Jovetic Not Happy

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Good to see that people have finally realised I was right about Jovetic.

did you say that he's a quality footballer?

No he's an absolute fraud.

We had people saying that when he signed, and you didn't register for another 3 months, are you aware time is linear and only works in one direction?

For my money Slim, that's a sardonic aphorism of the highest order; completely unanswerable to boot.

Well done to you for the wording and delivery.

I would have loved to make such a comment.

[Slim]

I don't think Jovetic has been a success at City, but equally he has not been a failure either.

He was injured a lot last season. Less than most of our other attackers this season.

He doesn't lose the ball any more than the other forwards, as people are accusing him of, & this season he scores at a higher rate per minutes on the pitch, than Dzeko or Bony. He is also correct in his claims that he played a part in getting us through to the qualifying stages, & when he retires, he will probably be able to look back on a much more effective career in Eurpoean games than Dzeko.

Interesting piece from Scholes the other day talking about how if he didn't take risks & try stuff in games, Ferguson used to drop him.

People complain that we play too many safe passes, then we get a bloke who tries stuff, & a decent amount of it results in goals or efforts on goal, & we slag him off for it.

We have gone for Dzeko because he is the safe option, which is fair enough, but it's not deserved. Jovetic deserves to be in the squad; he's right.

Not sure who's slagging him off, well apart from fake Ant, but it's clearly a logistics problem. Having played three weeks without a striker, I think Dzeko is the safer option fitness-wise and that's the start and end of the reasons behind the choice.

If he wants to throw a hissy and chuck his toys from the pram then that's up to him, but if I wasn't a complete moron who was ruled entirely by my self-victimization I'd probably say "fair enough boss, I see your point".

WHAT HE DESERVES???

WHAT HE FUCKING DESERVES???

11 goals in 32 appearances over 2 years, he hasn't proven fuck all to City, to Pellers or to the footballing world.

69 goals in 172 appearances over 5 years....no no, you deserve to be ahead of this guy.

96 goals in 148 appearances over 4 years...may as well say you deserve to be ahead of this guy too.

No idea what you are going on about, but Jovetic is having a much better season than Dzeko or Kolarov & deserves to be in the squad.

Pellegrini is banking on Dzeko playing as he has sometimes played in the past, rather than how he has played this season, where Jovetic has played much better than him, worked harder & scored more goals, as well as made more assists.

As I said, that's fair enough, playing the safe option & it may prove to be the right one. But no way in a million fucking years does Dzeko deserve it on this season. It's not even close.

And I'm not disagreeing with you, but answer me this....

In tomorrow's training session, one of our strikers gets injured....who's your money on?

Where is the point including a player who may well be injured when the game comes around?

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

I'll re-do that.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't think Jovetic has been a success at City, but equally he has not been a failure either.

He was injured a lot last season. Less than most of our other attackers this season.

He doesn't lose the ball any more than the other forwards, as people are accusing him of, & this season he scores at a higher rate per minutes on the pitch, than Dzeko or Bony. He is also correct in his claims that he played a part in getting us through to the qualifying stages, & when he retires, he will probably be able to look back on a much more effective career in Eurpoean games than Dzeko.

Interesting piece from Scholes the other day talking about how if he didn't take risks & try stuff in games, Ferguson used to drop him.

People complain that we play too many safe passes, then we get a bloke who tries stuff, & a decent amount of it results in goals or efforts on goal, & we slag him off for it.

We have gone for Dzeko because he is the safe option, which is fair enough, but it's not deserved. Jovetic deserves to be in the squad; he's right.

Not sure who's slagging him off, well apart from fake Ant, but it's clearly a logistics problem. Having played three weeks without a striker, I think Dzeko is the safer option fitness-wise and that's the start and end of the reasons behind the choice.

If he wants to throw a hissy and chuck his toys from the pram then that's up to him, but if I wasn't a complete moron who was ruled entirely by my self-victimization I'd probably say "fair enough boss, I see your point".

WHAT HE DESERVES???

WHAT HE FUCKING DESERVES???

11 goals in 32 appearances over 2 years, he hasn't proven fuck all to City, to Pellers or to the footballing world.

69 goals in 172 appearances over 5 years....no no, you deserve to be ahead of this guy.

96 goals in 148 appearances over 4 years...may as well say you deserve to be ahead of this guy too.

No idea what you are going on about, but Jovetic is having a much better season than Dzeko or Kolarov & deserves to be in the squad.

Pellegrini is banking on Dzeko playing as he has sometimes played in the past, rather than how he has played this season, where Jovetic has played much better than him, worked harder & scored more goals, as well as made more assists.

As I said, that's fair enough, playing the safe option & it may prove to be the right one. But no way in a million fucking years does Dzeko deserve it on this season. It's not even close.

And I'm not disagreeing with you, but answer me this....

In tomorrow's training session, one of our strikers gets injured....who's your money on?

Where is the point including a player who may well be injured when the game comes around?

Well sorry to say; it's Aguero tbh.

But I understand the argument that jovetic has been injured in the past. Dzeko has also been injured & shit this season.

The gamble is; Dzeko becomes unshit or Jovetic stays fit.

I'd actually say it's 50/50. If Dzeko gets time on the pitch & scores, he may become a serious asset. If he doesn't, then suddenly gets on v Barca, you just don't know what you'll get, or even if he'll bother to run about.

But the other factor is Kolarov. He's been fucking terrible but we are banking on a couple of crosses or free kicks making a bigger contribution than Jovetic would have done. As a defender, you could fill the spot with Caballero & he'd give him a run for his money.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

I don't think Jovetic has been a success at City, but equally he has not been a failure either.

He was injured a lot last season. Less than most of our other attackers this season.

He doesn't lose the ball any more than the other forwards, as people are accusing him of, & this season he scores at a higher rate per minutes on the pitch, than Dzeko or Bony. He is also correct in his claims that he played a part in getting us through to the qualifying stages, & when he retires, he will probably be able to look back on a much more effective career in Eurpoean games than Dzeko.

Interesting piece from Scholes the other day talking about how if he didn't take risks & try stuff in games, Ferguson used to drop him.

People complain that we play too many safe passes, then we get a bloke who tries stuff, & a decent amount of it results in goals or efforts on goal, & we slag him off for it.

We have gone for Dzeko because he is the safe option, which is fair enough, but it's not deserved. Jovetic deserves to be in the squad; he's right.

As a slight aside. With regard to the increasing aversion in football to taking risks you need look no further than George Best's purported finest hour in a game away to Benfica in the European Cup in 1966 (which can be found on Youtube, I expect). I remember watching it a few years ago and thinking 'Christ, he keeps giving the ball away', yet he managed to contribute two goals and some wonderful skill to the game. You can imagine a modern crowd groaning every time he gave the ball away, and mutterings in the pub after the game that he needs to improve his passing or he'll end up at Stoke (okay, slight exaggeration). Whatever the case, there'd have been pressure on him from the stands to subdue his more adventurous side (on the pitch, anyhow).

[Ted Hughes]

I don't think Jovetic has been a success at City, but equally he has not been a failure either.

He was injured a lot last season. Less than most of our other attackers this season.

He doesn't lose the ball any more than the other forwards, as people are accusing him of, & this season he scores at a higher rate per minutes on the pitch, than Dzeko or Bony. He is also correct in his claims that he played a part in getting us through to the qualifying stages, & when he retires, he will probably be able to look back on a much more effective career in Eurpoean games than Dzeko.

Interesting piece from Scholes the other day talking about how if he didn't take risks & try stuff in games, Ferguson used to drop him.

People complain that we play too many safe passes, then we get a bloke who tries stuff, & a decent amount of it results in goals or efforts on goal, & we slag him off for it.

We have gone for Dzeko because he is the safe option, which is fair enough, but it's not deserved. Jovetic deserves to be in the squad; he's right.

As a slight aside. With regard to the increasing aversion in football to taking risks you need look no further than George Best's purported finest hour in a game away to Benfica in the European Cup in 1966 (which can be found on Youtube, I expect). I remember watching it a few years ago and thinking 'Christ, he keeps giving the ball away', yet he managed to contribute two goals and some wonderful skill to the game. You can imagine a modern crowd groaning every time he gave the ball away, and mutterings in the pub after the game that he needs to improve his passing or he'll end up at Stoke (okay, slight exaggeration). Whatever the case, there'd have been pressure on him from the stands to subdue his more adventurous side (on the pitch, anyhow).

I think we have a tradition of whinging when people try stuff.

Not just flicks & tricks, but also shooting etc. Even at the EDS game, there were moans & groans when one of the kids burst through & hit a shot from 20 yards over the bar. We complain that nobody shoots, then moan when they do. If it's blatantly stupid attempt at 40 yard volley, by Gael Clichy, then fair enough, but if Jovetic tries a bit of a backheel. So be it.

If he does a trick which fucks up ten times a game, then fair enough, but it's actually 2 or 3. People on here then exaggerate that into that he gives the ball away all the time trying tricks. He doesn't.

[Moonchesteri]

I don't think Jovetic has been a success at City, but equally he has not been a failure either.

He was injured a lot last season. Less than most of our other attackers this season.

He doesn't lose the ball any more than the other forwards, as people are accusing him of, & this season he scores at a higher rate per minutes on the pitch, than Dzeko or Bony. He is also correct in his claims that he played a part in getting us through to the qualifying stages, & when he retires, he will probably be able to look back on a much more effective career in Eurpoean games than Dzeko.

Interesting piece from Scholes the other day talking about how if he didn't take risks & try stuff in games, Ferguson used to drop him.

People complain that we play too many safe passes, then we get a bloke who tries stuff, & a decent amount of it results in goals or efforts on goal, & we slag him off for it.

We have gone for Dzeko because he is the safe option, which is fair enough, but it's not deserved. Jovetic deserves to be in the squad; he's right.

that is really strange isn't it. I never complain when he shoots from 25 yards even if it hits the corner flag. at least he gave it a go instead of playing the safe sideways pass and standing still watching what happens next


oh and I still think we should've dropped Willy. it would've been a small risk but in reality what are the odds he would get on the field?

[South Stand Balti]

I have no problem with Jovetic being left out simply because he has mystery injuries so often. It was a no brained really. If I was MP and Jovetic asked me why he had been left out, I would ask him why has he missed so many games through injury when the scans showed nothing. If I was Jovetic I may retort by saying why did u buy me then, knowing I had a massive reputation in Italy for having a low pain threshold? I do think he is an extremely gifted footballer, much more so than Dzeko for example but I don't trust him at all.

[Bluedj]

OK, he hasn't been a barn storming success, but he has made a lot of telling contributions and scored some important goals

Dzecko, doesn't like to play when it's wet and cold, he goes shit from Oct to March, then, when it warms up,(Or his twin brother comes back from winter break) then he scores vital goals, hence the reason why we are reigning champions

For all the tw@ts whinging about Jovetic, remember this: He is a squad player and would be in the CL squad if it wasn't for the bent c@nts at UEFA changing the rules after we submitted our figures and making us fail the so called FFP!

[clippo22]

I can see why he's pissed off and I'd much rather drop Willy because he is very unlikely to play, and most of the time when he does play we concede loads and lose. Ok so it's not all his fault but I can't remember him doing anything decent in any of his games.

When it was announced Jovetic was left out of the squad I expected him to start at home to Hull so was surprised when Dzeko started (who was fucking shite!) and then again he doesn't start against Stoke so he's not being given a chance in Europe or in the league.

I think he bring energy and works hard when given the chance and he has scored goals, given a decent run into the team I think a lot more of the stuff he tries would come off and he would score just as many goals as Dzeko when he's in form.

[Bleed_Blue]

It couldnt be helped but Jovetic did help us in getting out of group stages, he is a classy player and different from our other strikers.

It would be a loss if he leaves in the summer.

[Goaters 103]

Not one mention in the article about his reliability or fitness or even the remotest hint of looking at it from Pellers view.

Balanced journalism at its finest.

Agreed. No mention that he's fit as often as City score from a corner.

Not consistent enough, never fit enough, doesn't contribute enough, no idea what his position is. However - Juventus seem to really really like him, which comes in handy given we want Mr Pogba. Id say theres scope there for a deal to suit all parties.

Jovetic looks to me like one of those players that consistently tease you with their ability and are labelled either "potentially great" or an "on his day" player. Well the days are too few and far between and like Duncan Ferguson as an example, the fees they go for and the performances they produce don't match.

[Bleed_Blue]

When it was announced Jovetic was left out of the squad I expected him to start at home to Hull so was surprised when Dzeko started (who was fucking shite!) and then again he doesn't start against Stoke so he's not being given a chance in Europe or in the league.

What are you saying ?? Dzeko was much better are you confusing Dzeko with Aguero, because Aguero was the one awful against Hull.

[zuricity]

When it was announced Jovetic was left out of the squad I expected him to start at home to Hull so was surprised when Dzeko started (who was fucking shite!) and then again he doesn't start against Stoke so he's not being given a chance in Europe or in the league.

What are you saying ?? Dzeko was much better are you confusing Dzeko with Aguero, because Aguero was the one awful against Hull.

You beat me to it about Edin vs Hull.


Edin is a proven goal scorer.Even when he was in Germany. The main reason we bought him. Jove was a potential , often injured in Italy and so too with us. No comparison really. Edin any day of the week over Jove.

[Moonchesteri]

When it was announced Jovetic was left out of the squad I expected him to start at home to Hull so was surprised when Dzeko started (who was fucking shite!) and then again he doesn't start against Stoke so he's not being given a chance in Europe or in the league.

What are you saying ?? Dzeko was much better are you confusing Dzeko with Aguero, because Aguero was the one awful against Hull.

You beat me to it about Edin vs Hull.


Edin is a proven goal scorer.Even when he was in Germany. The main reason we bought him Jove way a potential , often injured in Italy and so too with us. No comparison really. Edin any day of the week over Jove.

+1 to both zuricity's and B_B's posts

[Beefymcfc]

Fucking whinging sick note. Get back on your mothers teet you soft cunt.

Why does he deserve a spot above anybody else in the squad, what the fuck has he done when he hasn't been injured.

Getting fucking rid I say.

[Sideshow Bob]

I don't understand why we can't find a role for him. Aside from silva and yaya (and samir on a good day), we desperately lack creativity - Jojo has that in spades.

[Bleed_Blue]

I don't understand why we can't find a role for him. Aside from silva and yaya (and samir on a good day), we desperately lack creativity - Jojo has that in spades.

Agree with you, Jojo still has the class. He is different from other strikers and is a joy to watch.

Frankly anyone in his positions would do the same, he got us out of the group stages more or less.

Its like an employee who worked his ass of on a project(but took a lot of sick leaves and didnt give his all on the normal day to day work) and is not getting to go to a world wide conference.

I would whine too, there is not a single player in the team who wouldn't have whined for being left out, I dont understand the negativity towards a still city player.

[Beefymcfc]

I don't understand why we can't find a role for him. Aside from silva and yaya (and samir on a good day), we desperately lack creativity - Jojo has that in spades.

He has a role, just not in the CL and if he doesn't understand why he hasn't been picked then he needs to take a good hard look at himself. No doubt he'll have a sore toe or cut his finger next time we need to call on him.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I understand why Jovetic is annoyed , Id be too , especially considering it was majorly down to him that we qualified from the group stages...its a kick in the royals for him!
I don't know why we couldn't drop sagna or Kolorov instead ,both are surplus to requirements as far as I'm concerned , you cannot drop out the number 2 goalie as any injury to the first choice then your fucked.