wilshere and henderson

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Is it just me, or does Henderson share a distinct likeness with Gareth Bale ??

To my eyes, they both seem to have similar Simian facial characteristics.

If we are being realistically linked with them and we were to actually succeed in obtaining their signatures, we wouldn't be able to tell them apart.....could this be a cunning, holistically confusing tactical ploy being considered by the devious and ingenious Spafia ??

OK perhaps not, but they do look alike to me.

[Ted Hughes]

"We’ve always had an ambition that at least four to six players in the team would come through this Academy. In the team." Brian Marwood.

Not sure how that would stack up with signing overrated but young players like Wilshere or was it an ambition for 10 year's time?

It's an ambition for when they are ready & then ongoing. Most are not ready but imo are ok to fill in.

[Ted Hughes]

If this is the calibre of signing we are aiming for during the summer I'll be very disappointed.

Obviously they aren't, but find some alternatives to fill the five squad places for homegrown players we have to fill next season, or otherwise be five players short.

People do get this don't they ?

If we sign De Bruyne, Pogba & Messi, & Ronaldo we have to sell 4 overseas players to make way for them. So even if we do that, we then have Hart, Clichy & Boyata & 5 empty spaces which can only be filled by homegrown players, so we have a senior squad of 20 rather than 25 unless we sign some uk grown players.

[blues2win]

We only have 23 at the moment unless my maths are wrong and that includes Richard Wright so we don't need 25 it seems. I'm excluding Negredo Guidetti Rekik Lopes Zuculini from the list on the website plus Richards Sinclair and Nastasic who shouldn't be there in the first place. If we add in Denayer and Lopes in the Summer we could do with one or two home grown imports but not 5. The danger is paying ridiculously over the odds for them. I actually think Wilshere is a good player but it's not obvious he wants to leave or that Arsenal want to sell. I really don't think Liverpool will sell their Captain. Since we need a couple of home grown in I'd take them from the EDS with money found for a top buy or two from selling some of our foreigners.

[Nigels Tackle]

If this is the calibre of signing we are aiming for during the summer I'll be very disappointed.

Obviously they aren't, but find some alternatives to fill the five squad places for homegrown players we have to fill next season, or otherwise be five players short.

People do get this don't they ?

If we sign De Bruyne, Pogba & Messi, & Ronaldo we have to sell 4 overseas players to make way for them. So even if we do that, we then have Hart, Clichy & Boyata & 5 empty spaces which can only be filled by homegrown players, so we have a senior squad of 20 rather than 25 unless we sign some uk grown players.

whose fault is that?

[Ted Hughes]

We only have 23 at the moment unless my maths are wrong and that includes Richard Wright so we don't need 25 it seems. I'm excluding Negredo Guidetti Rekik Lopes Zuculini from the list on the website plus Richards Sinclair and Nastasic who shouldn't be there in the first place. If we add in Denayer and Lopes in the Summer we could do with one or two home grown imports but not 5. The danger is paying ridiculously over the odds for them. I actually think Wilshere is a good player but it's not obvious he wants to leave or that Arsenal want to sell. I really don't think Liverpool will sell their Captain. Since we need a couple of home grown in I'd take them from the EDS with money found for a top buy or two from selling some of our foreigners.

I don't include Wright. Surely not again ?

The EDS players don't need to be in the squad, they qualify on the B list as U21s. But how many go from not even being good enough in the manager's eyes to get 5 mins as a sub v Sheff Wed, to playing Champions League ?

We can't bring in 5 signings for the Champions League, only two, so we would have Hart, Clichy plus two signings, or Hart Clichy pkus two empty spaces. The others would have to be club trained & we don't have any other over 21s for that job other than Boyata.

As it stands our squad would be 17 players plus Hart Clichy & Boyata & 5 empty places. The the U21s on the B list.

If we are happy with 20 players plus kids then fine but we were moaning line fuck about it this season.

So if we decide we need a couple extra, players like Henderson & Wishire become a possibility.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Schneiderlin can fill a homegrown place until Dyke's rule changes go through.

And Pogba I believe also qualifies as homegrown, not 100% on that.

And of course there's always Bale.

There's Ward-Prowse too.

There's some decent homegrown options out there that will probably cost more than Henderson and Wilshire ( or maybe not ) but worth it to pay the extra imo ( if we can afford it ).

[Ted Hughes]

Schneiderlin can fill a homegrown place until Dyke's rule changes go through.

And Pogba I believe also qualifies as homegrown, not 100% on that.

And of course there's always Bale.

There's Ward-Prowse too.

There's some decent homegrown options out there that will probably cost more than Henderson and Wilshire ( or maybe not ) but worth it to pay the extra imo ( if we can afford it ).

Pogba would be homegrown French. Only spent one year at the rags. Ward Prowse or Maybe Will Hughes from Derby could be possibles but once again, they would be taking up positions where we may well have better players coming through.

We don't really have a Henderson type player.

[Wonderwall]

Schneiderlin can fill a homegrown place until Dyke's rule changes go through.

And Pogba I believe also qualifies as homegrown, not 100% on that.

And of course there's always Bale.

There's Ward-Prowse too.

There's some decent homegrown options out there that will probably cost more than Henderson and Wilshire ( or maybe not ) but worth it to pay the extra imo ( if we can afford it ).

Pogba would be homegrown French. Only spent one year at the rags. Ward Prowse or Maybe Will Hughes from Derby could be possibles but once again, they would be taking up positions where we may well have better players coming through.

We don't really have a Henderson type player.

Please not Will Hughes, plus he signed a new contract this season. He has openly slagged us off, I really dislike him, he is an arrogant prick.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Schneiderlin can fill a homegrown place until Dyke's rule changes go through.

And Pogba I believe also qualifies as homegrown, not 100% on that.

And of course there's always Bale.

There's Ward-Prowse too.

There's some decent homegrown options out there that will probably cost more than Henderson and Wilshire ( or maybe not ) but worth it to pay the extra imo ( if we can afford it ).

Pogba would be homegrown French. Only spent one year at the rags. Ward Prowse or Maybe Will Hughes from Derby could be possibles but once again, they would be taking up positions where we may well have better players coming through.

We don't really have a Henderson type player.

Pogba was with the Rags from Oct. 2009 until June 2012. The rule states 36 months or 3 full seasons before the age of 21. The reason I'm not 100% is because of the start date that was held up over the proceedings Le Havre took against the Rags.

[PrezIke]

I believe I read somewhere that if Pogba was transferred back to England by the last January window he would have been considered "homegrown."

[PrezIke]

Also interesting Wenger felt the need to respond to the rumours about us trying to nick Wilshire saying Arsenal don't have to sell anymore.

I agree with those expressing concern about his injury record, and as stated elsewhere, I am no huge fan of Henderson. decent squad player for a good team...somewhat of a Milner-lite. Seems we may be concerned about the home-grown issue if this is true.

Maybe better to buy Barkley, as it would certainly be much lower than the ridiculous sum quoted last summer.

To think some think these new home grown rules will help? Seems more like the inflated prices of such players will only go up, and weaker players may get more chances to hurt their teams' chances to win.

Some form of salary "cap" or other restrictions would seem to be a better use of "socialism" in the sport than strengthening homegrown player rules. If anything should be learned from history it is that when nations become too protectionist it often backfires, and can lead to newer, "unforeseen" problems.

[Wonderwall]

Also interesting Wenger felt the need to respond to the rumours about us trying to nick Wilshire saying Arsenal don't have to sell anymore.

I agree with those expressing concern about his injury record, and as stated elsewhere, I am no huge fan of Henderson. decent squad player for a good team...somewhat of a Milner-lite. Seems we may be concerned about the home-grown issue if this is true.

Maybe better to buy Barkley, as it would certainly be much lower than the ridiculous sum quoted last summer.

To think some think these new home grown rules will help? Seems more like the inflated prices of such players will only go up, and weaker players may get more chances to hurt their teams' chances to win.

Some form of salary "cap" or other restrictions would seem to be a better use of "socialism" in the sport than strengthening homegrown player rules. If anything should be learned from history it is that when nations become too protectionist it often backfires, and can lead to newer, "unforeseen" problems.

I think the press are concerned, have seen that we are light in this area for next season and are playing name games.
I would love to be someone at the top reading this shit and have a daily laugh.

[AntMcfc]

Wilshere is obviously better than any of our academy players, and he's the sort of player that runs Fernandinho close when he's on form, but his constant injuries are a problem and he's not really developed as a player over the last few years. He's a bit of a problem player for a team, he has quality but he has no real fixed position in a side. He doesn't know what his best position is and even if he quickly discovered where it was, it probably wouldn't be the type of role that's required in our side.

Henderson's a better central midfielder than Milner, I don't particularly rate Milner centrally. It'd be nice to have Henderson in the squad but he certainly isn't the type of marquee signing we should be going for. If we want English this summer, it has to be Sterling and Stones.

[Ted Hughes]

No Wilshire isn't 'obviously better' than any of our acadeny players' at all. He is older , more experienced but absolutely not 'obviously better' . He is slower, less fit & less dynamic than our attacking players & weaker, slower,less fit & less dynamic than many of our defensive ones.

He is also more injury prone, a lazy cunt & a cunt.

Fernandinho fucking destroyed him last season & he just lay down & fucking died. None of our kids would do that.

[Sister of fu]

Pogba was 3 months away from being classesed as home grown so wouldn't count.

[Ted Hughes]

I'm just now wondering if the links to Sterling, Henderson & now Coutinho, are actually just City slapping Liverpool across he face with a large dead fish, for trying to stir shit about Milner.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Pogba was 3 months away from being classesed as home grown so wouldn't count.

Knew it was too good to be true.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I'm just now wondering if the links to Sterling, Henderson & now Coutinho, are actually just City slapping Liverpool across he face with a large dead fish, for trying to stir shit about Milner.

That's not a bad shout, could well be onto something there.

[AntMcfc]

No Wilshire isn't 'obviously better' than any of our acadeny players' at all. He is older , more experienced but absolutely not 'obviously better' . He is slower, less fit & less dynamic than our attacking players & weaker, slower,less fit & less dynamic than many of our defensive ones.

He is also more injury prone, a lazy cunt & a cunt.

Fernandinho fucking destroyed him last season & he just lay down & fucking died. None of our kids would do that.

You are horribly, horribly deluded.