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Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:35 am

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/148 ... e-volatile

ROBERTO MANCINI’s reign at Manchester City is likely to be volatile as he takes on the club’s under-achieving players.


Mancini once got changed at half-time and refused to play the second half of an Italian League game for Sampdoria after a dressing-room row with the club president.

Manager Sven-Goran Eriksson was about to tell a substitute to get ready when another Sampdoria player went into the shower and persuaded him to go out again.

Mancini, 45, says he is older now and has matured, but those who know him think the old fire is still burning and say Manchester City better be prepared for fireworks.

Expensive under-achievers like Emmanuel Adebayor and Robinho can be expected to be targeted by Mancini and if they do not respond they will find themselves outside the group of players with whom he will be working. “Mancho was a god when he was at Sampdoria,” said a source close to Mancini.

“But he could run 30 yards in a game to tell someone off. He turned on a younger player during one match and continued that in the dressing room.

“When he was told he was out of order to turn on a younger player, that was it, Mancho took his shirt off and said he wasn’t playing. It took a team-mate to persuade him to go out again.

“So Mancho dried his hair, put on a new shirt and played.”

Mancini was also known for being difficult as a player, moaning and grumpy. So he should get on with Craig Bellamy at City.

“But also Mancini won’t waste a minute of his time,” said the source. “He is a very good coach. He makes a winning mentality in the dressing room. He won’t be like the English managers and want to do all the transfer deals.

“Mancho will be on the training pitch all the time. He won’t waste a second. He won’t have waited until the last minute to bring up Rory Delap’s long throw for Stoke.

“That will have been worked on during intense 20 or 30-minute sessions with the players from the moment he got to City.

“Robbie also likes to work with a small group of players. When he went to Inter Milan as manager he found there were 54 players. He chose the ones he wanted to be with him and another trainer was brought in to deal with the rest.

“Mancini will work with 20 to 23 players, that’s all he needs.”

If Adebayor, who came with a reputation from Arsenal, or Robinho, who has been less than a consistent success with City, do not improve then they will be faced with an angry Mancini.

And if he cannot make them a part of a strong dressing room with no divisions, then they will go. “Mancho will say what he thinks,” said the source. “He is passionate. He has this reputation in Italy. Sometimes he can let his mouth run away with him.

“There will be rows with players. He will criticise his players on the training pitch. He will lose his temper at times. It’s going to be lively at Manchester City with Robbie there.

“The newspapers will like Mancho.”

Mancini has always been interested in coaching and was a big voice in the Sampdoria dressing room when Eriksson was manager.

If Eriksson had given the players a rest and eased off in training, the players would go to Mancini and say they had not done enough tactical work ahead of the next game.

“He was a player at the highest level and a complex character who thought about everything,” said the source.

“Mancini would moan. Bellamy, who is supposed to be a moaner, will be a baby compared to Mancho.

“He will recognise that in Bellamy and he will handle it. Mancini can handle players. But he says what he thinks. It’s not that he gets angry, he just says what he thinks.

“Mancini is very assured, very confident, but he can come across at times as melancholy. There could be fireworks. If Sir Alex Ferguson, at Manchester United, decides he is going to try to rile Mancini, he will tell him what to do – concentrate on his own club.”

From the moment he knew he had got the job, Mancini told one of his coaches to get on a plane from Milan to Birmingham on Saturday and watch Stoke away to Aston Villa.

There will be nothing Stoke throw at Manchester City today that will surprise Mancini or his players. They will be prepared for the onslaught. Whether City are totally prepared for Mancini is another question.‘Bellamy is a baby compared to Mancini’



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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby edge275 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:47 am

An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:24 am

edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.


i heard Robson's comment in that Sly interview the same way...as if things were getting more in focus for him and the group. Whether it's true or not, he's the employee and if he says or implies that shit has changed then it has i suppose.

i'm excited for today...and can't wait to see how the team respond. Wish i could be there in person...i bet it will be a cracking atmosphere....tons of emtion and energy for the team. Come on CITY!

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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Slim » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:30 am

I am just really excited to see what Mancini can bring and it all starts today, WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby john@staustell » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:03 am

Sounds good. However I doubt he can have worked all his magic by this afternoon!
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby saulman » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:54 am

Roll on 3 o'clock. I can't fuckin wait.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Spurge » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:59 am

[quote="edge275"]An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.[/quote]

Funny you never mentioned this when Hughes was in charge
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:16 am

john@staustell wrote:Sounds good. However I doubt he can have worked all his magic by this afternoon!



I know what you mean but unless he's really fucked players off as the press would like us to believe then either way I can see a new manager syndrome tonking of Stoke today. One last chance for the Hughes to have a dig about they were right.

On a side note, think I may now look forward to reading Edge's posts now he has no agenda, that is not a pop more a reflection on his reply to this thread!
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:17 am

Agreed can't wait.A day full of anticipation and excitement but also a day full of IFs.

There have been a lot of words spoken in what has been a very long week. Mancini sounds a very interesting character who doesn't seem to suffer fools( lazy gits) lightly so we will probably see City continually in the headlines . Let's hope it's for the right reasons.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby dazby » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:24 am

edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.


Well spotted Edgey, I picked up on that too.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:50 pm

Spurge wrote:
edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.


Funny you never mentioned this when Hughes was in charge


I think most people always agreed that either with or without Hughes the club as a whole was moving in the right direction, but that regarding Hughes' methods, we never got the best out of Robinho save for 5/6 home games last season. He had Adebayor playing well early doors, but I think in both cases the decent spells for these players coincided with a run of confidence that ran through the whole team.

It seems that as soon as the swagger of the team disappears, so do Robinho and Adebayor. What I think Edge is alluding to is that Mancini's big challenge now is to re-build the player's confidence so that all involved can get that confidence back and play well consistently, clearly for the board to have changed the manager would imply that there has been a lack of confidence in recent weeks/months in being able to achieve the club's ambition with the old manager in charge.

How demoralising for the likes of Robbie/Adebayor to know that even if you put in a shift up front and we score 3, we are still more likely to draw than win because of the defensive disorganisation. If he cracks that nut, he could have quite an easy ride here and become an instant success.

I look forward to seeing how this group react to a different managerial style - really looking forward to it.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Swales4ever » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:23 pm

10.Goater_Legend wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/148094/Mancini-s-Man-City-reign-will-be-volatile

ROBERTO MANCINI’s reign at Manchester City is likely to be volatile as he takes on the club’s under-achieving players.


Mancini once got changed at half-time and refused to play the second half of an Italian League game for Sampdoria after a dressing-room row with the club president.

Manager Sven-Goran Eriksson was about to tell a substitute to get ready when another Sampdoria player went into the shower and persuaded him to go out again.

Mancini, 45, says he is older now and has matured, but those who know him think the old fire is still burning and say Manchester City better be prepared for fireworks.

Expensive under-achievers like Emmanuel Adebayor and Robinho can be expected to be targeted by Mancini and if they do not respond they will find themselves outside the group of players with whom he will be working. “Mancho was a god when he was at Sampdoria,” said a source close to Mancini.

“But he could run 30 yards in a game to tell someone off. He turned on a younger player during one match and continued that in the dressing room.

“When he was told he was out of order to turn on a younger player, that was it, Mancho took his shirt off and said he wasn’t playing. It took a team-mate to persuade him to go out again.

“So Mancho dried his hair, put on a new shirt and played.”

Mancini was also known for being difficult as a player, moaning and grumpy. So he should get on with Craig Bellamy at City.

“But also Mancini won’t waste a minute of his time,” said the source. “He is a very good coach. He makes a winning mentality in the dressing room. He won’t be like the English managers and want to do all the transfer deals.

“Mancho will be on the training pitch all the time. He won’t waste a second. He won’t have waited until the last minute to bring up Rory Delap’s long throw for Stoke.

“That will have been worked on during intense 20 or 30-minute sessions with the players from the moment he got to City.

“Robbie also likes to work with a small group of players. When he went to Inter Milan as manager he found there were 54 players. He chose the ones he wanted to be with him and another trainer was brought in to deal with the rest.

“Mancini will work with 20 to 23 players, that’s all he needs.”

If Adebayor, who came with a reputation from Arsenal, or Robinho, who has been less than a consistent success with City, do not improve then they will be faced with an angry Mancini.

And if he cannot make them a part of a strong dressing room with no divisions, then they will go. “Mancho will say what he thinks,” said the source. “He is passionate. He has this reputation in Italy. Sometimes he can let his mouth run away with him.

“There will be rows with players. He will criticise his players on the training pitch. He will lose his temper at times. It’s going to be lively at Manchester City with Robbie there.

“The newspapers will like Mancho.”

Mancini has always been interested in coaching and was a big voice in the Sampdoria dressing room when Eriksson was manager.

If Eriksson had given the players a rest and eased off in training, the players would go to Mancini and say they had not done enough tactical work ahead of the next game.

“He was a player at the highest level and a complex character who thought about everything,” said the source.

“Mancini would moan. Bellamy, who is supposed to be a moaner, will be a baby compared to Mancho.

“He will recognise that in Bellamy and he will handle it. Mancini can handle players. But he says what he thinks. It’s not that he gets angry, he just says what he thinks.

“Mancini is very assured, very confident, but he can come across at times as melancholy. There could be fireworks. If Sir Alex Ferguson, at Manchester U***d, decides he is going to try to rile Mancini, he will tell him what to do – concentrate on his own club.”

From the moment he knew he had got the job, Mancini told one of his coaches to get on a plane from Milan to Birmingham on Saturday and watch Stoke away to Aston Villa.

There will be nothing Stoke throw at Manchester City today that will surprise Mancini or his players. They will be prepared for the onslaught. Whether City are totally prepared for Mancini is another question.‘Bellamy is a baby compared to Mancini’



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As usual, my friend 10.Goater strikes.

It is quite a fair, truthfull and comprehensive picture of Bobby's character: definitely the tale of the "30 yards run to turn on a younger player and subsequent undressing upon reproval" is true: I was there seated on tribune. GREAT AGE!!!

In fact, in spite of his natural gift to instantly look after a game picture and developments and his natural capability to gently acquire leadership, I had been quite surprised of his early start of the coaching and very stunned over his success in refurbishing the Inter environment: even if I always loved him over rationality, I would never expected he would have matured that much to be able to stand cool as the role of a successfull field manager requires, expecially in the Italian football whereas, belive me, pretending is natural status of mind and straight-tellers - mainly if they're right - has always been regarded like mad dogs.

Definitely, none in the world will ever be able to dictate anyting to him against his convinced opinion: it has been proved him to strongly suggest some market moves even to late Sampdoria's Chairman, Paolo Mantovani (r.i.p.) who besides having been his second actual father it had been known to be one of the roughest bidder both on his business (crude oil trading, shipowning transportation and refining) and on football in the last half century of the italian history.

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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:26 pm

MANCIO4EVER wrote:
10.Goater_Legend wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/148094/Mancini-s-Man-City-reign-will-be-volatile

ROBERTO MANCINI’s reign at Manchester City is likely to be volatile as he takes on the club’s under-achieving players.


Mancini once got changed at half-time and refused to play the second half of an Italian League game for Sampdoria after a dressing-room row with the club president.

Manager Sven-Goran Eriksson was about to tell a substitute to get ready when another Sampdoria player went into the shower and persuaded him to go out again.

Mancini, 45, says he is older now and has matured, but those who know him think the old fire is still burning and say Manchester City better be prepared for fireworks.

Expensive under-achievers like Emmanuel Adebayor and Robinho can be expected to be targeted by Mancini and if they do not respond they will find themselves outside the group of players with whom he will be working. “Mancho was a god when he was at Sampdoria,” said a source close to Mancini.

“But he could run 30 yards in a game to tell someone off. He turned on a younger player during one match and continued that in the dressing room.

“When he was told he was out of order to turn on a younger player, that was it, Mancho took his shirt off and said he wasn’t playing. It took a team-mate to persuade him to go out again.

“So Mancho dried his hair, put on a new shirt and played.”

Mancini was also known for being difficult as a player, moaning and grumpy. So he should get on with Craig Bellamy at City.

“But also Mancini won’t waste a minute of his time,” said the source. “He is a very good coach. He makes a winning mentality in the dressing room. He won’t be like the English managers and want to do all the transfer deals.

“Mancho will be on the training pitch all the time. He won’t waste a second. He won’t have waited until the last minute to bring up Rory Delap’s long throw for Stoke.

“That will have been worked on during intense 20 or 30-minute sessions with the players from the moment he got to City.

“Robbie also likes to work with a small group of players. When he went to Inter Milan as manager he found there were 54 players. He chose the ones he wanted to be with him and another trainer was brought in to deal with the rest.

“Mancini will work with 20 to 23 players, that’s all he needs.”

If Adebayor, who came with a reputation from Arsenal, or Robinho, who has been less than a consistent success with City, do not improve then they will be faced with an angry Mancini.

And if he cannot make them a part of a strong dressing room with no divisions, then they will go. “Mancho will say what he thinks,” said the source. “He is passionate. He has this reputation in Italy. Sometimes he can let his mouth run away with him.

“There will be rows with players. He will criticise his players on the training pitch. He will lose his temper at times. It’s going to be lively at Manchester City with Robbie there.

“The newspapers will like Mancho.”

Mancini has always been interested in coaching and was a big voice in the Sampdoria dressing room when Eriksson was manager.

If Eriksson had given the players a rest and eased off in training, the players would go to Mancini and say they had not done enough tactical work ahead of the next game.

“He was a player at the highest level and a complex character who thought about everything,” said the source.

“Mancini would moan. Bellamy, who is supposed to be a moaner, will be a baby compared to Mancho.

“He will recognise that in Bellamy and he will handle it. Mancini can handle players. But he says what he thinks. It’s not that he gets angry, he just says what he thinks.

“Mancini is very assured, very confident, but he can come across at times as melancholy. There could be fireworks. If Sir Alex Ferguson, at Manchester U***d, decides he is going to try to rile Mancini, he will tell him what to do – concentrate on his own club.”

From the moment he knew he had got the job, Mancini told one of his coaches to get on a plane from Milan to Birmingham on Saturday and watch Stoke away to Aston Villa.

There will be nothing Stoke throw at Manchester City today that will surprise Mancini or his players. They will be prepared for the onslaught. Whether City are totally prepared for Mancini is another question.‘Bellamy is a baby compared to Mancini’



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As usual, my friend 10.Goater strikes.

It is quite a fair, truthfull and comprehensive picture of Bobby's character: definitely the tale of the "30 yards run to turn on a younger player and subsequent undressing upon reproval" is true: I was there seated on tribune. GREAT AGE!!!

In fact, in spite of his natural gift to instantly look after a game picture and developments and his natural capability to gently acquire leadership, I had been quite surprised of his early start of the coaching and very stunned over his success in refurbishing the Inter environment: even if I always loved him over rationality, I would never expected he would have matured that much to be able to stand cool as the role of a successfull field manager requires, expecially in the Italian football whereas, belive me, pretending is natural status of mind and straight-tellers - mainly if they're right - has always been regarded like mad dogs.

Definitely, none in the world will ever be able to dictate anyting to him against his convinced opinion: it has been proved him to strongly suggest some market moves even to late Sampdoria's Chairman, Paolo Mantovani (r.i.p.) who besides having been his second actual father it had been known to be one of the roughest bidder both on his business (crude oil trading, shipowning transportation and refining) and on football in the last half century of the italian history.


Being a Samdoria fan pal you must look on Mancini as a bit of a God considering he played for you for 15 years in a world-class side, abit like how we look at Colin Bell i'd imangine, how did Mancini and Sven do in there time at your club?.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby RodneyRodney » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:41 am

It's good to have a manager who is tactically intelligent/innovative and can be a bit of a b*stard with prima donnas when needed ; already , after one game , strikes me as having more technical nous and more personality than Boyo
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Spurge » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:41 pm

johnpb78 wrote:
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edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.


Funny you never mentioned this when Hughes was in charge




I think most people always agreed that either with or without Hughes the club as a whole was moving in the right direction, but that regarding Hughes' methods, we never got the best out of Robinho save for 5/6 home games last season. He had Adebayor playing well early doors, but I think in both cases the decent spells for these players coincided with a run of confidence that ran through the whole team.

It seems that as soon as the swagger of the team disappears, so do Robinho and Adebayor. What I think Edge is alluding to is that Mancini's big challenge now is to re-build the player's confidence so that all involved can get that confidence back and play well consistently, clearly for the board to have changed the manager would imply that there has been a lack of confidence in recent weeks/months in being able to achieve the club's ambition with the old manager in charge.

How demoralising for the likes of Robbie/Adebayor to know that even if you put in a shift up front and we score 3, we are still more likely to draw than win because of the defensive disorganisation. If he cracks that nut, he could have quite an easy ride here and become an instant success.

I look forward to seeing how this group react to a different managerial style - really looking forward to it.


I was just illusrating how Edge never mentioned the fact that these two were complacent when Hughes was at the helm simply because it wouldn't have gone hand in hand with his Hughes out spiel. Funny that now we have a new man in charge who he wants to give his backing to he pulls this one out of the bag to defend him - speaks volumes really.

Taking your post on board, again the way you defend Robihno and Adebayor I find odd. You are making excuses for 2 overpaid footballers for not giving their all when things don't go according to plan. These 2 'superstars' should surely be leading by example rather than being allowed to sulk. I really don't understand why we should give these guys a free ride.

One of my mates is an Arsenal season ticket holder and he text me as soon as he heard Adebayor was in talks with City to say good riddnace and good luck with him. We are beginning to see why.

The good news is that if reports are true Mancini won't tolerate slackness from these two (or anyone) so they will either pull their socks up or find themselves on their way.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Vhero » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:55 pm

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edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.[/quote]

Funny you never mentioned this when Hughes was in charge

It's funny how some people can't get over Hughes.
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Swales4ever » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:26 pm

10.Goater_Legend wrote:As usual, my friend 10.Goater strikes.

It is quite a fair, truthfull and comprehensive picture of Bobby's character: definitely the tale of the "30 yards run to turn on a younger player and subsequent undressing upon reproval" is true: I was there seated on tribune. GREAT AGE!!!

In fact, in spite of his natural gift to instantly look after a game picture and developments and his natural capability to gently acquire leadership, I had been quite surprised of his early start of the coaching and very stunned over his success in refurbishing the Inter environment: even if I always loved him over rationality, I would never expected he would have matured that much to be able to stand cool as the role of a successfull field manager requires, expecially in the Italian football whereas, belive me, pretending is natural status of mind and straight-tellers - mainly if they're right - has always been regarded like mad dogs.

Definitely, none in the world will ever be able to dictate anyting to him against his convinced opinion: it has been proved him to strongly suggest some market moves even to late Sampdoria's Chairman, Paolo Mantovani (r.i.p.) who besides having been his second actual father it had been known to be one of the roughest bidder both on his business (crude oil trading, shipowning transportation and refining) and on football in the last half century of the italian history.


Being a Samdoria fan pal you must look on Mancini as a bit of a God considering he played for you for 15 years in a world-class side, abit like how we look at Colin Bell i'd imangine, how did Mancini and Sven do in there time at your club?.[/quote]

Well Joe,
I do indeed pal: unfortunatately I only know Colin's as a name amongst the brightest champs, without having had the pleasure of living myself with everlasting images and feelings out of him like U did as well I did out of Mancio.
The Rector fm Torsby is pure GENIUS and nobody won't ever match with his blend of colture, intelligence, sharpness, committment and style: the football I saw he made play at Roma and mostly stunning at youghsters Fiorentina are masterpieces unmatched, on my opinion, neither by the 1974 "Clockwork Orange" fitted with all those Hollander super-superstars.
Mancini owes him a very lot as he's the Master patissier who blended and cooked all the very gifts of him in a superb cake wich even a devoted fan like I am had never expected, mainly teaching him how to develop and strenghten the weaknesses of his straigh, open and complex character. The two are true friends shall be committed each other forever.

Insofar the 4 Sampdoria's years (1992-1997) are concerned, they were the ultimates when italian football turned from wealthy gentlemen's runned clubs to the actual corporation age: the squad rooster had already started to turn overaged and the son of our late belowed Chairman couldn't efford to refurbish it: so that Sven had never in the chanche for climbing to the top.
Nevertheless didn't fail to deliver some masterstrokes of the greatest himself, like acquiring Ruud Gullit released as free by an unwise A.c. Milan and made him play as CB commited to be a sort of director of play from the back: the result was hugely brillant and we enjoied some sparkling and wise football featured under the partnership of such a couple of leaders on field - there also lied the actual reason of Roberto's later divorce from his Club's flagship: that Sven's second season he felt sure to deliver the second Leage title, just with a little couple of enforcement by january within the undersized rooster of 16, that loosed points due some enjures and red cards. His fight up to obtain a midfielder and a CB didn't succeed and relationship with his brotherlike friend, turned to be a chairman worried about the balancesheet, deteriorated seriously. By April Roberto and Ruud gave up the fight for the title and contented to deliver the Cup.
Some blucircled mates disagreed and still now fail to understand blaming Roberto to be unloylist: but this is the very Mancini. He's a victory greedy sportman - not the son cheating the brother to gets the smart car he cannot efford but the one who never rest shouting to committ 110 % the family to success.

However, while I am proud you prompted me to share some old feelings, I do prefer to point out myself to the place that guest me: the Blue stuff.
I never get married as I'm a free bastard lad so that, according to some colture of the world our benefactor comes from, I sencerely feel that starting fm dec. 21st I have two beloved wifes... :-)

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"
5. ignore the cunt. he's on permantent wum mission. only TIDs may know City

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Spurge » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:54 pm

Vhero wrote:
Spurge wrote:
edge275 wrote:An interesting read. I am quietly confident he will be able to get the best out of players like Adebayor and Robinho.

What I found interesting was in the Sylvinho interview with Robinho interrupting I don't know if it was a bit of language barrier but he said "The target is now the top 4" which kind of came across to me that he's much happy with that rather than the bollocks Hughes was spouting about gelling and 'getting things right' etc.

If they both respond to Mancini's methods considering they're the most talented players in our squad would be a humongous boost for us.

I think they are both affected by complacency at times but if they see the club is heading in the right direction and that we can match their ability with our ambitions they'll buckle down and give us their all.[/quote]

Funny you never mentioned this when Hughes was in charge

It's funny how some people can't get over Hughes.


It's got nothing to do with 'getting over Hughes' what is funny or should I say laughable is how a poster suddenly picks up on something which by his own terminology suggests has been an issue for sometime but had chosen not to mention until now.

I will back City through thick and thin and will be 100% behind whoever is at the helm with no 'hidden agendas' unlike some.

Perhaps you chose to comment in the way that you did because I wasn't kissing Robihnos arse - who knows? Tell me, do you think the best paid players should put in the extra to show a good example to the rest of the squad or do you think it's acceptable to turn up when it suits? Do you think players like Robihno earn the right to walk down the tunnel when being subbed and disrespect the bench?
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Re: Mancini's Man City reign will be volatile

Postby Chinners » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:01 pm

Sylvino is obviously no lover of Leslie, not getting a game might have something to do with it a la Petrov. Sad they feel the need to come out with stuff rather than buckling down to get a place in the side.

imo, Spurge makes a good point, noneof this was said from the player whilst Leslie was in charge. Imaterial now of course but players like that make me wary to be honest. He'll be saying the same if Mancini goes before he does.
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