Milner

[South Stand Balti]

I think the briefing is that he doesn't want to go abroad because he has a very young family. Presumably he'll get a signing on fee so he won't be completely free. I dare say he wants a four year contract but he'll probably last quite well because he looks after himself and he was never that quick in the first place. I just don't see Arsenal. He's not a classic defensive midfielder and they've got so many midfielders much more technically gifted than he is. The dippers are much more likely imo.

I just can't understand why he would want to go to the dippers and take a step down. He must still have some ambition. The problem with players without much pace is that they still lose half a yard and are no longer any use at prem level. Just cannot see the dippers though, unless it's just a financial decidion

[Blue2]

135 k a week for someone like Milner is fuckign stupid money but if thats what they have offered then he should fuckign take it and stop his stalling tactics.

Theres no way on gods earth City will promise him x amount of game time , Milner has one good game every 3 games imo and then only as a sub....and a great impact sub he is , most of the time.

Just read that he has turned down a 34 million contract.....................I always thought most footballers were thick but not that fuckign thick.

Anyway , IF THIS IS TRUE , then Im happy hes fuckign off as Im sure we can spend 34 million on a game changer of a player rather than a head down and run in any posiiton player.

A good summing up.

Very overrated based on the fact he is English and "gives 100% every game" Truth is that he isn't all that good and has been holding us to ransom all season. When he gets a chance for a run in the team she is usually shit. Good riddance.

[Blue2]

Also if he is that good and available on a free the top teams will be queueing up for him......maybe not, cant see Chelsea, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid signing him even on a free.

[bayblue]

Also if he is that good and available on a free the top teams will be queueing up for him......maybe not, cant see Chelsea, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid signing him even on a free.

I agree but guess that's not the point. I can't see any of the above racing to sign a Ramires or Pedro but players like them, and Milner, are invaluable for a big club.

Of course he isn't a superstar but I'd like to keep him as a valuable squad player; and if he doesn't want to stay then good luck to him as he's been a great asset for us whilst he's been here.

[Mase]

Also if he is that good and available on a free the top teams will be queueing up for him......maybe not, cant see Chelsea, PSG, Barcelona or Madrid signing him even on a free.

I agree but guess that's not the point. I can't see any of the above racing to sign a Ramires or Pedro but players like them, and Milner, are invaluable for a big club.

Of course he isn't a superstar but I'd like to keep him as a valuable squad player; and if he doesn't want to stay then good luck to him as he's been a great asset for us whilst he's been here.

I think the main issue is that players like Ramires and Pedro know that they are squad players. Milner clearly doesn't.

[Wooders]

Quite right. Milner had an important role at the club but is either sensible enough to realise his "central midfield" role will not happen here because he just isn't good enough or daft enough to feel undervalued because he thinks he should start ahead of people like silva.

It's all well and good saying we won't find another player who can do what he does and is homegrown etc etc and that we're "laughable" for being ok with him not accepting a contract he is nowhere near bring worth - the fact is, he doesn't want to do the job he has here he wants to be a central midfielder, and he just ain't good enough to do that here, or any side who are credibly aiming to win the league.
The truth is if he wasn't English most people wouldn't be remotely arsed.

[DoomMerchant]

As much as I like Jimmy the fact is if he doesn't want to be at City then he needs to fuck off !

He's a good lad and been a humble servant. He shouldn't fuck off. He's allowed to want different challenge in life. I don't begrudge him that. Things are probably fairly stale in the dressing room as well as on the pitch. Change cannot be underrated I find in life.

Just hope wherever he goes that he has a case of the stomach flu every time we play them.

Cheers

[Ted Hughes]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

[Wonderwall]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

[Ted Hughes]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

[Im_Spartacus]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

He strikes me as a fairly genuine type of guy, dedicated to his craft. If, having won every domestic trophy on offer, he feels he could be a bigger part of something at another club, I can sympathise with that view.

I certainly don't think though that any club would be offering the 165k a week we're allegedly offering, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that to City. It sort of seems that there is a campaign briefing against him coming from somewhere to show him up as a greedy twat, and I can't help think that this can only be coming from inside the club. It wouldn't surprise me if we have offered nowhere near that amount, and someone inside the club is simply spinning the story to reduce the perceived reputational damage of losing a player who actually wants to go and play football elsewhere in the prime of his career.

[Ted Hughes]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

He strikes me as a fairly genuine type of guy, dedicated to his craft. If, having won every domestic trophy on offer, he feels he could be a bigger part of something at another club, I can sympathise with that view.

I certainly don't think though that any club would be offering the 165k a week we're allegedly offering, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that to City. It sort of seems that there is a campaign briefing against him coming from somewhere to show him up as a greedy twat, and I can't help think that this can only be coming from inside the club. It wouldn't surprise me if we have offered nowhere near that amount, and someone inside the club is simply spinning the story to reduce the perceived reputational damage of losing a player who actually wants to go and play football elsewhere in the prime of his career.

They may not pay his wages, but they are getting a £20 mil player for nothing, so if he pockets ten as a signing on fee, they still have a bargain.

The campaign to show him as a greedy twat, is mainly coming from some fans imo. The club are just showing the fans they are trying to keep him, which, if they didn't, they would be getting loads of shit from fans saying they weren't trying, & how various people should be sacked for it, as they do with every single transfer which doesn't go through.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is at City next season. He is a Yorkshireman; this is what they do. He'll probably just nod, rather than actually signing the contract.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

He strikes me as a fairly genuine type of guy, dedicated to his craft. If, having won every domestic trophy on offer, he feels he could be a bigger part of something at another club, I can sympathise with that view.

I certainly don't think though that any club would be offering the 165k a week we're allegedly offering, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that to City. It sort of seems that there is a campaign briefing against him coming from somewhere to show him up as a greedy twat, and I can't help think that this can only be coming from inside the club. It wouldn't surprise me if we have offered nowhere near that amount, and someone inside the club is simply spinning the story to reduce the perceived reputational damage of losing a player who actually wants to go and play football elsewhere in the prime of his career.

They may not pay his wages, but they are getting a £20 mil player for nothing, so if he pockets ten as a signing on fee, they still have a bargain.

The campaign to show him as a greedy twat, is mainly coming from some fans imo. The club are just showing the fans they are trying to keep him, which, if they didn't, they would be getting loads of shit from fans saying they weren't trying, & how various people should be sacked for it, as they do with every single transfer which doesn't go through.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is at City next season. He is a Yorkshireman; this is what they do. He'll probably just nod, rather than actually signing the contract.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's with us next season, either. Although Slim mentioned a while back that he might be off to Liverpool, seeing himself as the new Stevie Starfish, which is still a little niggle in the back of my mind.

[Wonderwall]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

He strikes me as a fairly genuine type of guy, dedicated to his craft. If, having won every domestic trophy on offer, he feels he could be a bigger part of something at another club, I can sympathise with that view.

I certainly don't think though that any club would be offering the 165k a week we're allegedly offering, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that to City. It sort of seems that there is a campaign briefing against him coming from somewhere to show him up as a greedy twat, and I can't help think that this can only be coming from inside the club. It wouldn't surprise me if we have offered nowhere near that amount, and someone inside the club is simply spinning the story to reduce the perceived reputational damage of losing a player who actually wants to go and play football elsewhere in the prime of his career.

The wage story has to be bollox. Why would we restructure everyone elses salary to fit with ffp but not jimmy's.

[mr_nool]

I don't really get how some fans can laugh at the deluded scousers for giving Sterling shit, and then in the same breath talk down Milner or call him a greedy cunt.

[iwasthere2012]

They may not pay his wages, but they are getting a £20 mil player for nothing, so if he pockets ten as a signing on fee, they still have a bargain.

The campaign to show him as a greedy twat, is mainly coming from some fans imo. The club are just showing the fans they are trying to keep him, which, if they didn't, they would be getting loads of shit from fans saying they weren't trying, & how various people should be sacked for it, as they do with every single transfer which doesn't go through.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is at City next season. He is a Yorkshireman; this is what they do. He'll probably just nod, rather than actually signing the contract.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's with us next season, either. Although Slim mentioned a while back that he might be off to Liverpool, seeing himself as the new Stevie Starfish, which is still a little niggle in the back of my mind.

If it turns out he stays, I won't be overly surprised TBH and would be happy enough with that. He's served us well and will do again if asked, I'm sure. I wouldn't guarantee him any more playing time than he's getting though, which is plenty. He'll play the role he's asked to and if that doesn't suit him then I wish him well, if he does move on.
I don't think it's a foregone conclusion yet though.

[freshie]

Can we just knock this idea of him wanting more playing time on the head once and for all ? I posted the antidote to that nonsense on here fucking ages ago; he is one of the main players picked in almost every big game we play (which should make one or two of you who don't value him, at least spend a few seconds to consider why that is & who replaces it, in real life rather than fantasy football world, if he goes ). It's a bullshit excuse & a media cliche.

I can understand he wants to get the best possible financial deal, & he wants to make sure that there is stability in the future & that a new manager isn't likely to come in & drop him, but if he leaves for any other reason, it's simply because he wants to go somewhere else.

I agree ted, which makesbit all the more strange. Where can he go thats better than where he is and on better terms? Its a mind boggler

Unless he doesn't want a better team ?

Perhaps he just wants loads of money, & a new challenge, & thinks he'll be out on his arse anyway as soon as Pep Guardiola arrives ?

Another alternative is that he's just been after more money & wants to see how keen City are to keep him, & will actually sign.

He strikes me as a fairly genuine type of guy, dedicated to his craft. If, having won every domestic trophy on offer, he feels he could be a bigger part of something at another club, I can sympathise with that view.

I certainly don't think though that any club would be offering the 165k a week we're allegedly offering, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that to City. It sort of seems that there is a campaign briefing against him coming from somewhere to show him up as a greedy twat, and I can't help think that this can only be coming from inside the club. It wouldn't surprise me if we have offered nowhere near that amount, and someone inside the club is simply spinning the story to reduce the perceived reputational damage of losing a player who actually wants to go and play football elsewhere in the prime of his career.

The wage story has to be bollox. Why would we restructure everyone elses salary to fit with ffp but not jimmy's.

Because everyone else's contracts were negotiated before the news that the FFP regulations are to be relaxed

[Wonderwall]

Because everyone else's contracts were negotiated before the news that the FFP regulations are to be relaxed

So they renegotiated it since yesterday? Blimey, quick workers

[Sparklehorse]

I think Milner has changed a couple of games when coming on as sub, and I certainly don't think he's a great player but just a good one now and again. What I do admire him for though is attitude and work rate, which is something that a lot of our more stellar players have been sadly lacking at certain points of the season. I wish him well whatever he chooses, but at the contract figures quoted I hope he chooses a new challenge !!!

[Wooders]

I don't really get how some fans can laugh at the deluded scousers for giving Sterling shit, and then in the same breath talk down Milner or call him a greedy cunt.

I don't think anyone in this thread who has that opinion "suddenly" think he's hideously average (or just plain shit in somes view) - it's a view we haven always held about him as opposed to many many scousers who think their former golden boy is pants