100 mil for Nasri, Kolarov, Dzeko, Yaya and Jovetic

[Ted Hughes]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

[iwasthere2012]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Not so sure they would, which is why I say, it may be too much of a risk. If all of the previously mentioned players do go, including Milner, Jojo, Sagna, Kolorov, Lampard and Dzeko, without even starting on who out of Yaya and/or Nasri, then I'd like to see the big money go on about four players that will energise the midfield. Let the rest of the squad be filled with promotion of the best youngsters.
I'd be happy with the risk, but as I say it may be too much for those that decide these things.
Look at Utd. as you say. Bad and all as they are, the fact is they are still very much in with a shout of Champs League next year. I think we could put an invigorated team out next year that could/should be able to compete for top 3 or 4. Would that be enough for most people. Probably not, but I'd take it if it was the start of a progression stream being opened for the academy.
I've followed City long enough. I can wait a few more years for European dominance.

[phips]

what have Kolarov, Jovetic, and Yaya done to warrant big price tags? Sure Yaya had a great season last year but he's fallen off the map and other clubs know that.

What has Yaya done? He's African POTY for the third? successive year and he's just won the African cup of nations.

and who is gonna rival him? Benoit Assou-Ekotto? Drogba?

That's besides the point, you said he's fallen off the map, that is complete nonsense.

Why would you pick two has beens anyway? There's plenty of good African players performing really well in the top European leagues at present.

Why did you leave out the bit of my post about how many goals he's scored this season? Is it because you realised that he's actually done reasonably well on that front? In fact he's scored the same amount that he did every other season ( bar last season ) he's been with us when he was well and truly on the map.

i left that part out because it was irrelevant to my retort about African POTY. My choosing of those 2 players was a swipe at the award, implying there's no real challenger currently; i assumed that was obvious.

compared to last season when he scored a ridiculous amount of goals and had a legit claim for Premier League player of the year he's fallen off. if you think we're going to get something like 30m for him you're having a laugh.

[Wonderwall]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Not so sure they would, which is why I say, it may be too much of a risk. If all of the previously mentioned players do go, including Milner, Jojo, Sagna, Kolorov, Lampard and Dzeko, without even starting on who out of Yaya and/or Nasri, then I'd like to see the big money go on about four players that will energise the midfield. Let the rest of the squad be filled with promotion of the best youngsters.
I'd be happy with the risk, but as I say it may be too much for those that decide these things.
Look at Utd. as you say. Bad and all as they are, the fact is they are still very much in with a shout of Champs League next year. I think we could put an invigorated team out next year that could/should be able to compete for top 3 or 4. Would that be enough for most people. Probably not, but I'd take it if it was the start of a progression stream being opened for the academy.
I've followed City long enough. I can wait a few more years for European dominance.

Hart

Zaba Kompany Mangala Clichy

Navas Fernandinho Fernando Silva

Bony Aguero

Start to ingrate the new players whoever they are, not all at once, also introduce the academy graduates.
MDM could rotate around the CDM role too and push Fernandinho further forward.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

what have Kolarov, Jovetic, and Yaya done to warrant big price tags? Sure Yaya had a great season last year but he's fallen off the map and other clubs know that.

What has Yaya done? He's African POTY for the third? successive year and he's just won the African cup of nations.

and who is gonna rival him? Benoit Assou-Ekotto? Drogba?

That's besides the point, you said he's fallen off the map, that is complete nonsense.

Why would you pick two has beens anyway? There's plenty of good African players performing really well in the top European leagues at present.

Why did you leave out the bit of my post about how many goals he's scored this season? Is it because you realised that he's actually done reasonably well on that front? In fact he's scored the same amount that he did every other season ( bar last season ) he's been with us when he was well and truly on the map.

i left that part out because it was irrelevant to my retort about African POTY. My choosing of those 2 players was a swipe at the award, implying there's no real challenger currently; i assumed that was obvious.

compared to last season when he scored a ridiculous amount of goals and had a legit claim for Premier League player of the year he's fallen off. if you think we're going to get something like 30m for him you're having a laugh.

You said he's fallen off the map, my retort including pointing out that he has scored 9 times this season is evidence that that is nonsense.

Picking two has beens has no relevance whatsoever in regards that award.

Who said anything about £30million?

[Ted Hughes]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Not so sure they would, which is why I say, it may be too much of a risk. If all of the previously mentioned players do go, including Milner, Jojo, Sagna, Kolorov, Lampard and Dzeko, without even starting on who out of Yaya and/or Nasri, then I'd like to see the big money go on about four players that will energise the midfield. Let the rest of the squad be filled with promotion of the best youngsters.
I'd be happy with the risk, but as I say it may be too much for those that decide these things.
Look at Utd. as you say. Bad and all as they are, the fact is they are still very much in with a shout of Champs League next year. I think we could put an invigorated team out next year that could/should be able to compete for top 3 or 4. Would that be enough for most people. Probably not, but I'd take it if it was the start of a progression stream being opened for the academy.
I've followed City long enough. I can wait a few more years for European dominance.

Hart

Zaba Kompany Mangala Clichy

Navas Fernandinho Fernando Silva

Bony Aguero

Start to ingrate the new players whoever they are, not all at once, also introduce the academy graduates.
MDM could rotate around the CDM role too and push Fernandinho further forward.

That's fine if everyone is happy not winning the league & likely not getting out of the Champions Lg group. But that team isn't a title winning team & with Aguero missing half the season, which he will, we are totally reliant on a bunch of untried players to fight for four trophies.

It might work, but it hardly ever does. Swap two of the mids, for two really top class players, add whoever is deemed necessary in other positions, a few kids coming through, leaving the team intact, & imo we are big favourites for the league. Then swap a couple more the following season.

I don't understand why anyone wants to do it any other way, apart from to punish players they are unhappy with.

[DoomMerchant]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Why should a 30 year old crew of "experienced" blokes struggle against the most parity-ridden and average era the Prem has ever seen?

cheers

[Wonderwall]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Not so sure they would, which is why I say, it may be too much of a risk. If all of the previously mentioned players do go, including Milner, Jojo, Sagna, Kolorov, Lampard and Dzeko, without even starting on who out of Yaya and/or Nasri, then I'd like to see the big money go on about four players that will energise the midfield. Let the rest of the squad be filled with promotion of the best youngsters.
I'd be happy with the risk, but as I say it may be too much for those that decide these things.
Look at Utd. as you say. Bad and all as they are, the fact is they are still very much in with a shout of Champs League next year. I think we could put an invigorated team out next year that could/should be able to compete for top 3 or 4. Would that be enough for most people. Probably not, but I'd take it if it was the start of a progression stream being opened for the academy.
I've followed City long enough. I can wait a few more years for European dominance.

Hart

Zaba Kompany Mangala Clichy

Navas Fernandinho Fernando Silva

Bony Aguero

Start to ingrate the new players whoever they are, not all at once, also introduce the academy graduates.
MDM could rotate around the CDM role too and push Fernandinho further forward.

That's fine if everyone is happy not winning the league & likely not getting out of the Champions Lg group. But that team isn't a title winning team & with Aguero missing half the season, which he will, we are totally reliant on a bunch of untried players to fight for four trophies.

It might work, but it hardly ever does. Swap two of the mids, for two really top class players, add whoever is deemed necessary in other positions, a few kids coming through, leaving the team intact, & imo we are big favourites for the league. Then swap a couple more the following season.

I don't understand why anyone wants to do it any other way, apart from to punish players they are unhappy with.

That was an example of a team we could field and still get rid of the players being mentioned. That is a top 4 team any day of the week, its not like we are going to get rid of those players and not buy some quality in! I was saying we dont have to play all newcomers in the same team, we still have a good steady squad and we could integrate them at our pace and if they hit the ground running, then all the better.

We are definitely losing
Milner, Sinclair, Richards, Nastasic, Negredo, Lampard

We are likely to offload some of:
Jovetic, Dzeko, Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Rekik, Guidetti

We have the loanees to come back who will be part of pre-season and pushing for a quad number next season
Lopes, Denayer, Fofana, Cole, Hiwula, Leigh, Evans, Facey, Zuculini (some are more obvious than others but they have all had a good experience)

[iwasthere2012]

If you take out Yaya, Nasri, Dzeko & Milner leaves, you are basically left with just Silva, in midfield who actually plays in the City 'style' & only Aguero upfront & a winger in Navas. With a bit of help from Fernandinho.

We have seen DeMaria,RVP, Mata & Blind, all players who are used to pass & move football, struggle like fuck to actually produce it properly at the swamp. Much as we take the piss out of Turtles, he is a vastly experienced manager, but without DeGea & awful finishing from the oppo, his team would be in the bottom half. For most of the season, they have completely failed.

Why should a random group of new players instantly hit it off at City ?

Not so sure they would, which is why I say, it may be too much of a risk. If all of the previously mentioned players do go, including Milner, Jojo, Sagna, Kolorov, Lampard and Dzeko, without even starting on who out of Yaya and/or Nasri, then I'd like to see the big money go on about four players that will energise the midfield. Let the rest of the squad be filled with promotion of the best youngsters.
I'd be happy with the risk, but as I say it may be too much for those that decide these things.
Look at Utd. as you say. Bad and all as they are, the fact is they are still very much in with a shout of Champs League next year. I think we could put an invigorated team out next year that could/should be able to compete for top 3 or 4. Would that be enough for most people. Probably not, but I'd take it if it was the start of a progression stream being opened for the academy.
I've followed City long enough. I can wait a few more years for European dominance.

Hart

Zaba Kompany Mangala Clichy

Navas Fernandinho Fernando Silva

Bony Aguero

Start to ingrate the new players whoever they are, not all at once, also introduce the academy graduates.
MDM could rotate around the CDM role too and push Fernandinho further forward.

That's fine if everyone is happy not winning the league & likely not getting out of the Champions Lg group. But that team isn't a title winning team & with Aguero missing half the season, which he will, we are totally reliant on a bunch of untried players to fight for four trophies.

It might work, but it hardly ever does. Swap two of the mids, for two really top class players, add whoever is deemed necessary in other positions, a few kids coming through, leaving the team intact, & imo we are big favourites for the league. Then swap a couple more the following season.

I don't understand why anyone wants to do it any other way, apart from to punish players they are unhappy with.

That was an example of a team we could field and still get rid of the players being mentioned. That is a top 4 team any day of the week, its not like we are going to get rid of those players and not buy some quality in! I was saying we dont have to play all newcomers in the same team, we still have a good steady squad and we could integrate them at our pace and if they hit the ground running, then all the better.

We are definitely losing
Milner, Sinclair, Richards, Nastasic, Negredo, Lampard

We are likely to offload some of:
Jovetic, Dzeko, Yaya, Nasri, Kolarov, Rekik, Guidetti

We have the loanees to come back who will be part of pre-season and pushing for a quad number next season
Lopes, Denayer, Fofana, Cole, Hiwula, Leigh, Evans, Facey, Zuculini (some are more obvious than others but they have all had a good experience)

Just to add to that Ted, I don't think, apart from maybe a few on here, that we are advocating pushing anyone out for spite. The list Wonderwall has put up is likely whether we like it or not, but the ones highlighted in yellow are the ones that really need replacing, or we would leave a hole in the squad. I'm not sure we could upgrade them all with experienced players. I think Yaya/Nasri/Dzeko would be where we would have to spend our money on replacements.
If we could hold onto Jojo and Milner I'd be very happy.
If it was a toss up between Yaya and Nasri, I'd cash in on Nasri and only play Yaya sparingly at the top of a diamond or behind Sergio. I wouldn't have him as an automatic choice and it's a lot of money to be paying someone every week as backup.
As you can see no matter what way you look at it, it's going to be tough for whoever manages.
Bet your glad it's not me.

[nottsblue]

Will we have to sell these guys or some of them first, before we can buy? If so we might only one or two leaving. We couldn't expose ourselves by buying four or five new players then having to fire sale our guys as teams would know the score due to FFP and having an unbalanced squad.

Or is it likely to be one or two in, then sell a couple then buy one, sell one etc. not an ideal way to do business. Maybe buyers have already been found and we are waiting to see if we can buy to replace first, before unloading?

[PrezIke]

I'd do those deals today if they were remotely possible. Pogba is going to be the best midfield player over the decade. We must get him. Must.

Pogba to Madrid I expect.

i think so too and perhaps modric to united or elsewhere. don't think we'd take him due to his age.

[DoomMerchant]

Will we have to sell these guys or some of them first, before we can buy? If so we might only one or two leaving. We couldn't expose ourselves by buying four or five new players then having to fire sale our guys as teams would know the score due to FFP and having an unbalanced squad.

Or is it likely to be one or two in, then sell a couple then buy one, sell one etc. not an ideal way to do business. Maybe buyers have already been found and we are waiting to see if we can buy to replace first, before unloading?

We can buy whomever we want.

If your question is what will the Platini-Rummenigge-Gill Sith Lords let us buy without penalty...who the fuck could actually know because it's like some old white bastard Illuminati crew that makes up the rules later to suit their agenda.

Buy who we want. Fuck them all.

Cheers

[iwasthere2012]

I'd do those deals today if they were remotely possible. Pogba is going to be the best midfield player over the decade. We must get him. Must.

Pogba to Madrid I expect.

i think so too and perhaps modric to united or elsewhere. don't think we'd take him due to his age.

Oh Lord if you are up there....... just let The Rags come 5th or worse.

[City64]

Will we have to sell these guys or some of them first, before we can buy? If so we might only one or two leaving. We couldn't expose ourselves by buying four or five new players then having to fire sale our guys as teams would know the score due to FFP and having an unbalanced squad.

Or is it likely to be one or two in, then sell a couple then buy one, sell one etc. not an ideal way to do business. Maybe buyers have already been found and we are waiting to see if we can buy to replace first, before unloading?

We can buy whomever we want.

If your question is what will the Platini-Rummenigge-Gill Sith Lords let us buy without penalty...who the fuck could actually know because it's like some old white bastard Illuminati crew that makes up the rules later to suit their agenda.

Buy who we want. Fuck them all.

Cheers

Agree with Doomie , it's about time we bought some real quality and at least one world class marque player wouldn't go amiss this summer . The problem we have is though is the manager,s position .........who will our owner intrust in a overhaul of the squad this summer ? Some huge calls coming at the end of this season without doubt . Can see Pellegini , Yaya , Nasri and Dzeko all leaving myself ;-)

[DoomMerchant]

Will we have to sell these guys or some of them first, before we can buy? If so we might only one or two leaving. We couldn't expose ourselves by buying four or five new players then having to fire sale our guys as teams would know the score due to FFP and having an unbalanced squad.

Or is it likely to be one or two in, then sell a couple then buy one, sell one etc. not an ideal way to do business. Maybe buyers have already been found and we are waiting to see if we can buy to replace first, before unloading?

We can buy whomever we want.

If your question is what will the Platini-Rummenigge-Gill Sith Lords let us buy without penalty...who the fuck could actually know because it's like some old white bastard Illuminati crew that makes up the rules later to suit their agenda.

Buy who we want. Fuck them all.

Cheers

Agree with Doomie , it's about time we bought some real quality and at least one world class marque player wouldn't go amiss this summer . The problem we have is though is the manager,s position .........who will our owner intrust in a overhaul of the squad this summer ? Some huge calls coming at the end of this season without doubt . Can see Pellegini , Yaya , Nasri and Dzeko all leaving myself ;-)

Should the manager be neck and neck with Chelsea IMHO? Yes.

Should he be sacked because he isn't? No.

If he doesn't have a solid plan around personnel ins and outs should he be asked to jog on? Fucking aye right he should.

Cheers

[PrezIke]

If we miss out on Pogba, who would everyone want us to "replace" Yaya with (assuming he is sold)?

[Ted Hughes]

Any manager worth his salt at City, will look at this squad & know the kind of players we need in order to play the kind of football the club demands. There will be a limited number available who fit the bill & some deals will probably be fucked up by Real Madrid, Bayern etc.

What's left, is what we'll get, & chances are mostly the same players will end up coming in whoever the manager. If Mark Hughes had stayed ay City, he wouldn't have said no to Silva, Toure, or Aguero, just like the Count didn't turn down Fernandinho or Jovetic even though they were scouted under Mancini.

If there are a couple of players a new manager after the Count doesn't fancy, it's hardly a disaster. Just sell them. We won the league with Javi Garcia involved, who was pretty much doomed once the Count took over. It's not going to be a case of signing five players a new manager wouldn't want. It would be one or two at worst & unlikely to be the big ones.

[DoomMerchant]

Any manager worth his salt at City, will look at this squad & know the kind of players we need in order to play the kind of football the club demands. There will be a limited number available who fit the bill & some deals will probably be fucked up by Real Madrid, Bayern etc.

What's left, is what we'll get, & chances are mostly the same players will end up coming in whoever the manager. If Mark Hughes had stayed ay City, he wouldn't have said no to Silva, Toure, or Aguero, just like the Count didn't turn down Fernandinho or Jovetic even though they were scouted under Mancini.

If there are a couple of players a new manager after the Count doesn't fancy, it's hardly a disaster. Just sell them. We won the league with Javi Garcia involved, who was pretty much doomed once the Count took over. It's not going to be a case of signing five players a new manager wouldn't want. It would be one or two at worst & unlikely to be the big ones.

What's your point you prolific fuck? The manager hardly matters and the players we can get are what we can get regardless?

I can't make sense of the million paragraph march above.

We've reached the point of managers not mattering as much but we are probably always second or third choice to the top top tier cunts?

What do you do for work BTW? Do you inspect shit and carry a clipboard? Just curious.

Cheers

[Ted Hughes]

Any manager worth his salt at City, will look at this squad & know the kind of players we need in order to play the kind of football the club demands. There will be a limited number available who fit the bill & some deals will probably be fucked up by Real Madrid, Bayern etc.

What's left, is what we'll get, & chances are mostly the same players will end up coming in whoever the manager. If Mark Hughes had stayed ay City, he wouldn't have said no to Silva, Toure, or Aguero, just like the Count didn't turn down Fernandinho or Jovetic even though they were scouted under Mancini.

If there are a couple of players a new manager after the Count doesn't fancy, it's hardly a disaster. Just sell them. We won the league with Javi Garcia involved, who was pretty much doomed once the Count took over. It's not going to be a case of signing five players a new manager wouldn't want. It would be one or two at worst & unlikely to be the big ones.

What's your point you prolific fuck? The manager hardly matters and the players we can get are what we can get regardless?

I can't make sense of the million paragraph march above.

We've reached the point of managers not mattering as much but we are probably always second or third choice to the top top tier cunts?

What do you do for work BTW? Do you inspect shit and carry a clipboard? Just curious.

Cheers

Everybody who plays the kind of football City play, are after the same players, it's that simple.

If Pep Guardiola takes over tomorrow, the same list will appear in front of him, bar perhaps one or two wild cards.

Pep's signings, Ancelotti's signings & Pellegrini's signings as City manager, would be very similar.

[AntMcfc]

No way should Yaya and Nasri be sold, what's the point in that? They're two of our best players and two of our very few players with match winning ability. Kolarov, Dzeko, Jovetic out this summer, and, begrudgingly, Milner.