Pretty Boy Lee wrote:If we make paddy v manager this season or next I'm sending my cv in for when that falls apart.
guv111 wrote:Compared with the likes of Dzeko, Yaya and Nasri - who deserve every bit of the criticism they get - Kompany gets a pretty easy ride. Maybe some believe he's having a blip after years of sterling service, but at 29 he looks to me to be well into decline. As captain, he makes astonishingly rash choices, having shortcomings exposed and being sent off regularly in important matches, and being at the heart of a flimsy, make-it-up-as-you-go defence.
As far as I'm concerned, Kompany is every bit as responsible for this disaster of a season as the names usually mentioned.
sheblue wrote:guv111 wrote:Compared with the likes of Dzeko, Yaya and Nasri - who deserve every bit of the criticism they get - Kompany gets a pretty easy ride. Maybe some believe he's having a blip after years of sterling service, but at 29 he looks to me to be well into decline. As captain, he makes astonishingly rash choices, having shortcomings exposed and being sent off regularly in important matches, and being at the heart of a flimsy, make-it-up-as-you-go defence.
As far as I'm concerned, Kompany is every bit as responsible for this disaster of a season as the names usually mentioned.
Writing off top centre half's at 29 is a bit rash.
Im_Spartacus wrote:sheblue wrote:guv111 wrote:Compared with the likes of Dzeko, Yaya and Nasri - who deserve every bit of the criticism they get - Kompany gets a pretty easy ride. Maybe some believe he's having a blip after years of sterling service, but at 29 he looks to me to be well into decline. As captain, he makes astonishingly rash choices, having shortcomings exposed and being sent off regularly in important matches, and being at the heart of a flimsy, make-it-up-as-you-go defence.
As far as I'm concerned, Kompany is every bit as responsible for this disaster of a season as the names usually mentioned.
Writing off top centre half's at 29 is a bit rash.
I don't think its a case of writing him off, its more a case of taking the right economic decision for the club and stopping relying on sentiment. Sell him now whilst he has value, or wait another year or two and find this 'blip' isn't in fact a blip, it's a decline. If it is a decline (due to injuries??) we suffer in both performances and forfeit the 20/30m we could have had if we shipped him out in the summer.
At the moment, I would like to think that nothing is off the table for the club in terms of planning for our future
Ted Hughes wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:sheblue wrote:guv111 wrote:Compared with the likes of Dzeko, Yaya and Nasri - who deserve every bit of the criticism they get - Kompany gets a pretty easy ride. Maybe some believe he's having a blip after years of sterling service, but at 29 he looks to me to be well into decline. As captain, he makes astonishingly rash choices, having shortcomings exposed and being sent off regularly in important matches, and being at the heart of a flimsy, make-it-up-as-you-go defence.
As far as I'm concerned, Kompany is every bit as responsible for this disaster of a season as the names usually mentioned.
Writing off top centre half's at 29 is a bit rash.
I don't think its a case of writing him off, its more a case of taking the right economic decision for the club and stopping relying on sentiment. Sell him now whilst he has value, or wait another year or two and find this 'blip' isn't in fact a blip, it's a decline. If it is a decline (due to injuries??) we suffer in both performances and forfeit the 20/30m we could have had if we shipped him out in the summer.
At the moment, I would like to think that nothing is off the table for the club in terms of planning for our future
And replace with who, at what cost ? How are we doing on replacing Lescott ? Have we reached £100 million yet ?
Im_Spartacus wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:sheblue wrote:guv111 wrote:Compared with the likes of Dzeko, Yaya and Nasri - who deserve every bit of the criticism they get - Kompany gets a pretty easy ride. Maybe some believe he's having a blip after years of sterling service, but at 29 he looks to me to be well into decline. As captain, he makes astonishingly rash choices, having shortcomings exposed and being sent off regularly in important matches, and being at the heart of a flimsy, make-it-up-as-you-go defence.
As far as I'm concerned, Kompany is every bit as responsible for this disaster of a season as the names usually mentioned.
Writing off top centre half's at 29 is a bit rash.
I don't think its a case of writing him off, its more a case of taking the right economic decision for the club and stopping relying on sentiment. Sell him now whilst he has value, or wait another year or two and find this 'blip' isn't in fact a blip, it's a decline. If it is a decline (due to injuries??) we suffer in both performances and forfeit the 20/30m we could have had if we shipped him out in the summer.
At the moment, I would like to think that nothing is off the table for the club in terms of planning for our future
And replace with who, at what cost ? How are we doing on replacing Lescott ? Have we reached £100 million yet ?
Well herein lies the issue. Lets assume that Kompany's problem is fitness related and he is in decline
It seems to me that the club's approach to these problems in the last couple of years has been to bury their head in the sand, but when it comes to age problems don't go away, they get worse. So the club can keep him, with an adverse impact both on and off the pitch, or they can sell him and use the money wisely to sign a replacement.
The main issue with replacement is to scope out exactly what we would need. Are we trying to find a replacement for Captain Kompany of 2011, or the silent Kompany of 2015? The first is unrealistic, its almost impossible, the 2nd resembles a very average premier league defender who occasionally has noteworthy games. Somewhere in between is what is needed for us to give us consistency and stability in the defensive unit.
Selling him is a gamble, but these gambles are where management earn their money. I reckon sports scientists in the club should be able to spot a genuine decline if it exists, and will already be raising questions about his fitness. But eventually we will have to sign his replacement, I just advocate we do it when it's economically prudent given his downward trajectory in performances over the last 2/3 years.
Wooders wrote:Here is my fantasy (probably will never happen) squad for next season
Aguero
Reus Bale
Berkeley
Pogba fernandino
Bertrand Denayer Kompany Richards (yes MICAH Richards!)
Begovic
Subs: Hart Mangala Zaba Fernando Silva Lopes Bony
Rest of the team in reserve aside from:
Dzeko, Yaya, Nasri, Jovetic, Kolorov, Milner, Sagna, callebero, Negredo, Sinclair, Lampard, Navas who will all be heading for the door of I was in charge
DoomMerchant wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:If we make paddy v manager this season or next I'm sending my cv in for when that falls apart.
Your CV which includes winning every fucking trophy on offer, you fat fuck?
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