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Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Socrates » Wed May 07, 2014 6:27 am

Put this in the FFP thread but is much broader than that and deserves its own discussion...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-deserve-much-better-3505526?

Manchester City deserve much better than being hounded by UEFA over FFP and ignored by the nation
The champions-elect we all forgot this season amid Liverpool's fairytale charge back into title contention represent the best of football, writes Oliver Holt

Manchester City and their fans are entitled to feel aggrieved.

Tonight, the Blues can take a giant step closer to winning one of the most thrilling title races of recent years in English football.

If they thrash Aston Villa at the Etihad, City could become the only team to join the Chelsea of 2009-10 in scoring 100 goals in a Premier League season.

It would be more proof that they have played some ­wonderfully swashbuckling ­football on their way to the top.

And yet, City are the ­champions-elect we all forgot.

They are the side that got lost as we followed the compelling ­narrative of Liverpool’s underdog attempt to win their first title for 24 years.

City are the team with a boss who kept quiet while Jose ­Mourinho took all the attention with his talking and posturing.

City are the team who kept on amassing points while so many of us were captivated by the ­spectacle of the thousands lining Anfield Road before every home game, trying to will Liverpool to the title.

They are the club with the narrative of their own, the club that established itself ­incontrovertibly as the leading team in Manchester as United fell from grace.

And even now ­Liverpool and Chelsea have faded from the picture, still the ­headlines are not about City’s ­excellence.

Instead, it’s about the estimated £49million fine UEFA are set to attempt to impose on them for breaching Financial Fair Play ­regulations.

Something is wrong with FFP if it punishes a regime that is pouring millions into the ­regeneration of a deprived area of East Manchester.

Nobody is suggesting that Sheikh Mansour and his cohorts are driven by altruism but ­whatever their motives, it is hard not to admire much of what is happening at City.

Their youth set-up is so ­impressive, former United players are sending their kids to train there. They are pouring funds into a women’s team in the WSL, too. Their campus is a centre of ­excellence, a model of the way forward.

That is the problem with FFP - it enshrines the principle that might is right, big equals good. It seeks to perpetuate the hegemony of the clubs with the most supporters and the most revenue. There is no fantasy about it.

City’s story represents the dream of every downtrodden club, every poor relation - that one day it can be propelled to the top.

It has happened in front of us at Manchester City, and all UEFA want to do is punish them for it.

They distrust the rise of smaller clubs. It threatens their vested interests.

The irony is City stand on the brink of an achievement that deserves to be celebrated more than anything else they have done. They have gone head-to-head with a Liverpool side that appeared to have an unstoppable momentum and they seem to have outlasted them.

This is not the often-pragmatic side marshalled by Roberto Mancini. This is a team of ­wonderfully skilful players Manuel Pellegrini has moulded into a breathtaking attacking unit.

Some of their football towards the turn of the year was sublime.

They were at their unstoppable best when they could pair Sergio Aguero, whose season has been disrupted by injury, and Alvaro Negredo in attack.

In November and December, they stuck seven past Norwich, six past Tottenham, four past Fulham and six past Arsenal.

This is a team overflowing with flair, with the likes of David Silva, Samir Nasri, Jesus Navas.

This is a team that has the might and grace of Yaya Toure at its heart.

If City hold their nerve and win their second title in three years at the Etihad on Sunday, forget the petty objections of the joyless bureaucrats at UEFA.

Because it will be a triumph for a team that represents the best of football.

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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby budfox » Wed May 07, 2014 6:31 am

Spot on. I salute the guy.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Lev Bronstein » Wed May 07, 2014 6:37 am

Couldn't have said it better myself
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Bluedj » Wed May 07, 2014 6:39 am

Great read
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Evenmydoghatesunited » Wed May 07, 2014 6:56 am

If i was wearing a hat id take it off
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Benjay » Wed May 07, 2014 6:58 am

Very good. I feel like crying
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby john@staustell » Wed May 07, 2014 7:05 am

Cant believe how much Ollie has changed in 5 years. But also I think many see this as a clear attack on English and French upstart clubs.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby xavi6 » Wed May 07, 2014 7:10 am

Stunning? Easily impressed so.

This is a journo backtracking after spending months romanticising and willing Liverpool to win the league. Him and countless others have been pushing the "how great would it be for swash buckling Liverpool to break their drought?" narrative for months now. He admits it in the article.

Now that Rodgers and co. made a balls of things he's come running back with some state the obvious bullshit to get back in the good books. Sorry, I'm not having it.

Where was this weeks ago? Where was this on Monday morning after we'd done the job at Everton? Only now that their flavour of the year club have ballsed things up are they writing this sort of thing. We wouldn't be blowing smoke up the arse of fair weather fans, Holt and his ilk should be no different.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Socrates » Wed May 07, 2014 7:18 am

xavi6 wrote:Stunning? Easily impressed so.

This is a journo backtracking after spending months romanticising and willing Liverpool to win the league. Him and countless others have been pushing the "how great would it be for swash buckling Liverpool to break their drought?" narrative for months now. He admits it in the article.

Now that Rodgers and co. made a balls of things he's come running back with some state the obvious bullshit to get back in the good books. Sorry, I'm not having it.

Where was this weeks ago? Where was this on Monday morning after we'd done the job at Everton? Only now that their flavour of the year club have ballsed things up are they writing this sort of thing. We wouldn't be blowing smoke up the arse of fair weather fans, Holt and his ilk should be no different.


it's the conversion that partly makes it stunning, that and the eulogising, the narrative is changing and this demonstrates it more than anything - UEFA's overplaying of their hand is having a strange effect and may actually be working for us!
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby xavi6 » Wed May 07, 2014 7:23 am

Socrates wrote:
xavi6 wrote:Stunning? Easily impressed so.

This is a journo backtracking after spending months romanticising and willing Liverpool to win the league. Him and countless others have been pushing the "how great would it be for swash buckling Liverpool to break their drought?" narrative for months now. He admits it in the article.

Now that Rodgers and co. made a balls of things he's come running back with some state the obvious bullshit to get back in the good books. Sorry, I'm not having it.

Where was this weeks ago? Where was this on Monday morning after we'd done the job at Everton? Only now that their flavour of the year club have ballsed things up are they writing this sort of thing. We wouldn't be blowing smoke up the arse of fair weather fans, Holt and his ilk should be no different.


it's the conversion that partly makes it stunning, that and the eulogising, the narrative is changing and this demonstrates it more than anything - UEFA's overplaying of their hand is having a strange effect and may actually be working for us!


The narrative is only changing because the basket that he and countless others put all their eggs in has gone tits up. If Liverpool had won on Monday I would put a fair wedge on this piece never being written.

By all means read it and be satisfied with the good press, but the fawning I'm seeing on Facebook and Twitter, as well as a couple of the posts above, is nonsense. In my opinion of course.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Hazy2 » Wed May 07, 2014 7:36 am

Churchill could have wrote that, If that does get the blood flowing for tonights game, nothing will, in fact if they get that piped into the dressing room, we will need calculators, for the score. Great read, fuck me, Oliver Holt take a bow.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Chopper » Wed May 07, 2014 7:47 am

Socrates wrote:Put this in the FFP thread but is much broader than that and deserves its own discussion...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-deserve-much-better-3505526?

Manchester City deserve much better than being hounded by UEFA over FFP and ignored by the nation
The champions-elect we all forgot this season amid Liverpool's fairytale charge back into title contention represent the best of football, writes Oliver Holt

Manchester City and their fans are entitled to feel aggrieved.

Tonight, the Blues can take a giant step closer to winning one of the most thrilling title races of recent years in English football.

If they thrash Aston Villa at the Etihad, City could become the only team to join the Chelsea of 2009-10 in scoring 100 goals in a Premier League season.

It would be more proof that they have played some ­wonderfully swashbuckling ­football on their way to the top.

And yet, City are the ­champions-elect we all forgot.

They are the side that got lost as we followed the compelling ­narrative of Liverpool’s underdog attempt to win their first title for 24 years.

City are the team with a boss who kept quiet while Jose ­Mourinho took all the attention with his talking and posturing.

City are the team who kept on amassing points while so many of us were captivated by the ­spectacle of the thousands lining Anfield Road before every home game, trying to will Liverpool to the title.

They are the club with the narrative of their own, the club that established itself ­incontrovertibly as the leading team in Manchester as United fell from grace.

And even now ­Liverpool and Chelsea have faded from the picture, still the ­headlines are not about City’s ­excellence.

Instead, it’s about the estimated £49million fine UEFA are set to attempt to impose on them for breaching Financial Fair Play ­regulations.

Something is wrong with FFP if it punishes a regime that is pouring millions into the ­regeneration of a deprived area of East Manchester.

Nobody is suggesting that Sheikh Mansour and his cohorts are driven by altruism but ­whatever their motives, it is hard not to admire much of what is happening at City.

Their youth set-up is so ­impressive, former United players are sending their kids to train there. They are pouring funds into a women’s team in the WSL, too. Their campus is a centre of ­excellence, a model of the way forward.

That is the problem with FFP - it enshrines the principle that might is right, big equals good. It seeks to perpetuate the hegemony of the clubs with the most supporters and the most revenue. There is no fantasy about it.

City’s story represents the dream of every downtrodden club, every poor relation - that one day it can be propelled to the top.

It has happened in front of us at Manchester City, and all UEFA want to do is punish them for it.

They distrust the rise of smaller clubs. It threatens their vested interests.

The irony is City stand on the brink of an achievement that deserves to be celebrated more than anything else they have done. They have gone head-to-head with a Liverpool side that appeared to have an unstoppable momentum and they seem to have outlasted them.

This is not the often-pragmatic side marshalled by Roberto Mancini. This is a team of ­wonderfully skilful players Manuel Pellegrini has moulded into a breathtaking attacking unit.

Some of their football towards the turn of the year was sublime.

They were at their unstoppable best when they could pair Sergio Aguero, whose season has been disrupted by injury, and Alvaro Negredo in attack.

In November and December, they stuck seven past Norwich, six past Tottenham, four past Fulham and six past Arsenal.

This is a team overflowing with flair, with the likes of David Silva, Samir Nasri, Jesus Navas.

This is a team that has the might and grace of Yaya Toure at its heart.

If City hold their nerve and win their second title in three years at the Etihad on Sunday, forget the petty objections of the joyless bureaucrats at UEFA.

Because it will be a triumph for a team that represents the best of football.



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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed May 07, 2014 9:25 am

Fair play to him, even if he was backing Liverpool earlier.

He has admitted City haven't been getting the treatment they deserve & that's all we ask for in the end. If people are finally realising this, then it is good for the club.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Chinners » Wed May 07, 2014 9:30 am

xavi6 wrote:Stunning? Easily impressed so.

This is a journo backtracking after spending months romanticising and willing Liverpool to win the league. Him and countless others have been pushing the "how great would it be for swash buckling Liverpool to break their drought?" narrative for months now. He admits it in the article.

Now that Rodgers and co. made a balls of things he's come running back with some state the obvious bullshit to get back in the good books. Sorry, I'm not having it.

Where was this weeks ago? Where was this on Monday morning after we'd done the job at Everton? Only now that their flavour of the year club have ballsed things up are they writing this sort of thing. We wouldn't be blowing smoke up the arse of fair weather fans, Holt and his ilk should be no different.


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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 07, 2014 9:34 am

xavi6 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
xavi6 wrote:Stunning? Easily impressed so.

This is a journo backtracking after spending months romanticising and willing Liverpool to win the league. Him and countless others have been pushing the "how great would it be for swash buckling Liverpool to break their drought?" narrative for months now. He admits it in the article.

Now that Rodgers and co. made a balls of things he's come running back with some state the obvious bullshit to get back in the good books. Sorry, I'm not having it.

Where was this weeks ago? Where was this on Monday morning after we'd done the job at Everton? Only now that their flavour of the year club have ballsed things up are they writing this sort of thing. We wouldn't be blowing smoke up the arse of fair weather fans, Holt and his ilk should be no different.


it's the conversion that partly makes it stunning, that and the eulogising, the narrative is changing and this demonstrates it more than anything - UEFA's overplaying of their hand is having a strange effect and may actually be working for us!


The narrative is only changing because the basket that he and countless others put all their eggs in has gone tits up. If Liverpool had won on Monday I would put a fair wedge on this piece never being written.

By all means read it and be satisfied with the good press, but the fawning I'm seeing on Facebook and Twitter, as well as a couple of the posts above, is nonsense. In my opinion of course.


Irrespective of the motives for Oliver Holt writing such an article, it really is a well written piece and any normal person reading it couldn't fail to be influenced, to some greater or lesser extent, by it.

In the long run, articles such as these, as opposed to the hostile ones we've had to endure for so long, can only start to change some attitudes towards City, for the better.
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Chinners » Wed May 07, 2014 10:07 am

Like the hostile one's previously written by him have turned large swathes of people against the club you mean?
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed May 07, 2014 10:14 am

Chinners wrote:Like the hostile one's previously written by him have turned large swathes of people against the club you mean?


Correct. You've got it in one.


(apologies, old chap, I wasn't "taking the mickey" in any way - I was just being a bit daft)
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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Dubciteh » Wed May 07, 2014 11:03 am

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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby Chinners » Wed May 07, 2014 11:39 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Chinners wrote:Like the hostile one's previously written by him have turned large swathes of people against the club you mean?


Correct. You've got it in one.


(apologies, old chap, I wasn't "taking the mickey" in any way - I was just being a bit daft)


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Re: Stunning article by Oliver Holt!

Postby The Original Special One » Wed May 07, 2014 1:03 pm

Give that man a round of applause.

And now that more and more journalists are standing up and being counted - and exposing FFP for the sly protectionist sham that it is - how long before even the misguided blinkered 'financial doping' Gooner fans will shout 'tear down those FFP walls, Platini'
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