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Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 02, 2014 2:11 pm

So, they've now got their story for when we fail at the WC even though most of the other clubs will be doing the same. Our players will be living it up in the lap of luxury for a few days whereas the Dippers, who will be chasing the leprechaun, don't seem to be tarred with the same brush. I wonder what the other national team coaches and players will be thinking with their players having to play yet the English contingent get the time off?

Fucking media, reporting us as if we're the ruination of the England team. Where does Hodgson actually name us?

Or is it just another media ploy to heap a little more pressure on us prior to the season run-in, implicating us as the bad guys while the Dippers are the saviours?

England's Roy Hodgson defied by Manchester City over players' rest

•Joe Hart and James Milner ordered to go on Abu Dhabi trip
• England coach's plea for pre-World Cup break are ignored

Roy Hodgsonhas expressed his disappointment after finding out that Manchester City have defied his request for all Premier League clubs to give their England internationals a free week before joining up for the start of the World Cup preparations.

Hodgson had written to all the relevant clubs asking them to help his plans by resting England's players once the Premier League season had finished. The England manager has now been made aware that City have arranged an exhibition game against Al Ain in Abu Dhabi on 15 May and that Joe Hart and James Milner will not be excused from making the four-day trip.

Liverpool have arranged a game against Shamrock Rovers for the previous day but have agreed to Hodgson's request and decided to give Steven Gerrard, Glen Johnson, Raheem Sterling, Danny Sturridge and Jordan Henderson the week off. City, however, have made it compulsory that their entire squad reports for duty in front of their owner, Sheikh Mansour.

"I sent out a letter, on FA paper, to the clubs, giving them our programme," Hodgson said. "I asked them to be aware that my intention was that, from the last game of the season, the players should be totally free until we meet up – to get a break from football. But the bottom line is that we have no control over it."

The Football Association is liaising with City and the club's response has been that Milner and Hart will not be involved in the game and can use the trip purely as a sunshine break in luxury surroundings. Hodgson's view, however, is that the players should get a clean break before reporting for international duty on 19 May.

"I've done what I can do," Hodgson said. "I'm England's manager and I've said to the clubs I think it's best – and don't forget the players have to come back to their clubs at the end of the World Cup – the players have a week away from football at the end of the season to relax and clear their mind so that from 19 May they can settle down and put a lot of thought, focus and physicality into trying to win the World Cup. If the clubs say: 'We're not interested in that, we want to do something else,' there's nothing I can do about it. I don't have the right, or the authority, to tell clubs what to do at the end of the season."

Hodgson said he had finalised his 23-man squad, to be announced on Monday week, and will begin informing the players who have missed out straight after the last round of Premier League fixtures the previous day. Hodgson knows it will be a difficult process that could threaten his working relationship with various players.

"Some of the people I leave out will be very disappointed and upset, angry perhaps, thinking they have been harshly treated," he said. "It's very tough. There is no easy way to break someone's heart. But I have to be honest, I made up my mind about the 23 quite a while ago."

The England manager spoke effusively about Frank Lampard's importance to the squad as vice-captain to Steven Gerrard, offering a clue that the Chelsea player will make the cut. Ashley Cole's place has come under threat because of the way he has been marginalised at Chelsea, including a run of 18 successive games out of the team, but Hodgson also spoke well of a player who has 107 England caps against Luke Shaw's one.

"The fact that he has not played won't affect me that much. I have never doubted Ashley and I have never thought that I can't pick Ashley because he hasn't played 18 games."

Hodgson described Gerrard as "down" because of his mistake in Liverpool's defeat against Chelsea last weekend but is not worried that his "superb captain" will let it affect him if it proves to be a decisive blow in the title race.

"He's very strong mentally. But I know he's a bit down because it was a big game and a very heavy defeat when they were being built up to an extent, and unfortunately his mistake cost them the match." He is, however, worried that not everyone will have Gerrard's mental strength. "The worst fear would be that the pressure gets on top of the players and that we aren't going to be able to get close to what I know this team could possibly produce. We can do our level best to try to make the players feel comfortable, well prepared, and not under any great pressure from us.

"But the football world is wider than just your team-mates and your coaches. There's a lot of peer pressure, there's pressure from family and friends. My biggest fear is we will come away from the World Cup knowing that, if we had just been a little more relaxed and freed our minds a bit more, we could have done better."

Several England players, potentially including Adam Lallana and Cole, will go into the tournament with their club futures undecided. Hodgson has made it clear, however, he will not tolerate players being distracted by transfer business.

"It would be naive of me to think it is not going to happen but the players will have to accept I am not going to show any sympathy. As far as I am concerned, they are signing up for England. There is a great mood of positivity amongst the general public. We have a responsibility to feed off that positivity, and how can a player feed off the positivity if he is more concerned about his club future? I should, if I were a real player, be saying to my agent: 'At the moment I am working for England and that is where my head is.'"

Hodgson also reiterated that it would be unfair to assume Sterling will automatically take his Liverpool form into the World Cup. "Two months ago if you had said Raheem Sterling, you would have said 'Are you crazy? It's Ross Barkley, he's the man, or Lallana or [Jay] Rodriguez.' What about Zaha? Wilfried Zaha was getting enormous praise. We took him in the national team because this lad was flying. This was going to be 'the best England player' but unfortunately, because he is young, he hit a bad patch and you don't hear quite so much about him now.

"I am very conscious when I pick the squad it's because they have a permanent class and a permanent future and not because they happen to be having a wonder spell. He [Sterling] has done it over a period of time. But there have been moments where it has been a little bit up and down. At the moment he is up there. Let's hope he can stay there."

On Adnan Januzaj's decision to commit himself to Belgium, Hodgson shrugged. "I'm sorry, but I don't see what the fuss is about," he said. "If a player isn't eligible to play for England until 2018, then what's the problem if he goes and plays for someone else? He's not English anyway – let's be fair. We can argue that, under the current Fifa rules, by 2017 and 2018, he might be eligible to play for England. But how can you be upset in 2014 if he plays for one of the other countries that he's actually eligible for? He was born and brought up in Belgium. We can't be disappointed by that."
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Fri May 02, 2014 2:17 pm

We'll, I thought it was just a pointless trip but now I know it's winding up Hodgson I can see the sense in it.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Wonderwall » Fri May 02, 2014 2:20 pm

FFS City! Now England won't win the world cup because we gave our 2 England players a lovely break in the sunshiiiiine.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby zuricity » Fri May 02, 2014 2:42 pm

Wonderwall wrote:FFS City! Now England won't win the world cup because we gave our 2 England players a lovely break in the sunshiiiiine.


indeed it's not as if Milner is a regular for woy. Joe doesn't need to run around much does he?
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby MilnersJaw » Fri May 02, 2014 2:46 pm

zuricity wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:FFS City! Now England won't win the world cup because we gave our 2 England players a lovely break in the sunshiiiiine.


indeed it's not as if Milner is a regular for woy. Joe doesn't need to run around much does he?


he does for his 6 mile job.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby zuricity » Fri May 02, 2014 3:52 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:
he does for his 6 mile job.


Has he got a paper round?
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby City64 » Fri May 02, 2014 4:19 pm

Fuck the FA and fuck UEFA ......... Sorted !
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 02, 2014 4:54 pm

City64 wrote:Fuck the FA and fuck UEFA ......... Sorted !

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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby BlueinBosnia » Fri May 02, 2014 9:01 pm

Would this article have been written had Chelsea beat Atletico Madrid?
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Fri May 02, 2014 10:00 pm

Who cares. Even if we gave them 2 months off we still won't get further than round 2. England are shit
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Fri May 02, 2014 10:12 pm

I'm not happy with their plans, so we are quits.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Slim » Sat May 03, 2014 12:52 am

The England manager spoke effusively about Frank Lampard's importance to the squad as vice-captain to Steven Gerrard, offering a clue that the Chelsea player will make the cut.


You know every mistake that every England manager before me made? WELL I'M MAKING IT FUCKING TOO!

Did the article say anything else?
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby john@staustell » Sat May 03, 2014 6:09 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:We'll, I thought it was just a pointless trip but now I know it's winding up Hodgson I can see the sense in it.


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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Sat May 03, 2014 8:23 am

john@staustell wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:We'll, I thought it was just a pointless trip but now I know it's winding up Hodgson I can see the sense in it.


This


I hope it winds up all of them. Especially shaun custis
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat May 03, 2014 8:45 am

Seems as though Hodgson is starting to try and get his excuses in early.

As abject 'no-hopers' in a competition featuring some of the best and finest teams in the world, perhaps England ought to do the decent thing and pull out right now to avoid terminal humiliation.

They could hand their place over to a better and more deserving side such as Northern Ireland, Wales or Scotland......no, perhaps on second thoughts, it would be better to forget all about Scotland.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat May 03, 2014 9:43 am

Fuck watching England , I cannot believe how an avid watcher like me has done a U turn...cannot stand to watch them now.I will be watching any team with any of our other players playing , like Spain.

Keep employing drones like Hodgson and I will just switch off.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby zuricity » Sat May 03, 2014 9:47 am

Slim wrote:
You know every mistake that every England manager before me made? WELL I'M MAKING IT FUCKING TOO!

Did the article say anything else?


Well well ! England pinning their hopes on two well over 30 midfielders Gerrard and Lampard.Both of them, their legs have gone. So now they will be fighting for that spot just in front of the central defenders to spray 50 / 60 metre passes.


England won't get out of the group.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Sat May 03, 2014 10:25 am

zuricity wrote:
Slim wrote:
You know every mistake that every England manager before me made? WELL I'M MAKING IT FUCKING TOO!

Did the article say anything else?


Well well ! England pinning their hopes on two well over 30 midfielders Gerrard and Lampard.Both of them, their legs have gone. So now they will be fighting for that spot just in front of the central defenders to spray 50 / 60 metre passes.


England won't get out of the group.


Add to that the conditions. I can see Costa Rica beating them as well
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby MilnersJaw » Sat May 03, 2014 11:58 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Fuck watching England , I cannot believe how an avid watcher like me has done a U turn...cannot stand to watch them now.I will be watching any team with any of our other players playing , like Spain.

Keep employing drones like Hodgson and I will just switch off.


i'll be cheering on italy and laughing at england.
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Re: FA Unhappy With Our Plans

Postby nottsblue » Sun May 04, 2014 6:59 pm

Part of me thinks so what. Let the useless bunch at the FA get on with it.

However, the other part thinks not to piss them off more than we have to. We get precious little with referees and fixtures as it is. We don't want to antagonise the powers that be more than is necessary.

Overall thought though is bollocks to the FA
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