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[The Man In Blue]

I MUST ADMIT EVERY MATCH DAY I HAVE THIS SITE ON LINE

you log on here while you are in the stadium? oh wait...

[edge275]

I honestly have a feeling we ain't talking to a rag here but a fellow blue having a laugh.. Not that he ain't stupid enough to be a Rag as he got that in spades but the fact he ain't left this topic? If he was a real rag he wouldn't be nice enough to stay here and keep the insults in 1 topic.

TRUST ME - HE,S 100% RAG.

FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again.

NOW YOU HAVE A MULTI BILLION BACKING OWNER MAKES ALL WELL AT CITY. LOOK BACK INTO YOUR INDIVIDUAL POSTINGS YOU HAVE MADE AND ADD UP THE PRO'S AND CON'S, SOME OF YOU REJECTS SEEM TO CHANGE AS IT GOES ALONG. "I LIKE THIS.......I DON'T LIKE THAT" THE F@#$% NEXT WEEK IS COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. I MUST ADMIT EVERY MATCH DAY I HAVE THIS SITE ON LINE AND ONLY LAUGH MY F%^&* ASS OFF AT YOU DUMBOS TRYING TO BE THE EXPERTISE YOU ARE NOT. FACE IT AND LIVE WITH IT, CITY WILL ALWAYS BE CITY........A LAUGH AMONGST ALL PRESS AND TV..............

N O W F U ***&&&& BAN ME IF YOU DARE,

REALITY HURTS THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN IT

This won't happen you know why? Because Arab honour will prevent it from happening. No way on earth will the Sheikh allow this project to fail. Losing honour in the east is a big big thing and they will do anything to preserve it and to protect it.

[roadrageDR]

I honestly have a feeling we ain't talking to a rag here but a fellow blue having a laugh.. Not that he ain't stupid enough to be a Rag as he got that in spades but the fact he ain't left this topic? If he was a real rag he wouldn't be nice enough to stay here and keep the insults in 1 topic.

TRUST ME - HE,S 100% RAG.

FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again.

NOW YOU HAVE A MULTI BILLION BACKING OWNER MAKES ALL WELL AT CITY. LOOK BACK INTO YOUR INDIVIDUAL POSTINGS YOU HAVE MADE AND ADD UP THE PRO'S AND CON'S, SOME OF YOU REJECTS SEEM TO CHANGE AS IT GOES ALONG. "I LIKE THIS.......I DON'T LIKE THAT" THE F@#$% NEXT WEEK IS COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. I MUST ADMIT EVERY MATCH DAY I HAVE THIS SITE ON LINE AND ONLY LAUGH MY F%^&* ASS OFF AT YOU DUMBOS TRYING TO BE THE EXPERTISE YOU ARE NOT. FACE IT AND LIVE WITH IT, CITY WILL ALWAYS BE CITY........A LAUGH AMONGST ALL PRESS AND TV..............

N O W F U ***&&&& BAN ME IF YOU DARE,

REALITY HURTS THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN IT

This won't happen you know why? Because Arab honour will prevent it from happening. No way on earth will the Sheikh allow this project to fail. Losing honour in the east is a big big thing and they will do anything to preserve it and to protect it.

Arab Honor and Shame
Stanley Kurtz has an article in the National Review on honor and shame in Arab culture. He notes that the preference for the marriage of cousins “serves as a fail-safe protective device to secure collective family honor, and linked the honor-based function of cousin marriage to a broader appreciation of super-charged, in-group solidarity as a social strategy.” Recently it was reported that approximately half of all Iraqi marriages were to cousins. It is worth reviewing the Islamic concept of honor and shame. I suggest everyone read the classic “The Arab Mind” by Rapheal Patai.

Patai starts by noting “Much has been written on the subject of honor (sharaf) among the Arabs. What has not been emphasized … is that there is a strong correlation between honor and group survival. Honorable behavior is that which is conducive to group cohesion and group survival. [p95] … Two components of the honor syndrome which have most to do with group survival are virility and kinship spirit. In the Bedouin hierarchy of values it redounds to the honor of a man to have many children, and especially sons. [p97] … [O]ne of the reasons for the general Bedouin preference for endogamy [marriage within the family]: the child-bearing capacity of its women must be preserved for the ingroup in order to make sure that all the natural increase or replacement thus obtained will take place within its own ranks rather than those of another, potentially hostile, group. [p98]

“Historically, the sense of honor was so much tied to the group spirit that both were (and still are) referred to by one and the same term, “`asabiyya,” which means primarily “family spirit” or “kinship spirit.” … Although Muhammad condemned `asabiyya as contrary to the spirit of Islam, this could not eliminate it from the consciousness of the Arabs. Ibn Khaldun, the great fourteenth-century theoretician of Arab history, even went so far as to uphold `asabiyya as the fundamental bond of human society and the basic motivating force in history.” [p99]

A group dynamic is at play in the psychology of shame. “Shame must, of course, be carefully distinguished from guilt. ‘Shame’ has been defined as a matter between a person and his society, while ‘guilt’ is primarily a matter between a person and his conscience. A hermit in a desert can feel guilt; he cannot fell shame. … What pressures the Arab to behave in an honorable manner is not guilt but shame, or, more precisely, the psychological drive to escape or prevent negative judgment by others.” [p113] Patai also covers the well known ethos of “sexual honor” which result in “honor killings,” in Chapter 8; [p126] This is widely known and requires no summary.

Honor and shame, for an Arab family/tribe is seen as a key survival factor. Dishonor brings physical danger to the family. Thus, the contempt an Arab/Muslim holds for the other is expressed by violence to the other’s family. In Israel the main targets of suicide bombings are not military but civilian. What is being expressed is “you brought shame and death to your family.” This isn’t a second best choice because of a lack of military power; this is an end in itself. Arab/Muslims know that Western morality inhibits retaliation in kind. Indeed, they’ll exploit such moral sentiments in the West whenever Arab civilians are inadvertently killed. No such complaint would be lodged against a fellow Arab.

Israel, for a time, had a policy of evicting families of suicide bombers. At least one such family turned in their son to prevent losing their home. However, Arabs quickly provided funds to reward families and neutralized this policy (Saddam was one such funding source.) No doubt if Israel killed the family of suicide bombers the shame/honor dynamic would diminish the high regard of being a shaheed and most likely end suicide bombings. Israel, of course, can’t do this. One Arab reporter, while gloating, told his American counterpart that "with all your technology you can’t respond to this manner of fighting." There is a perverse pride in being able to kill the families of civilized people knowing how difficult it is for them to do the same in return.

This, of course, is not true historically. In World War I, when Germany deployed chemical weapons to killing the allies, France and England put aside their moral reservations and engaged in similar methods. Given that the wind generally blows from West to East, this gave the allies a slight advantage. Consequently, the Germans didn’t make this mistake again in WWII. Hitler, however, believed his air superiority gave him an edge as he bombed civilians in London. He didn’t expect the British to acquire the capacity to bomb German cities. The UK accepted the practice of bombing populous cities far sooner and to a greater extent than the USA.

In war, moral sensibilities tend to move as the enemy lowers the bar. However, we are now fighting a war where, for the first time, a society accepts an absolute deontological prohibition against adjusting military technique given the enemy’s decent into savagery. No such barrier was everlasting for the UK in Europe or the USA in Japan. It is reasonable to hesitate to cross such barriers depending on the stage of the war, scale of the war and the costs of the war. But one wonders where the breaking point lies.

Returning to Patai he makes an interesting observation of what he calls “rhetoricism.” Quoting Edward Atiyah “It is a characteristic of the Arab mind to be swayed more by words than by ideas, and more by ideas than by facts.” Patai notes that “Some writers go so far as to postulate an inner relationship between language and manhood: strong manhood is co-extensive with strong rhetoric. … To the Arab mind, eloquence is related to exaggeration, which is not meant to be taken literally but which only serves the purpose of effect.” [p52] By the way, Patai died decades before Baghdad Bob.

“The psychological mechanism which produced all these untrue assertions was similar to the one which produces the typical dream of wish fulfillment: the strong desire that an event should take place … produces a verbal statement in which the desired event is represented as an accomplished fact.” [p54] We’d call that lying. Patai describes the “substituting words for deeds” as an Arab way of living. “The intention of doing something, or the plan of doing something, or the initiation of the first step toward doing something—any one of these can serve as a substitute for achievement and accomplishment. … By expressing the future act in the form of an intention, he achieves a measure of psychological relief; thereafter it no longer appears imperative to carry out the intended act.” [p67]
Commentary

One of the failures of the current administration and our intellectuals is their inability to pass moral judgment. This first and foremost has a destructive effect on the cognitive clarity and morale of our fellow citizens. However, it also allows the enemy to fantasize that they are in the right and that they are honorable.

As I discussed in the past, I believe that verbal assaults could, in part, substitute for physical assaults in establishing a deterrent. Both the honor/shame mechanism and the rhetorical-substitution effect suggest we are denying ourselves the use of a very effective weapon.

YOU ARE SUCH A DICK......EDGE..........edge of what, topping yourself i hope

[Sister of fu]

If were still doing the new years honours thingy I'm voting the ^^^^above post at the most boring. My god may have a read of that when iv got a bout of insominia!!!!

[edge275]

YOU ARE SUCH A DICK......EDGE..........edge of what, topping yourself i hope

If you think that article dispels the fact that arabs hold honour in high regard then bully for you.

[9secondlegend]

If were still doing the new years honours thingy I'm voting the ^^^^above post at the most boring. My god may have a read of that when iv got a bout of insominia!!!!

seconded

[Blackadder]

If were still doing the new years honours thingy I'm voting the ^^^^above post at the most boring. My god may have a read of that when iv got a bout of insominia!!!!

seconded

At least we have established that the illiterate fuckwit knows how to copy and paste.

[paulh]

MANCHESTER UNITED HMMMMMMMMMM!

fuck the munich survivors over big time not offering them pensions etc while platting charltons arse. THEN put a corporate logo on a munich anniversary hologram outside ground.

Words fail me you nobheads i despise you

and FINALLY you nick the RED DEVILS nickname off nearby salford rugby club you wankers

[Sheikhermaker]

Thats what pisses me off most, the red devils thing. I'm a massive rugby fan and have supported Salford for years, the way those knobs stole possibly one of the best known sports identities in the region at the time was appalling.

I'd love for SRLFC to go legal about it, I know it'll never happen though, not enough money in the game of rugby these days.

One good thing to come from it?

Salford CITY Reds

;-)

[razor400]

If were still doing the new years honours thingy I'm voting the ^^^^above post at the most boring. My god may have a read of that when iv got a bout of insominia!!!!

seconded

At least we have established that the illiterate fuckwit knows how to copy and paste.

I'm pretty sure he knows how to lick windows as well.

[paulh]

sheikhhermaker you are are a legend mate. city first but love the salford city reds rugby league is a great sport(have some salford tops would never wear home due to being red) loads of city follow warrington which i find hard to accept. i do about 1/4 of games due to living out of salford stand to right of variety centre for first half then shed for second

[spiv]

I honestly have a feeling we ain't talking to a rag here but a fellow blue having a laugh.. Not that he ain't stupid enough to be a Rag as he got that in spades but the fact he ain't left this topic? If he was a real rag he wouldn't be nice enough to stay here and keep the insults in 1 topic.

TRUST ME - HE,S 100% RAG.

FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again.

NOW YOU HAVE A MULTI BILLION BACKING OWNER MAKES ALL WELL AT CITY. LOOK BACK INTO YOUR INDIVIDUAL POSTINGS YOU HAVE MADE AND ADD UP THE PRO'S AND CON'S, SOME OF YOU REJECTS SEEM TO CHANGE AS IT GOES ALONG. "I LIKE THIS.......I DON'T LIKE THAT" THE F@#$% NEXT WEEK IS COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. I MUST ADMIT EVERY MATCH DAY I HAVE THIS SITE ON LINE AND ONLY LAUGH MY F%^&* ASS OFF AT YOU DUMBOS TRYING TO BE THE EXPERTISE YOU ARE NOT. FACE IT AND LIVE WITH IT, CITY WILL ALWAYS BE CITY........A LAUGH AMONGST ALL PRESS AND TV..............

N O W F U ***&&&& BAN ME IF YOU DARE,

REALITY HURTS THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN IT

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FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again.


So what has your academy produced since the academy system started ?
And dont come back with beckham, giggs, scholes and any of them other old people.
NAME A FULL INTERNATIONAL SIDE THAT HAS COME OUT OF YOUR ACADEMY SINCE THE ACADEMY SYSTEM WAS ESTABLISHED

[irblinx]

I obviously don't want to say I told you so but, well I did! What value is added to any topic of debate on here by including the rag poison?

[spiv]

I am taking offence to this

"FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again."

Our record is second to none for producing talent through the academy system.

[dazby]

5-0 arf arf arf. When was the last time you shits scored 5 arf arf arf. 2nd in Prem arf arf arf.

You are Carl's inbred rag brother aren't you? That's why he's gone so easy on you.

YOUR RIGHT LOL !!!! IVE KNOWN HIM FOR 25 YRS OR SO AND HES A FUCKING CUNT OF CUNTS WORSE THAN ME....THE WORST KIND OF RAG THERE IS.

HE,S BEEN TRYING TO INFILTRATE THIS BOARD FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND HE HAS NOW MADE IT ON THE SITE........I TOLD YOU KK !!!
IF CITY ARE LOSING HE MAKES SURE HIS BILE GETS TO ME AND WINDS ME UP....HE HAS THIS KNACK OF GETTING A MESSAGE BY CARRIER PIGEON IF NECESARY JUST TO WIND ME UP...GOD BLESS THE CUNT !

ID NEVER ALLOW HIM ON HERE (SORRY MATE....BUT YOUR A WUM OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!)

Detective dazby solves yet another case. I think we should keep him Carl. He makes you look intelligent. ;-)

[10.Goater_Legend]

I am taking offence to this

"FU2 WE ARE THE BEST,WE HAVE PRODUCED THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD FOR OTHER CLUBS, CHECK OUT YOUR TRACK RECORD.........."the same old City" time and time again."

Our record is second to none for producing talent through the academy system.

That's why he said it mate, tryna wind us up, don't let it get to you. ;)

[carl_feedthegoat]

5-0 arf arf arf. When was the last time you shits scored 5 arf arf arf. 2nd in Prem arf arf arf.

You are Carl's inbred rag brother aren't you? That's why he's gone so easy on you.

YOUR RIGHT LOL !!!! IVE KNOWN HIM FOR 25 YRS OR SO AND HES A FUCKING CUNT OF CUNTS WORSE THAN ME....THE WORST KIND OF RAG THERE IS.

HE,S BEEN TRYING TO INFILTRATE THIS BOARD FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND HE HAS NOW MADE IT ON THE SITE........I TOLD YOU KK !!!
IF CITY ARE LOSING HE MAKES SURE HIS BILE GETS TO ME AND WINDS ME UP....HE HAS THIS KNACK OF GETTING A MESSAGE BY CARRIER PIGEON IF NECESARY JUST TO WIND ME UP...GOD BLESS THE CUNT !

ID NEVER ALLOW HIM ON HERE (SORRY MATE....BUT YOUR A WUM OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!)

Detective dazby solves yet another case. I think we should keep him Carl. He makes you look intelligent. ;-)

REMIND ME TO KICK YOU IN THE NUTS IF I EVER COME ACROSS YOU.

[walmai]

GET A LIFE YOU SAD TWATS, HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON WHEN YOU MANAGE TO SAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE HOL'S SADO SADO SADO


LIFE IS SWEET 2ND IN PREM 32C CHICAS V8 (cheap gas) life after being a WANK SUPPORTER. do not wind me up as i have the abillity to attack from all sides,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,shaking in my boots..............doubt it you bunch of pussies..........me owwwwwwwwwww

What you're about to witness over the next few years, is that you're going to be beaten very hard by your own game.

Before Sky, before the Champions League teams were even. Teams winning the league tended to vary. As Sky and Champions League were introduced this enabled the current teams that won to stay there with funds that surpassed everybody else.

Luckily for your infested side, they were the current team winning and therefore was allowed to stay there.

30m on Veron, 25m on Rooney, 30m on Ferdinand, 30m for Berbatov and so on and so on. Whilst we almost bankrupted ourselves bringing in the likes of Fowler and Samaras. Everyone else didn't really stand a chance.

Now, Sheikh Mansour has come to take over Manchester City, the sleeping giant, and with funds far greater than Sky and the Champions League can ever dream of, you're about to be absolutely pasted by the very same formula you've used for your own success.

Baconface is near retirement, your time is over and the Sheikh is coming.

So to recap; can't beat 'em, join 'em?

[10.Goater_Legend]

GET A LIFE YOU SAD TWATS, HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON WHEN YOU MANAGE TO SAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE HOL'S SADO SADO SADO


LIFE IS SWEET 2ND IN PREM 32C CHICAS V8 (cheap gas) life after being a WANK SUPPORTER. do not wind me up as i have the abillity to attack from all sides,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,shaking in my boots..............doubt it you bunch of pussies..........me owwwwwwwwwww

What you're about to witness over the next few years, is that you're going to be beaten very hard by your own game.

Before Sky, before the Champions League teams were even. Teams winning the league tended to vary. As Sky and Champions League were introduced this enabled the current teams that won to stay there with funds that surpassed everybody else.

Luckily for your infested side, they were the current team winning and therefore was allowed to stay there.

30m on Veron, 25m on Rooney, 30m on Ferdinand, 30m for Berbatov and so on and so on. Whilst we almost bankrupted ourselves bringing in the likes of Fowler and Samaras. Everyone else didn't really stand a chance.

Now, Sheikh Mansour has come to take over Manchester City, the sleeping giant, and with funds far greater than Sky and the Champions League can ever dream of, you're about to be absolutely pasted by the very same formula you've used for your own success.

Baconface is near retirement, your time is over and the Sheikh is coming.

So to recap; can't beat 'em, join 'em?

Very much so my Hammer freind, top post that was by the way Edge, brilliant.

[walmai]

Yeah, I liked the point he was making, but I'm fairly sure that fans of football generally across the country would be happy to see Taggart miss out on some silverware if it meant that your lot were waving it under his bulbous hooter!

Interesting to see that a team that couldn't previously keep a clean sheet for love nor money (oil stained perhaps) has nestled down into three in a row.

Here's hoping that you can do the same in the coming matches - Cometh the hour, cometh Carlitos?