***palace v city official match thread***

[City64]

I agree with questions needing to be asked regards the Spafia.

No point whinging about this season it is done, we will finish 4 barring a complete melt down.

The post mortem should begin. Pellegrini is culpable, in my opinion so are the Spaniards, terrible signings since 2011.Next transfer window has to be absolutely spot on. Not convinced the current set up can deliver the right players.

Some bad calls from the officials went against us tonight BUT the same old thing that keeps coming to the fore happened glaringly yet again tonight that WE HAVENT BEEN GOOD ENOUGH this season with several superstar players now past there best and a manager who has been found out ! Fucking abysmal season with huge calls now needed to turn the whole situation around .New faces and a new direction needed , huge questions to be asked of the spafia aswell .

Agreed.

[blues2win]

Since January 10 in all competitions:

Played 14. Won 4. Drawn 3. Lost 7. Goals for 20. Goals against 16.

Can anyone defend that with our squad? No good picking out odd refereeing decisions or posts hit. We've been shit since the New Year and that's a fact.

[sheblue]

Since January 10 in all competitions:

Played 14. Won 4. Drawn 3. Lost 7. Goals for 20. Goals against 16.

Can anyone defend that with our squad? No good picking out odd refereeing decisions or posts hit. We've been shit since the New Year and that's a fact.

We all know we've been shit. Question is why?

[City64]

Since January 10 in all competitions:

Played 14. Won 4. Drawn 3. Lost 7. Goals for 20. Goals against 16.

Can anyone defend that with our squad? No good picking out odd refereeing decisions or posts hit. We've been shit since the New Year and that's a fact.

Crystal clear.

[Blue Since 76]

Pellers has played on our old systems, trusting we will out-score our opponents, just like our computer managers do. His first season was sorted by luck, allowing players tom play how they wanted to, Eventually it had to change, and tat;s the here and now.

Either that or the players have given up on the system/trust?

Think it's both and that's why although the manager has to go the ones who have downed tools need to go with him. That was the mistake when Mancini was sacked

A genuine question. Which players have downed tools ?

On the pitch, Yaya and Nasri. I'd also say Dzeko, but I'm not sure he every picked them up. Question marks over Kompany.

When Mancini went, the rumours were several players said it was them or him. Whilst I think the club were right to sack Mancini, they should have thrown our the ringleaders too. You can't have players deciding who manages them and the cup final was definitely that. The same squad is in place and this looks very similar - a general don't care attitude as he'll be gone in summer.

Look back at what Taggart did - any sign of trouble and the player was gone. We backed down to Tevez and hardly showed who was in charge with the many Yaya incidents. When you change manager, it's hard for them to have the authority, but the Spafia or Khaldoon needs to get a grip. Too many millionaires who know they'll get paid next week regardless

[CTID Hants]

We'll win 7-1 next Sunday, you mark my words! !

I admire your optimism, but even you cannot believe that...

[Beefymcfc]

Lampard - Gone!

Milner - Gone!

And we need these players to save our arses?

Fucking piss-take Pelligrini, are you in disguise/?

Lampard . Should never have been bought.

Milner . Should have been signed up a long time ago.

Pellegrini.... we should never have allowed the Spafia to destroy what Roberto was building.

Was disgusting the way it went down but one we have to live with. Not our finest moment.

[30yeargloryhunter]

I didn't think we played badly tonight we have just become far too predictable. Opposition know where the ball is going as we play the same patterns all the time. We don't move teams around as build up too slow and most of our stars just aren't offering moments of genius that can win you these games.
Silva hasn't had great season.., often passes at vital moments been heavy.
Toure just can't play in 2 in middle and is too slow. Pace we have got we don't use and never been convinced by Navas.., too many crosses straight into defence.
Never been fan of Dzeko and think he will go ... Touch and attitude is terrible.
We need speed and quality and some unpredictability in the team. Also our inability at set plays is enough to condemn management as it is a disgrace.
Not sure why Hart getting any grief ... I tend to agree that his save to conceded ratio is poor but he didn't do anything wrong tonight and even kicked the ball into play and nearly set up Aguero.
Biggest problem found tonight is found myself playing with phone and reading site during match which is unheard of... At times we can be bit boring

[Sparklehorse]

Do your talking on the pitch and the pitch only, oh and the reward for being MoTM is to be left out of the squad for the next match, what an incentive to play well. I can only assume Fernando is injured or there is something seriously wrong within our ranks !!

[Sparklehorse]

We'll win 7-1 next Sunday, you mark my words! !

I admire your optimism, but even you cannot believe that...

We are having a goal drought, I didn't have a particular problem with our effort tonight, we'd have probably won 5-2 under normal circumstances. Kun going 6 games without a goal is highly unusual.
My theory is we score them all next week, the 5 we should have scored tonight and the two against Burnley.
No you're right even I can't believe that !!

[Grandad Rosler]

Pellegrini says we lost because of an offside goal and a beautiful free kick. Phew thought it was something to do with the way we played..

This is exactly what gets me about this idiot. I have lost faith in the guy completely

[zuricity]

Pellers has played on our old systems, trusting we will out-score our opponents, just like our computer managers do. His first season was sorted by luck, allowing players tom play how they wanted to, Eventually it had to change, and tat;s the here and now.

Either that or the players have given up on the system/trust?

Think it's both and that's why although the manager has to go the ones who have downed tools need to go with him. That was the mistake when Mancini was sacked

A genuine question. Which players have downed tools ?

On the pitch, Yaya and Nasri. I'd also say Dzeko, but I'm not sure he every picked them up. Question marks over Kompany.

When Mancini went, the rumours were several players said it was them or him. Whilst I think the club were right to sack Mancini, they should have thrown our the ringleaders too. You can't have players deciding who manages them and the cup final was definitely that. The same squad is in place and this looks very similar - a general don't care attitude as he'll be gone in summer.

Look back at what Taggart did - any sign of trouble and the player was gone. We backed down to Tevez and hardly showed who was in charge with the many Yaya incidents. When you change manager, it's hard for them to have the authority, but the Spafia or Khaldoon needs to get a grip. Too many millionaires who know they'll get paid next week regardless

Again some good points, but i really have a problem with phrases like 'Ring leaders' . I mean, if Yaya was behind it all with Roberto , for example. Then out with him too ( agreement).

[ruralblue]

We'll win 7-1 next Sunday, you mark my words! !

I admire your optimism, but even you cannot believe that...

Think this geezers on to something!

Gonna raise you but think they will pull one back at the end.

8 - 2!

[Sue Perb]

Man for man we were a better team on paper, NO QUESTION. However,.…………we were bullied off the ball, hussled when we had it our feet and were bereft of 'new' ideas on how to get past their defence.

Yes some of the players tonight had really 'below par' performances!

Confidence is a secret strength for any sportsman, and too many of our players looked 'anaemic' when it came to their confidence.

What was that decision vis-à-vis Mangala coming on and then it was changed to Frankie L? Was that a hallucination or did it happen?

All teams carry great players who are out-of-form, but I was struggling to count more than a pair who were IN form!

I'm genuinely at a loss to understand our performances since New Year, genuinely bereft of explanations. Stats don't lie!

I just hope we rise to the occasion next Sunday and kick on from there, but I'm glad it's Pellers and not me.

[getdressedmctavish]

When I saw that team with Dzeko in it and no Milner and no Fernando I knew what to expect. We play Dzeko out wide left. The manager should be sacked for that alone. We watch the schoolboy constantly cross to no one or turn inside where he is no threat. How can someone who is so quick never ever win a penalty? And we watch Ya Ya constantly compressing the space in the penalty area. The goals we conceded were down to good Palace play and in the second instance, Ya Ya's duck.I think we were unlucky. If the Ref had seen the handball he would have given it but you can see him trying to peer round a player. The manager had the chance to get control of this team by dropping Ya Ya, playing Milner out wide and getting some ball winning ability in the middle of the park. He bottled it as he has all season and is dead meat.Most players had a decent game, but the team shape is a joke, no one plays like that any more, certainly not the three above us or our superiors in Europe.I think the players give up when they see the team sheet. PS, Fernandino did well apart from the free kick, particularly when he took responsibility instead of passing 3 feet to Ya Ya.If he has any personality(which I doubt) he could blossom with Ya Ya gone.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I didn't think we played badly tonight we have just become far too predictable. Opposition know where the ball is going as we play the same patterns all the time. We don't move teams around as build up too slow and most of our stars just aren't offering moments of genius that can win you these games.
Silva hasn't had great season.., often passes at vital moments been heavy.
Toure just can't play in 2 in middle and is too slow. Pace we have got we don't use and never been convinced by Navas.., too many crosses straight into defence.
Never been fan of Dzeko and think he will go ... Touch and attitude is terrible.
We need speed and quality and some unpredictability in the team. Also our inability at set plays is enough to condemn management as it is a disgrace.
Not sure why Hart getting any grief ... I tend to agree that his save to conceded ratio is poor but he didn't do anything wrong tonight and even kicked the ball into play and nearly set up Aguero.
Biggest problem found tonight is found myself playing with phone and reading site during match which is unheard of... At times we can be bit boring

Basically a spot on post.If you look at tonight's game in isolation you could think we were unlucky.We dominated the game, had a couple of key decisions go badly against us and could so easily have won.

As a City fan though who has seen what's been going on since Xmas tonight wasn't a surprise. The problems we are currently having is a combination of all sorts of things.There does seem to be something not quite right within the camp but exactly what is pure speculation.

Teams are setting up against us better and better and we either have to be 100% at the top of our game or we will be frustrated but a well organised parked bus.We don't play with enough pace or variation so game after game is a struggle.We have tons of possession but so what.

Tonight I was worried about the 3 players in the Palace team who sat behind Murray as they have pace and loads of trickery.By and large they did nothing as we pushed them to defensive positions but because they were defending a lot we had a 9 man wall to contend with and didn't know how to do it.On a different day the keeper might not have made the few good saves he did or we wouldn't have hit the post and had a stonewall pen not given but it wasn't a different day .It was a day we have seen plenty of.

[DoomMerchant]

Pardew...in?

Fuckfaces.

Cheers

[Blue Since 76]

Pellers has played on our old systems, trusting we will out-score our opponents, just like our computer managers do. His first season was sorted by luck, allowing players tom play how they wanted to, Eventually it had to change, and tat;s the here and now.

Either that or the players have given up on the system/trust?

Think it's both and that's why although the manager has to go the ones who have downed tools need to go with him. That was the mistake when Mancini was sacked

A genuine question. Which players have downed tools ?

On the pitch, Yaya and Nasri. I'd also say Dzeko, but I'm not sure he every picked them up. Question marks over Kompany.

When Mancini went, the rumours were several players said it was them or him. Whilst I think the club were right to sack Mancini, they should have thrown our the ringleaders too. You can't have players deciding who manages them and the cup final was definitely that. The same squad is in place and this looks very similar - a general don't care attitude as he'll be gone in summer.

Look back at what Taggart did - any sign of trouble and the player was gone. We backed down to Tevez and hardly showed who was in charge with the many Yaya incidents. When you change manager, it's hard for them to have the authority, but the Spafia or Khaldoon needs to get a grip. Too many millionaires who know they'll get paid next week regardless

Again some good points, but i really have a problem with phrases like 'Ring leaders' . I mean, if Yaya was behind it all with Roberto , for example. Then out with him too ( agreement).

If I recall, the suggested leaders were very senior players who I won't name in case I get the wrong ones or it was bullshit anyway. Getting rid of them would have seemed like madness, but at least it would have proved who was in charge. We've had two very different managers and yet the same result the second season. We still haven't defended any trophy. Whilst I'm not happy with team selection, tactics etc, the problem is starting to look much deeper.

[Blue Since 76]

Pardew...in?

Fuckfaces.

Cheers

Well his record in 2015 is a lot better...

[Nige]

For me one of our best moments was in the first half when Joe smashed it long to Aguero. The first bit if variation I've seen for months.

Didn't see that again though so can only assume it was either a fluke or he was told to stop it.