Ireland v England

[Nigels Tackle]

This is what life is like and will always be like with this fucking muppet in charge.
I didnt see the match and wont see anymore England matches whilst bag puss is in charge of them..........he s a complete fuckign spastic.

the sad thing is that we have the green shoots of a promising team emerging. with bungle at the helm, there's no way he'll get the best out them. sunday summed him up.

[carl_feedthegoat]

This is what life is like and will always be like with this fucking muppet in charge.
I didnt see the match and wont see anymore England matches whilst bag puss is in charge of them..........he s a complete fuckign spastic.

the sad thing is that we have the green shoots of a promising team emerging. with bungle at the helm, there's no way he'll get the best out them. sunday summed him up.

I dont even get angry anymore as I really couldnt give 2 shits what England do or dont do........this coming from a fanatical fan of yesteryear who never missed a minute of a match.

He will be there until we are dead and buried.....during the Euros it is then.

[MilnersJaw]

Masterclass sterling great performance. Can't wait for him to pull on the blue

so much for you fucking off...

One last rant before I log off for good.

[nottsblue]

This is what life is like and will always be like with this fucking muppet in charge.
I didnt see the match and wont see anymore England matches whilst bag puss is in charge of them..........he s a complete fuckign spastic.

I have made a similar vow. Not to watch England whilst Shrek is captain. I haven't missed it one little bit it must be said

[Mikhail Chigorin]

This is what life is like and will always be like with this fucking muppet in charge.
I didnt see the match and wont see anymore England matches whilst bag puss is in charge of them..........he s a complete fuckign spastic.

I have made a similar vow. Not to watch England whilst Shrek is captain. I haven't missed it one little bit it must be said

Yesterday I heard a wry comment about Shrek which I quite liked.

The character who uttered it said that Shrek's ball control was so bad that if he had the same, corresponding degree of trouble with his bowel control, then he would be in a right mess.

[Bianchi on Ice]

I only watched the last 20 minutes. Sat down with a sandwich and a coffee. The thing I thought Hodgson would do when he became manager is try not to be too clever, play within the teams limitations and play his low intelligence footballers in their rightful positions, and try to forge some understanding on the pitch between his more intelligent ones. Sadly, it seems he reads the papers that think our players can do no wrong just because they are used to playing with 8,9, even 10 players who arent English which masks their limitations, but are so fucking good according to the media that they can do anything for England , play anywhere, even though most of us know that a lot arent great technically, make basic unforced errors too often and some just dont handle the pressure or thrive playing at this level. So... What does this cunt do? plays phil jones at right back. He is so bad it unsettles the ENTIRE team, and if he was the only choice after clyne im speechless. If he played for anyone other than the scum he wouldnt get picked again...which is why I wont watch England anymore...its ridiculous.

[Im_Spartacus]

The fact that Rooney is about to break the England scoring record, despite not putting in a decent performance since Euro 2004, tells you everything you need to know about how the England team is, and always has been picked, along with the utter dross quality of the majority of matches.

Boring, mind-numbing drivel. I haven't seen England play since Rooney's outburst in South Africa 2010, and unless things change significantly, won't be doing again for a very long time.

Total national embarrassment

[iwasthere2012]

The fact that Rooney is about to break the England scoring record, despite not putting in a decent performance since Euro 2004, tells you everything you need to know about how the England team is, and always has been picked, along with the utter dross quality of the majority of matches.

Boring, mind-numbing drivel. I haven't seen England play since Rooney's outburst in South Africa 2010, and unless things change significantly, won't be doing again for a very long time.

Total national embarrassment

This seems to be the opinion of most English supporters on here. Just a couple of genuine questions.
1. Is this the overriding opinion of The English support that you know of. i.e. is is the opinion of other clubs supporters or is it something that City supporters feel more acutely because of the seemingly biased nature of the team selection.

2. If the management wasn't an issue, who would you like to see playing for England in place of those that are being picked because of the club they play for.

I'm genuinely interested, because I do actually agree that England have got a far bigger and better pool of players to draw from than the likes of us (Ireland)
and could and probably should be able to compete at the latter end of World and European tournaments.

[Im_Spartacus]

1. I think any football forum users tend to read more widely and don't just accept what the red top newspapers 'tell' us, and so are probably far more engaged with the game of football, and almost certainly more knowledgeable and cynical than the average passive fan. For this reason, no, I'm not typical amongst my friends, who still seem to want to make an effort to watch England. When asked though, they all say they are disappointed in the feeling that the national team have been going through the motions for years now.

2. I can at least understand the financial reasons behind why Rooney plays every game, and on raw talent, he should always be in and around the squad. On effort, he shouldn't have played in the last 10 years and as soon as I realised that he is picked time and time again not because he plays for the rags, but because the FA's sponsors demand it, to some extent was the death of my interest in English international football. Once you know that the team is largely a product of the FA's commercial department, you kinda realise why Rooney doesnt put a shift in, he knows he doesn't have to as he will always be picked until someone with a bigger profile comes along, and that is just so anti-football I fucking hate it. Even the champions league has more integrity than the English FA

The issues come around the likes of Jones playing at right back. I don't know who was available for selection this time round, but there must be better right backs than Duncan Edwards out there, and friendlies are for trying new players, what the fuck did he learn about Jones that he didn't already know?

For me it's not a club bias, it's simply that England managers seem to be conditioned to lose their backbone the minute they are appointed,

[Wonderwall]

1. I think any football forum users tend to read more widely and don't just accept what the red top newspapers 'tell' us, and so are probably far more engaged with the game of football, and almost certainly more knowledgeable and cynical than the average passive fan. For this reason, no, I'm not typical amongst my friends, who still seem to want to make an effort to watch England. When asked though, they all say they are disappointed in the feeling that the national team have been going through the motions for years now.

2. I can at least understand the financial reasons behind why Rooney plays every game, and on raw talent, he should always be in and around the squad. On effort, he shouldn't have played in the last 10 years and as soon as I realised that he is picked time and time again not because he plays for the tags, but because the FA's sponsors demand it, to some extent was the death of my interest in English international football

The issues come around the likes of Jones playing at right back. I don't know who was available for selection this time round, but there must be better right backs than Duncan Edwards out there, and friendlies are for trying new players, what the fuck did he learn about Jones that he didn't already know?

For me it's not a club bias, it's simply that England managers seem to be conditioned to lose their backbone the minute they are appointed,

Clyne was sat on the bench John, that's what makes it a complete nonsense, I bet he left the ground on Sunday and felt totally disillusioned with Hodgson. I know I would have.

[Dubciteh]

1. I think any football forum users tend to read more widely and don't just accept what the red top newspapers 'tell' us, and so are probably far more engaged with the game of football, and almost certainly more knowledgeable and cynical than the average passive fan. For this reason, no, I'm not typical amongst my friends, who still seem to want to make an effort to watch England. When asked though, they all say they are disappointed in the feeling that the national team have been going through the motions for years now.

2. I can at least understand the financial reasons behind why Rooney plays every game, and on raw talent, he should always be in and around the squad. On effort, he shouldn't have played in the last 10 years and as soon as I realised that he is picked time and time again not because he plays for the rags, but because the FA's sponsors demand it, to some extent was the death of my interest in English international football. Once you know that the team is largely a product of the FA's commercial department, you kinda realise why Rooney doesnt put a shift in, he knows he doesn't have to as he will always be picked until someone with a bigger profile comes along, and that is just so anti-football I fucking hate it. Even the champions league has more integrity than the English FA

The issues come around the likes of Jones playing at right back. I don't know who was available for selection this time round, but there must be better right backs than Duncan Edwards out there, and friendlies are for trying new players, what the fuck did he learn about Jones that he didn't already know?

For me it's not a club bias, it's simply that England managers seem to be conditioned to lose their backbone the minute they are appointed,

Rooney is englands best player for me, id of started him in nearly every game for the last ten years too.....just sayin...

[Im_Spartacus]

1. I think any football forum users tend to read more widely and don't just accept what the red top newspapers 'tell' us, and so are probably far more engaged with the game of football, and almost certainly more knowledgeable and cynical than the average passive fan. For this reason, no, I'm not typical amongst my friends, who still seem to want to make an effort to watch England. When asked though, they all say they are disappointed in the feeling that the national team have been going through the motions for years now.

2. I can at least understand the financial reasons behind why Rooney plays every game, and on raw talent, he should always be in and around the squad. On effort, he shouldn't have played in the last 10 years and as soon as I realised that he is picked time and time again not because he plays for the tags, but because the FA's sponsors demand it, to some extent was the death of my interest in English international football

The issues come around the likes of Jones playing at right back. I don't know who was available for selection this time round, but there must be better right backs than Duncan Edwards out there, and friendlies are for trying new players, what the fuck did he learn about Jones that he didn't already know?

For me it's not a club bias, it's simply that England managers seem to be conditioned to lose their backbone the minute they are appointed,

Clyne was sat on the bench John, that's what makes it a complete nonsense, I bet he left the ground on Sunday and felt totally disillusioned with Hodgson. I know I would have.

FFS, that's appalling. You can see why players want to pack it in if they don't get games in situations like that when they are spending additional time away from families - particularly at this time of year when international fixtures are a nonsense

[Ted Hughes]

The fact that Rooney is about to break the England scoring record, despite not putting in a decent performance since Euro 2004, tells you everything you need to know about how the England team is, and always has been picked, along with the utter dross quality of the majority of matches.

Boring, mind-numbing drivel. I haven't seen England play since Rooney's outburst in South Africa 2010, and unless things change significantly, won't be doing again for a very long time.

Total national embarrassment

This seems to be the opinion of most English supporters on here. Just a couple of genuine questions.
1. Is this the overriding opinion of The English support that you know of. i.e. is is the opinion of other clubs supporters or is it something that City supporters feel more acutely because of the seemingly biased nature of the team selection.

2. If the management wasn't an issue, who would you like to see playing for England in place of those that are being picked because of the club they play for.

I'm genuinely interested, because I do actually agree that England have got a far bigger and better pool of players to draw from than the likes of us (Ireland)
and could and probably should be able to compete at the latter end of World and European tournaments.

I switched on the radio a couple of weeks ago & had a rare ten minutes listening to either talkshite or 5 live, & there were a bunch of hacks discussing the retirement of Lampard & Gerrard, then they expanded it to include why Englabd couldn't make it work when we appeared to have a pool of top quality players.

Two points made: one said Lampard was basically a much more clever player than Gerrard, with a much better undrrstanding of tactics etc. And as to the question of why England couldn't function as a team with these two pkus Scholes etc, the unanimous answer: Beckham!

Beckham had to play due to his celebrity & basically fucked the team up for the other, better players was the unanimous answer. Exactly what I was saying & tbf I even know rags who said it. The hacks all agreed on this. So where were these fucking wankers when Beckham was England captain ? How many journos felt like this & how many had the balls to say it at the time?

Can anyone on here remember a decent number of football writers saying drop Beckham so Scholes, Gerrard & Lampard can play properly & England will be a better team ? I can't fucking remember one saying it.
I bet they will say it about Rooney in 10 years, whilst kissing his arse now.

The wankers who work in our press, get the team they deserve.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

This is what life is like and will always be like with this fucking muppet in charge.
I didnt see the match and wont see anymore England matches whilst bag puss is in charge of them..........he s a complete fuckign spastic.

the sad thing is that we have the green shoots of a promising team emerging. with bungle at the helm, there's no way he'll get the best out them. sunday summed him up.

Even ScouseScum sacked him because he wasn't fit for purpose and for that set of losers to come to that conclusion, it sums up Woy's abilities in a nutshell

[Hazy2]

The fact that Rooney is about to break the England scoring record, despite not putting in a decent performance since Euro 2004, tells you everything you need to know about how the England team is, and always has been picked, along with the utter dross quality of the majority of matches.

Boring, mind-numbing drivel. I haven't seen England play since Rooney's outburst in South Africa 2010, and unless things change significantly, won't be doing again for a very long time.

Total national embarrassment

This seems to be the opinion of most English supporters on here. Just a couple of genuine questions.
1. Is this the overriding opinion of The English support that you know of. i.e. is is the opinion of other clubs supporters or is it something that City supporters feel more acutely because of the seemingly biased nature of the team selection.

2. If the management wasn't an issue, who would you like to see playing for England in place of those that are being picked because of the club they play for.

I'm genuinely interested, because I do actually agree that England have got a far bigger and better pool of players to draw from than the likes of us (Ireland)
and could and probably should be able to compete at the latter end of World and European tournaments.

I switched on the radio a couple of weeks ago & had a rare ten minutes listening to either talkshite or 5 live, & there were a bunch of hacks discussing the retirement of Lampard & Gerrard, then they expanded it to include why Englabd couldn't make it work when we appeared to have a pool of top quality players.

Two points made: one said Lampard was basically a much more clever player than Gerrard, with a much better undrrstanding of tactics etc. And as to the question of why England couldn't function as a team with these two pkus Scholes etc, the unanimous answer: Beckham!

Beckham had to play due to his celebrity & basically fucked the team up for the other, better players was the unanimous answer. Exactly what I was saying & tbf I even know rags who said it. The hacks all agreed on this. So where were these fucking wankers when Beckham was England captain ? How many journos felt like this & how many had the balls to say it at the time?

Can anyone on here remember a decent number of football writers saying drop Beckham so Scholes, Gerrard & Lampard can play properly & England will be a better team ? I can't fucking remember one saying it.
I bet they will say it about Rooney in 10 years, whilst kissing his arse now.

The wankers who work in our press, get the team they deserve.

not his biggest fan but he did take us to WC the others were guilty of taking us where?

[Bianchi on Ice]

...remember the gnashing of teeth when beckham got injured?...at that moment the whole team was undermined because one player was touch and go to play in the tournament. Sparty is right...it seems like whoever manages england is suddenly overcome by an attack of indecisivness. Eriksson just sat on his hands letting it happen. It was a fucking circus. It still is.

[Wonderwall]

...remember the gnashing of teeth when beckham got injured?...at that moment the whole team was undermined because one player was touch and go to play in the tournament. Sparty is right...it seems like whoever manages england is suddenly overcome by an attack of indecisivness. Eriksson just sat on his hands letting it happen. It was a fucking circus. It still is.

Theo Walcott, a babe in arms and taken to a WC finals and not played, not even a minute! Thats the FA in a nutshell. Shambles

[Bianchi on Ice]

...remember the gnashing of teeth when beckham got injured?...at that moment the whole team was undermined because one player was touch and go to play in the tournament. Sparty is right...it seems like whoever manages england is suddenly overcome by an attack of indecisivness. Eriksson just sat on his hands letting it happen. It was a fucking circus. It still is.

Theo Walcott, a babe in arms and taken to a WC finals and not played, not even a minute! Thats the FA in a nutshell. Shambles

Yeah id forgotten that gem. Eriksson saying he wouldnt have played him no matter what. So after owen was crocked we had rooney and crouch to play unchanged through the rest of the world cup...top notch management all round.