Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
Just out of curiosity, who would you aim your long kicks at if you were playing in goal for City?
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
Just out of curiosity, who would you aim your long kicks at if you were playing in goal for City?
Slim wrote:He also kicked it to Aguero's head who managed to get it to Silva, led to one of our best attacks of the game.
Hart was last night praised by Messi, Enrique and Iniesta. Not a bad trio to judge a performance.
Dubciteh wrote:Slim wrote:He also kicked it to Aguero's head who managed to get it to Silva, led to one of our best attacks of the game.
Hart was last night praised by Messi, Enrique and Iniesta. Not a bad trio to judge a performance.
A pat on the back for kicking the ball back to them was it?:P
Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
Sister of fu wrote:Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
I thought he had a super game last night. Last night I only recall him hoofing it out of play once. Last night I didn't see as much of the giving the ball away as I did against Burnley. He did very little wrong yesterday, im I wrong in saying that? I don't know one player that plays the perfect game. Messi is being lauded over for his performance last night, how many chances did he miss?? Do them misses take away from what was a mesmerising performance from the worlds greatest player, I don't think so.
Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:Dubciteh wrote:Sister of fu wrote:For those saying he didn't have a good game please go and wobble your heads. He was superb last night. No he didn't make loads of "for the camera" type saves but he made timely interventions and made himself very hard to beat. The save from Messi at the end was top notch and if De Gea made that you wouldn't hear the last of it. Saying that he has huge deficiencies in his game.
People can say keepers are there to stop shots etc but the game has evolved and so has the role of a goal keeper. If you are playing teams at the level of Barca of Bayern you can not keep giving possession back to them by your keeper either kicking it out of play or giving it back to the opposition, this being something Joe does far to often. He has to improve this part of his game or IMO be replaced.
From being around the club last year and seeing the work they do with the keepers all of them are now ball playing and have to be able to do this to a good standard. In the future I am pretty sure you will see one of our own playing in goal for city spraying the ball around with ultimate ease.
How can you say he was superb when you go on then to mention that you cant give away possession like he did? Countless times he kicked it straight to them or out of touch....i think once Sagna managed to keep one in by his dreadlocks. His saves were superb last night, his all round goalkeeping wasnt and as you point out its crucial against the top teams.
So which is it, was he superb or wasnt he?
I thought he had a super game last night. Last night I only recall him hoofing it out of play once. Last night I didn't see as much of the giving the ball away as I did against Burnley. He did very little wrong yesterday, im I wrong in saying that? I don't know one player that plays the perfect game. Messi is being lauded over for his performance last night, how many chances did he miss?? Do them misses take away from what was a mesmerising performance from the worlds greatest player, I don't think so.
I wasnt having a go it was a genuine question, yes he gave it away a fair bit, once in the second half he hit it straight to them and they nearly scored, think he was trying to hit kolorov and got no where near it but there were plenty of times. I personally think those errors do take away from his performance, esp as it was in a losing team performance.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:This crusade against Hart is ridiculous.
Nigels Tackle wrote:fuck off you cunt
#teamhart
Beefymcfc wrote:I know you're all complaining about his distribution but think about this. What if he's kicking it to our player but our player just isn't there?
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:I know you're all complaining about his distribution but think about this. What if he's kicking it to our player but our player just isn't there?
Hardly surprising Beefy, our players are not supposed to be sat in the stands.
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