kompany - trading on past glory?

[Cocacolajojo1]

Demichelis turned a routine clearance for a 12 year old into a goal for Hull

Thank you. I thought I was going crazy when I saw the replays. Alright, I have no idea what Hart is doing either but MDM has no idea Hart is coming and still fluffs it. FUBAR.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

[Hazy2]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

No Kompany at Stoke, season over, he has I have said enough for anyone to see this WAS a dip, he is on his way back to form. Under 30 and wrote off is a joke IMHO. Support is not a crime, blues need to remember that at the Quiet Zone.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

No Kompany at Stoke, season over, he has I have said enough for anyone to see this WAS a dip, he is on his way back to form. Under 30 and wrote off is a joke IMHO. Support is not a crime, blues need to remember that at the Quiet Zone.

Our season is probably over due to his fucking fuckups FOR FUCKS SAKE !!......how anyone, with even white fucking stick and a labrador cannot see that it was HIM that lost us numerous points is beyond me !! To say no Kompany for Stoke and our season is over is mind boggling....I give up!

[Ted Hughes]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

You have just transferred Lescott into Kompany.

People make mistakes. A goal can happen from any of them. Vs Boro, everyone was involved, v Chelsea, Vinny should have reacted quicker. However, so should Demichelis. If Vinny's bloke hadn't have scored, Demi's man would have.

You have decided it's Kompany that's getting it, so no matter what the rest do, we'll just look at his part. The goal v Hull, was down to Demichelis, just as the goal v QPR was down to Lescott. Nobody gives a fuck what happened in either case previously. It was a simple job to defend both, & in both cases they fucked up. If Saturday it had been Lescott in Demichelis position, you would be fucking slaughtering him, & I would have no defence for him.

I sit looking side on at that, & you could see it coming as he dawdled towards the box. He wasn't switched on, it was fucking shite, & it wasn't Kompany's fault.

This time last year, the thread would have been all about Demichelis, & some of his recent horrors would be dissected. It was Feb last year when we lost at home to Chelsea & got fucking crucified for trying to play midfield on his own. Now he fucks up badly, but he's not the whipping boy at the moment, so it's ok. Just as it is every time Zabaleta costs us.

This time next year, it will be someone else & VK will be the dogs' bollocks again. In between now & then, we will have a Mangala witchunt & probably another Demichelis one, once Stuart Brennan realises how shit he's been. eventually, if he doesn't improve, Zabba will get it.

[Goaters 103]

If we adopted the attitude of "no Kompany - season over" then surely we'd have given up on many seasons past when hes been out injured, often. Alternatively we could have said "No Silva/Aguero/Toure - season over" this year and seasons past too.

He's been shite this past month and was awful again on Saturday, despite what Ted believes. In injury time alone he trapped the ball - Mark Hateley style - out for a Hull goal-kick when we were in their penalty box, & then barged in to a Hull player to give away a stupid and needless free kick which effectively saw out time and promptly argued what was a stonewall foul. For the goal we conceded you can point the finger at Demichelis, but then again you could also point it at Hart for the madcap initial rush from goal which opened up the net for Huddlestone to shoot at; then you had Fernandinho's Tinkerbell the fairy attempt to clear it, and Zabaleta also failing to deal with it. In short, there was plenty of blame to go around at yet another mickey mouse goal we pissed away.

Pellegrini will pick Kompany, guaranteed, but my $0.02 is that he should be sat down along with Zabba. I can see both sides of the argument to play him or not but its a game of opinions and no player should be above analysis and its been consistently poor from our captain in all his games back. Is he fully fit? The petulancy and needless lunging for balls that's crept in to his game needs removing and quickly.

[Ted Hughes]

If we adopted the attitude of "no Kompany - season over" then surely we'd have given up on many seasons past when hes been out injured, often. Alternatively we could have said "No Silva/Aguero/Toure - season over" this year and seasons past too.

He's been shite this past month and was awful again on Saturday, despite what Ted believes. In injury time alone he trapped the ball - Mark Hateley style - out for a Hull goal-kick when we were in their penalty box, & then barged in to a Hull player to give away a stupid and needless free kick which effectively saw out time and promptly argued what was a stonewall foul. For the goal we conceded you can point the finger at Demichelis, but then again you could also point it at Hart for the madcap initial rush from goal which opened up the net for Huddlestone to shoot at; then you had Fernandinho's Tinkerbell the fairy attempt to clear it, and Zabaleta also failing to deal with it. In short, there was plenty of blame to go around at yet another mickey mouse goal we pissed away.

Pellegrini will pick Kompany, guaranteed, but my $0.02 is that he should be sat down along with Zabba. I can see both sides of the argument to play him or not but its a game of opinions and no player should be above analysis and its been consistently poor from our captain in all his games back. Is he fully fit? The petulancy and needless lunging for balls that's crept in to his game needs removing and quickly.

'Ted believes' they were all shite, not that Kompany was good.

Ted thought Kompany was shite.

[Slim]

The problem with people using "he's coming back from injury" as an excuse is he only has two states, "coming back from injury" or "injured".

[Hazy2]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

No Kompany at Stoke, season over, he has I have said enough for anyone to see this WAS a dip, he is on his way back to form. Under 30 and wrote off is a joke IMHO. Support is not a crime, blues need to remember that at the Quiet Zone.

Our season is probably over due to his fucking fuckups FOR FUCKS SAKE !!......how anyone, with even white fucking stick and a labrador cannot see that it was HIM that lost us numerous points is beyond me !! To say no Kompany for Stoke and our season is over is mind boggling....I give up!

Carl you need a lie down mate, Vinny has had a mare I get it. If he is dropped at Stoke IMHO and I am going to the fucking game, we will struggle and get bullied even more than we might. Give up like every other fucker who sits on his hands at the Quiet Zone no, 10 points behind it is over, Am I happy NO fucking livid with the shit recently, zABBA CRAP, Hart odd as fuck week to week Fernando, shite, Silva in and out !!! I did not even bother posting after Boro, I am not even booking Barca away until after the 1st leg for obvious reasons like we might get smashed !!. Am I happy with Vinny and the charming Manager and all the wankers in the 5.2 mill a year minimum club NO THEY ARE CUNTS, BUT I AM STUCK WITH IT SO I SAY GET BEHIND HIM THEM AND AGAIN GIVE THEM A FECKING CHANCE AGAIN, NOT THAT I A M HAPPY TOO.

[Herb]

IMHO half the issues we suffer in defence are caused directly by the fact that the defenders have little confidence in our calamity of a keeper - Joe Hart is a complete liability, he's clumsy & unpredictable and that makes for a nervous defence.
If we had a decent keeper we'd have at another 9 or 10 points in the bag and everyone would be praising us.

Vinny may be having a poor spell but Hart's just poor.

[iwasthere2012]

The actual facts almost always get left behind.

There is absolutely no case for dropping him whatsoever..

Ive only just stopped laughing.............Kompany was responsible for us dropping points in all the fuckign matches hes been back in since the injury......he was directly responsible for all the points lost prior to the Hull game and if you actually see the build up to MDM fuckup, there is Kompany fuckign up before the ball gets to MDM.

Like you said....people only want to highlight what suits them, like you have done.

No Kompany at Stoke, season over, he has I have said enough for anyone to see this WAS a dip, he is on his way back to form. Under 30 and wrote off is a joke IMHO. Support is not a crime, blues need to remember that at the Quiet Zone.

Our season is probably over due to his fucking fuckups FOR FUCKS SAKE !!......how anyone, with even white fucking stick and a labrador cannot see that it was HIM that lost us numerous points is beyond me !! To say no Kompany for Stoke and our season is over is mind boggling....I give up!

Carl you need a lie down mate, Vinny has had a mare I get it. If he is dropped at Stoke IMHO and I am going to the fucking game, we will struggle and get bullied even more than we might. Give up like every other fucker who sits on his hands at the Quiet Zone no, 10 points behind it is over, Am I happy NO fucking livid with the shit recently, zABBA CRAP, Hart odd as fuck week to week Fernando, shite, Silva in and out !!! I did not even bother posting after Boro, I am not even booking Barca away until after the 1st leg for obvious reasons like we might get smashed !!. Am I happy with Vinny and the charming Manager and all the wankers in the 5.2 mill a year minimum club NO THEY ARE CUNTS, BUT I AM STUCK WITH IT SO I SAY GET BEHIND HIM THEM AND AGAIN GIVE THEM A FECKING CHANCE AGAIN, NOT THAT I A M HAPPY TOO.

Now this I can relate to. I don't even have to agree with your analysis Hazy because the point is everyone of us look at the games and comes up with instant answers as to who's at fault or why we are looking like dross at the moment. But as you point out, it is what it is and we are not the manager. The 'job' of the fan or supporter as I see it, has always been to get behind whatever team is put out in a sky blue jersey. We don't get paid to do the managers job, no matter how much we may feel we'd do it better.
I never understand why bad runs of form always seem to get put on the shoulders of one or two individuals. I'm not disagreeing about who is playing shite and who is not, merely stating that I always understood football to be a team game. If we are constantly leaking soft goals then there is a collective at fault. If the manager is using the wrong tactics, if people are unsure of their roles, if people are incapable of performing their roles, if the strengths of the team are not being utilised correctly, etc., then ultimately it will fall on the neck of the management team. We cannot change any of that. We have no influence over those kinds of decisions no matter how much we think we are right.
What we as fans can influence as part of the team, if you consider yourself to be part of the team, is lifting the players when they need it most and this includes individuals that need a confidence lift, not a mullering from their own fans.
Before anyone else points it out to me, I know I'm not in a position to pontificate on this subject as I'm not part of the support turning up week in week out at home and away, and I understand from past experience that when you are investing as heavily as some of you do then you feel you have a right to say what you want. And you're right. You do have the right to demand more. But as much as we exchange opinions amongst ourselves as to who's to blame for the latest shambles of a goal, Hazy is right. You can be angry yes, but in my opinion, there is only one way to support the team when you attend a game. That is to support the team, whatever the outcome. You may or may not believe in the effect of the 12th man, but it is certainly better than being berated by your own following. It's only human nature.

[Hazy2]

Are they all trading on past season glory, Barca will be the Baromoter, I hope not, that would be crazy. Stoke away might just be the corner turned or shit hits the City Fans.

[JamieMCFC]

The problem with people using "he's coming back from injury" as an excuse is he only has two states, "coming back from injury" or "injured".

People seem to forget this. I don't know if he comes back to soon from injury or if his body can no longer hold up or if he just has bad genetics.

[Nigels Tackle]

media sound bites and promo work aside...
he's not even a good leader out on the park. never has been imo but his performances masked over this fact. now his game has gone to shit, he really should be benched

[Hazy2]

Kompany, average leader I has carried enough around him over the years to be given the benefit of the doubt, some fans should know better. Benching a captain is a big deal. if he was 34 and past it fine late 20's fuck me that is crazy shit bearing in mind we have no Yaya, Jovetic is surplus, Fernando hooked, Zabba in dire form, we need players to step up or it is wheels off.

[Hazy2]

Kompany, average leader I has carried enough around him over the years to be given the benefit of the doubt, some fans should know better. Benching a captain is a big deal. if he was 34 and past it fine late 20's fuck me that is crazy shit bearing in mind we have no Yaya, Jovetic is surplus, Fernando hooked, Zabba in dire form, we need players to step up or it is wheels off.

meant to add he is an average leader amongst nt so many other candidates for the arm band or leaders.

[Wonderwall]

Kompany, average leader I has carried enough around him over the years to be given the benefit of the doubt, some fans should know better. Benching a captain is a big deal. if he was 34 and past it fine late 20's fuck me that is crazy shit bearing in mind we have no Yaya, Jovetic is surplus, Fernando hooked, Zabba in dire form, we need players to step up or it is wheels off.

meant to add he is an average leader amongst nt so many other candidates for the arm band or leaders.

I would personally give it to Milner if Kompany was not on the pitch

[iwasthere2012]

Kompany, average leader I has carried enough around him over the years to be given the benefit of the doubt, some fans should know better. Benching a captain is a big deal. if he was 34 and past it fine late 20's fuck me that is crazy shit bearing in mind we have no Yaya, Jovetic is surplus, Fernando hooked, Zabba in dire form, we need players to step up or it is wheels off.

meant to add he is an average leader amongst nt so many other candidates for the arm band or leaders.

Maybe Zabba, but he's doing as bad apparently.

Impractical in the long run but I wonder how MDM would be.
I'm not advocating taking the arm-band off Vinny yet though.

[Hazy2]

Kompany, average leader I has carried enough around him over the years to be given the benefit of the doubt, some fans should know better. Benching a captain is a big deal. if he was 34 and past it fine late 20's fuck me that is crazy shit bearing in mind we have no Yaya, Jovetic is surplus, Fernando hooked, Zabba in dire form, we need players to step up or it is wheels off.

meant to add he is an average leader amongst nt so many other candidates for the arm band or leaders.

I would personally give it to Milner if Kompany was not on the pitch

Good shout but 12 weeks from out of contract, you also lose Vinny as well WW...

[Ted Hughes]

Have a load of you all got together in the pub & decided to post a load of stuff slagging off Kompany just to take the fucking piss out of the rest of us ?

You have, haven't you ?

You're all sat there at a big table downing Holtses' & thinking up fucking bollocks to post next:: "I'll go on & say he was shit in 2012 .." "I've aleady sort of done that one.." " Well I'll quote you then, & we'll say he made Savic nervous.." "Yeah go on!"