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Mancini's immediate impact

Postby john@staustell » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:48 am

In only 2 games, with only a week's snowy training, Robbie Manc seems to have spotted some basic things that make us a lot better, even with 7 players or so out injured. I'm sure there are others, but here's a first take, in no particular order:

1) Gareth Barry - back to his usual self under the right instructions
2) Let the other team come on - we have the players to score on lightning breaks from a defensive, Italian-style position
3) All that attack-at-all-costs philosophy repeatedly left our guys completely out of ideas against a 10-man defence.
4) Rule number 1 - if you're in the lead, dont go charging forward and leave yourself open
5) Confidence seems to be oozing through the squad already, even folk like Gaz and Petrov who were dumped by Les. Even Robbie looked half-decent for 10 minutes last night!
6) If you cant do anything else - keep the ball!!! Not lump it forward.

Obviously there is plenty of time for setbacks, but I cant wait until he gets some time with the squad!!
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby s1ty m » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:50 am

His impact? Easy!

We look an entirely different side.

City of old would have crumbled last night. These dogs of war with jet heels and a side salad of flair are a very handy team. And depleted by all sorts of things too.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby john@staustell » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:51 am

s1ty m wrote:His impact? Easy!

We look an entirely different side.

City of old would have crumbled last night. These dogs of war with jet heels and a side salad of flair are a very handy team. And depleted by all sorts of things too.


For sure the Stoke and Wolves games would've been : DRAW, DRAW
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Chinners » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:52 am

New manager syndronne ... lets hope it lasts until May
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby s1ty m » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:01 am

john@staustell wrote:
s1ty m wrote:His impact? Easy!

We look an entirely different side.

City of old would have crumbled last night. These dogs of war with jet heels and a side salad of flair are a very handy team. And depleted by all sorts of things too.


For sure the Stoke and Wolves games would've been : DRAW, DRAW


Maybe John, I fancy we might have got beat last night but for the tactical intervention to stem the midfield flow after 20 minutes of wolves huff and puff.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Vhero » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:03 am

john@staustell wrote:
s1ty m wrote:His impact? Easy!

We look an entirely different side.

City of old would have crumbled last night. These dogs of war with jet heels and a side salad of flair are a very handy team. And depleted by all sorts of things too.


For sure the Stoke and Wolves games would've been : DRAW, DRAW

Agreed mate in fact I think we would have struggled to make it a draw last night as Wolves really came at our defence and under Hughes we might have crumbled.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby razor400 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:38 am

Nice to see a lack of hoofing it last night and that break when Carlito fluffed it was some of the best one touch football I have ever seen, ever.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby 13021J » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:53 pm

Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:26 pm

13021J wrote:Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.


Robinho is just coming back from an injury that kept him off the pitch for months. He's probably played less than 3 hours of competitive football since his return, and to consider jettisoning him if he doesn't do something remarkable in his next outing is shortsighted to say the least. And i'm sure Mancini will work to get what Robinho has to offer over the next 6 weeks and then make a decision about how he fits in with the side. No need to get as spastic as the media about Robinho. Let him play for a bit and see how things shape up.

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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Wooders » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:28 pm

Chinners wrote:New manager syndronne ... lets hope it lasts until May


here here although I have to say the tactics have all been spot on from Bobby Manc so far
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby 13021J » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:33 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
13021J wrote:Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.


Robinho is just coming back from an injury that kept him off the pitch for months. He's probably played less than 3 hours of competitive football since his return, and to consider jettisoning him if he doesn't do something remarkable in his next outing is shortsighted to say the least. And i'm sure Mancini will work to get what Robinho has to offer over the next 6 weeks and then make a decision about how he fits in with the side. No need to get as spastic as the media about Robinho. Let him play for a bit and see how things shape up.

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You make some good points but I think its up to Robinho to make the effort not Mancini, he puts it in for Brazil but not City for some reason. I hope Robinho can become the fulcrum of our side but its a long way off at the moment. There will have to be some interchange between Bellers and Robbie during January due to the frequency of the games and the media will then fabricate lies about arguments and transfer requests so you are right that we should allow time and Mancini to work there magic.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Swales4ever » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:45 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
13021J wrote:Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.


Robinho is just coming back from an injury that kept him off the pitch for months. He's probably played less than 3 hours of competitive football since his return, and to consider jettisoning him if he doesn't do something remarkable in his next outing is shortsighted to say the least. And i'm sure Mancini will work to get what Robinho has to offer over the next 6 weeks and then make a decision about how he fits in with the side. No need to get as spastic as the media about Robinho. Let him play for a bit and see how things shape up.

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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Bingo Lewis » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:55 pm

What I'm loving about Mancini is that rather waiting to see if summat fucks up like Hughes did, then trying to sort it, he just squashes it before it happens. He looks like a top manager to me, but only time will tell. Exciting though.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:50 pm

13021J wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
13021J wrote:Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.


Robinho is just coming back from an injury that kept him off the pitch for months. He's probably played less than 3 hours of competitive football since his return, and to consider jettisoning him if he doesn't do something remarkable in his next outing is shortsighted to say the least. And i'm sure Mancini will work to get what Robinho has to offer over the next 6 weeks and then make a decision about how he fits in with the side. No need to get as spastic as the media about Robinho. Let him play for a bit and see how things shape up.

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You make some good points but I think its up to Robinho to make the effort not Mancini, he puts it in for Brazil but not City for some reason. I hope Robinho can become the fulcrum of our side but its a long way off at the moment. There will have to be some interchange between Bellers and Robbie during January due to the frequency of the games and the media will then fabricate lies about arguments and transfer requests so you are right that we should allow time and Mancini to work there magic.



I don't agree that Robbie puts in more effort for Brazil or plays consistantly better for them. He's exactly the same imo wherever he plays. Blows hot & cold. We need more hot & hopefully Mancini can get it from him.

I'm hoping Mancini keeps things going as well as they've started under him but we started the season as good or better & then hit a moderate patch of results so nothing can be taken for granted.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby CityGer » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:54 pm

Bingo Lewis wrote:What I'm loving about Mancini is that rather waiting to see if summat fucks up like Hughes did, then trying to sort it, he just squashes it before it happens. He looks like a top manager to me, but only time will tell. Exciting though.


Agreed. He seems very sure of himself and makes quick decisions with no messing about. Changed our formation early doors last and had Garrido on when he thought we were exposed. Good to see decisions made without the pondering and 'wait and see' attitude.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Slim » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:27 pm

Chinners wrote:New manager syndronne ... lets hope it lasts until May


I was thinking that, let's wait till they stop asking him about the weather in Manchester in his post match before we start saying he is a god send. Pearce went on a 13 match unbeaten run early in his tenure so even the god awful can win a match when they hit the refresh button.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:18 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
13021J wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
13021J wrote:Tactical maestro or simply new manager syndrome? The jury is still out.

The Boro game is an interesting challenge for Mancio. Does he rest some key players for the semi and risk an embarrassing and honeymoon-period-ending loss to a struggling lower league team, or play a full strength side and look to keep the momentum flowing?

Personally I hope he rests Bellers and unleashes him in the semi. If Robbie doesnt perform against Boro then Im not sure we can carry him anymore.


Robinho is just coming back from an injury that kept him off the pitch for months. He's probably played less than 3 hours of competitive football since his return, and to consider jettisoning him if he doesn't do something remarkable in his next outing is shortsighted to say the least. And i'm sure Mancini will work to get what Robinho has to offer over the next 6 weeks and then make a decision about how he fits in with the side. No need to get as spastic as the media about Robinho. Let him play for a bit and see how things shape up.

cheers


You make some good points but I think its up to Robinho to make the effort not Mancini, he puts it in for Brazil but not City for some reason. I hope Robinho can become the fulcrum of our side but its a long way off at the moment. There will have to be some interchange between Bellers and Robbie during January due to the frequency of the games and the media will then fabricate lies about arguments and transfer requests so you are right that we should allow time and Mancini to work there magic.



I don't agree that Robbie puts in more effort for Brazil or plays consistantly better for them. He's exactly the same imo wherever he plays. Blows hot & cold. We need more hot & hopefully Mancini can get it from him.

I'm hoping Mancini keeps things going as well as they've started under him but we started the season as good or better & then hit a moderate patch of results so nothing can be taken for granted.


took the words right out of my mouth Ted on all points. Great post.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:14 pm

CityGer wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What I'm loving about Mancini is that rather waiting to see if summat fucks up like Hughes did, then trying to sort it, he just squashes it before it happens. He looks like a top manager to me, but only time will tell. Exciting though.


Agreed. He seems very sure of himself and makes quick decisions with no messing about. Changed our formation early doors last and had Garrido on when he thought we were exposed. Good to see decisions made without the pondering and 'wait and see' attitude.


I agree, you can really see the difference in the team since that fuck up was sacked. I really think we have a shot of that top 4 spot more than ever now with Mancini in the hot seat.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Lev Bronstein » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:05 am

I like the way he doesn't play down our overall chances for doing well this year. He's telling the world, and I'd guess the players "You can win, you can be the best team in the country, now get out there and do it."

Something about his confidence reminds me of Malcolm Allison in his pomp.
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Re: Mancini's immediate impact

Postby Blackadder » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:41 am

Lev Bronstein wrote:I like the way he doesn't play down our overall chances for doing well this year. He's telling the world, and I'd guess the players "You can win, you can be the best team in the country, now get out there and do it."

Something about his confidence reminds me of Malcolm Allison in his pomp.



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