers

IT DOESNT MATE..

[Wonderwall]

IN REPLY TO WONDERWALLS LAST MESSAGE.

ERM RICHEST CLUB IN THE WORLD APPOINTS MANAGER WHO HAS WON FUCKALL IN FOOTBALL AND MANAGED NO TEAM WORTH A REPLAY - AND YOU WONDER WHY ME AND PLENTY MORE WENT BALLISTIC.

WE NOW APPOINT A MANAGER WITH PEDIGREE AND HISTORY OF MANAGING TEAMS THAT ARE WORTH A REPLAY AND YOUR ALL GOING MENTAL???

AS I SAID . YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP.

PFFFFFFT.

love it, you need to remember what you post CARL, you are one of the last people that should be calling for justice on posters not giving the manager time FFS.

[King Kev]

You seem to have missed the point ..... probably because you haven't considered beyond the next 10 games or so, never mind the next 10 years. If all you care about is winning the Carling Cup in February then you will probably ignore what I am going to say next .... but I will write it anyway.

Our owners have changed against their initial statements and principles all too easily. Therefore, you have to wonder whether they really do care about the Academy, social responsibilities, club history, fans etc, as they have also previously statemented.

As someone, who has been quite heavily involved in acquisitions, PR, getting people on side etc, I have seen many similar scenario's. Are we just being fed PR in order to keep us onside for as long as they need us to be?

How would you react if the Academy was conked on the head because 'it took to long ..... or didn't meet the pre set targets"?

I hate it when you patronise, it really is beneath you.

I don't think I have mentioned the Carling Cup Final in the public forum so I'm not sure why you bring this up?

I respect you massively (shame you can't return the sentiment but there you go) but I find it hard to believe that our owners don't care about our fans, history , etc, I don't suppose you have any evidence to back this up?

Yes they are business people, but as such I am sure that they understand their customer. Image is everything to these guys, that is why they bought our club in the first place. So why would they risk a huge public backlash by pissing the fans off?? You say that our owners have changed against thier original statements and principals, what do you mean by this?

[Socrates]

You seem to have missed the point ..... probably because you haven't considered beyond the next 10 games or so, never mind the next 10 years. If all you care about is winning the Carling Cup in February then you will probably ignore what I am going to say next .... but I will write it anyway.

Our owners have changed against their initial statements and principles all too easily. Therefore, you have to wonder whether they really do care about the Academy, social responsibilities, club history, fans etc, as they have also previously statemented.

As someone, who has been quite heavily involved in acquisitions, PR, getting people on side etc, I have seen many similar scenario's. Are we just being fed PR in order to keep us onside for as long as they need us to be?

How would you react if the Academy was conked on the head because 'it took to long ..... or didn't meet the pre set targets"?

Which poster was it that started a thread worrying that Mancini might not care about winning the Carling Cup, remind me?

[lythamblue]

[ You say that our owners have changed against thier original statements and principals, what do you mean by this? Have you got any evidence?

Read previous statements from Cookie and Khaldoon and re listen to the Interviews.

"Mark has our full backing and will be here for a long time etc"

"we know what we are trying to do is difficult but we are patient and here for the long term etc"

"We don't expect success imediately and have full confidence in our management team"

It just goes on and on ..... and now we look daft for believing it.

As the OP said, what else is PR and what can we actually believe now.

I will take the rest of your comments with a pinch of salt as you know me by now and are too old to get upset on a messageboard.

[lythamblue]

You seem to have missed the point ..... probably because you haven't considered beyond the next 10 games or so, never mind the next 10 years. If all you care about is winning the Carling Cup in February then you will probably ignore what I am going to say next .... but I will write it anyway.

Our owners have changed against their initial statements and principles all too easily. Therefore, you have to wonder whether they really do care about the Academy, social responsibilities, club history, fans etc, as they have also previously statemented.

As someone, who has been quite heavily involved in acquisitions, PR, getting people on side etc, I have seen many similar scenario's. Are we just being fed PR in order to keep us onside for as long as they need us to be?

How would you react if the Academy was conked on the head because 'it took to long ..... or didn't meet the pre set targets"?

Which poster was it that started a thread worrying that Mancini might not care about winning the Carling Cup, remind me?

What's that got to do with anything?

Off course I want us to win the Carling Cup ..... doesn't mean that's all I care about.

Pointless thread contribution.

[Socrates]

[ You say that our owners have changed against thier original statements and principals, what do you mean by this? Have you got any evidence?

Read previous statements from Cookie and Khaldoon and re listen to the Interviews.

"Mark has our full backing and will be here for a long time etc"

"we know what we are trying to do is difficult but we are patient and here for the long term etc"

"We don't expect success imediately and have full confidence in our management team"

It just goes on and on ..... and now we look daft for believing it.

As the OP said, what else is PR and what can we actually believe now.

I will take the rest of your comments with a pinch of salt as you know me by now and are too old to get upset on a messageboard.

They had confidence - or at least had to publicly say they had - then lost it because of his performance. Problem where?

[carl_feedthegoat]

IN REPLY TO WONDERWALLS LAST MESSAGE.

ERM RICHEST CLUB IN THE WORLD APPOINTS MANAGER WHO HAS WON FUCKALL IN FOOTBALL AND MANAGED NO TEAM WORTH A REPLAY - AND YOU WONDER WHY ME AND PLENTY MORE WENT BALLISTIC.

WE NOW APPOINT A MANAGER WITH PEDIGREE AND HISTORY OF MANAGING TEAMS THAT ARE WORTH A REPLAY AND YOUR ALL GOING MENTAL???

AS I SAID . YOU COULDNT MAKE IT UP.

PFFFFFFT.

love it, you need to remember what you post CARL, you are one of the last people that should be calling for justice on posters not giving the manager time FFS.

I ACTUALLY MADE A BIG DEAL OF GIVING THE GUY PLENTY OF CREDIT AND RESPECT FOR THE WAY HE CONDUCTED HIMSELF IN THE SUMMER.
DID THAT FACT SLIP YOUR MIND OR DO YOU JUST PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT POSTS I POSTED IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS?

YOUR OVERREACTING BADLY IMO - MANCINI HASNT EVEN FARTED IN HIS OFFICE YET AND ALREADY YOU ARE DOOM AND GLOOM.

[edge275]

[ You say that our owners have changed against thier original statements and principals, what do you mean by this? Have you got any evidence?

Read previous statements from Cookie and Khaldoon and re listen to the Interviews.

"Mark has our full backing and will be here for a long time etc"

"we know what we are trying to do is difficult but we are patient and here for the long term etc"

"We don't expect success imediately and have full confidence in our management team"

It just goes on and on ..... and now we look daft for believing it.

As the OP said, what else is PR and what can we actually believe now.

I will take the rest of your comments with a pinch of salt as you know me by now and are too old to get upset on a messageboard.

What do you think they should've said? "We think Mark Hughes is the man for us at the moment but you never know for the future. If he starts slipping up we might sack the cunt."

[Socrates]

You seem to have missed the point ..... probably because you haven't considered beyond the next 10 games or so, never mind the next 10 years. If all you care about is winning the Carling Cup in February then you will probably ignore what I am going to say next .... but I will write it anyway.

Our owners have changed against their initial statements and principles all too easily. Therefore, you have to wonder whether they really do care about the Academy, social responsibilities, club history, fans etc, as they have also previously statemented.

As someone, who has been quite heavily involved in acquisitions, PR, getting people on side etc, I have seen many similar scenario's. Are we just being fed PR in order to keep us onside for as long as they need us to be?

How would you react if the Academy was conked on the head because 'it took to long ..... or didn't meet the pre set targets"?

Which poster was it that started a thread worrying that Mancini might not care about winning the Carling Cup, remind me?

What's that got to do with anything?

Off course I want us to win the Carling Cup ..... doesn't mean that's all I care about.

Pointless thread contribution.

Seemed like all you cared about in that thread Mark...

[King Kev]

[ You say that our owners have changed against thier original statements and principals, what do you mean by this? Have you got any evidence?

Read previous statements from Cookie and Khaldoon and re listen to the Interviews.

"Mark has our full backing and will be here for a long time etc"

"we know what we are trying to do is difficult but we are patient and here for the long term etc"

"We don't expect success imediately and have full confidence in our management team"

It just goes on and on ..... and now we look daft for believing it.

As the OP said, what else is PR and what can we actually believe now.

I will take the rest of your comments with a pinch of salt as you know me by now and are too old to get upset on a messageboard.

You made that one up didn't you.