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Re: sterling

Postby patrickblue » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:51 am

Ted Hughes wrote:I'm not convinced Liverpool have turned it down as such. I think they may be negotiating about how it's paid.

Just seemed to take a long time for news to spread that it had been turned down. I'm not sure the media have got anything solid on it.


I tend to agree with that. There's no direct quotes, just someone from talkshite or somesuch saying he had inside info it would be turned down.
Then a day or so after all the media started copying each others stories. All seems very chinese whisperish to me..
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Re: sterling

Postby bigblue » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:00 am

Bianchi on Ice wrote:
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blues2win wrote:The Sun has a picture of Sterling on holiday sucking suspiciously from a balloon just weeks after being caught inhaling laughing gas.


I don't see anything remotely wrong with that. It's not even illegal and has virtually 0 effect on his physical or mental ability. Who are the 'holier than thou' idiots who hold 20 year old footballers to be a role model?


But does it give you jazz hands when you run? I may have to research it


Sergio often gets jazz hands whenever he scores:

http://streamable.com/e150

So either Sergio's a balloon head or scoring a goal has the same effect as taking some laughing gas
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Re: sterling

Postby iwasthere2012 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:34 pm

Don't know if anyone is interested. It's from some guy called Barney Ronay in The Guardian. I don't know of him, I'm sure some of you will..
I'm not averse to having Sterling and the thoughts of him Sergio and Silva together does whet the appetite. I just would hope we will stick to our guns price-wise, which I think is already too much(but it's not my money)
I feel a bit ambivalent about this transfer. I understand why we are in for him, but I would much rather have the likes of Reus or Isco if they were available.
Anyway it's a slow news week.


Raheem, mate. I’ve been there. I’ve walked that road. I too have stared into the hippy crack abyss. The side-effects, let me tell you, have been pretty severe. Eight years down the line I’m still constantly tired. I no longer socialise normally, instead spending most of my free evenings staring at Foyle’s War with a packet of Doritos Roulette and a bottle of Taste the Difference Riesling. Quite often I hear voices. Annoying, shrill, demanding voices.

Admittedly there is a fair chance the source of these side-effects is having children rather than the dilute nitrous oxide the NHS offers to women having babies – and by extension to any opportunistic co-parent willing to go the extra yard and really share the birth experience while the nurse is out of the room. And, to be fair, Raheem has probably got this one right in the end. Gas and air, as doctors insist on calling this dangerous drug routinely handed out to women in labour and people having fillings, probably is best consumed on a yacht surrounded by laughing beautiful people in designer swimwear.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, let’s all just relax. Deep breaths. Push a little harder. Together we can get past the perineum-shredding idiocy of pretending to be upset about the sight of young men having fun, legally, while on holiday. And focus instead on the far more interesting business of a British record transfer that increasingly looks as though it may actually happen.

From the outside there is an air of final divvyings-up about the current negotiations between Liverpool and Manchester City over Sterling’s future, a sense that what is being ironed out is the manner of his departure not the fact. With this in mind it has probably been a little overlooked in the general noises off but this would be a genuinely fascinating, not to mention good and timely move for both parties.

Most obviously it’s good for City, who need a general flushing out, not only of the team and the project but the air inside the dressing room. Yaya Touré has been the defining player of New City 1.0, with his bolt-on champion’s swagger. In Sterling City will get more of a grower, a star presence and 20-year-old first-team regular (which he will be: Jesús Navas played 47 times last season). More immediately he offers a note of textural variation to that well-seasoned attack, a little speed and raw aggression to complement David Silva’s frictionless craft and Sergio Agüero’s cutting edge.

Even the price tag is probably fair enough if we accept the skewing of the market. Sterling is expensive because he’s English. But he’s also expensive because he’s good. Although, it is here, in the extent of Sterling’s ability, the sense of uncertainty over what he may still become, that the real interest lies.

There has been a sourness to some of the how-good-is-he-really stuff in the past few weeks, driven perhaps by the lurking shadow of what we might call the Sterling Paradox. Here is a player with all the trappings: the style, the outline and the moves of a really high-class footballer. But who is still, in terms of impact, and indeed by any sensible measure, still simply circling around the idea of actually being a high-class footballer. In a sense Sterling’s performance in Manaus for England against Italy a year ago was a definitive little sketch of where he is right now. For an hour he was brilliant. And yet somehow he didn’t really do anything. Despite looking the boldest, bravest and most technically refined young footballer on the pitch, Sterling still had less of an effect on the actual result than Mario Balotelli.

Increasingly this sense of almost-but-not-quite has been Sterling’s chief quality, a flickering promise of future excellence, a high-class rustling away at the edge of things.

Sterling has so many attributes, from his control and manipulation of the ball, to his physical robustness (defenders can often be seen bouncing off his prodigious rump), to the mental strength to shine at the sharp end of a title race. Not to mention that beautifully waspish way of moving, neck straight, legs pumping, looking always slightly flustered, like a friendly bath‑time rubber duck that has grown legs, learned to run around and integrated itself successfully into human society but still feels terribly worried its cover may be blown at any moment.

It is what Sterling lacks right now that is most interesting, raising as it does the question of exactly what a top-class attacking footballer needs to do these days. For so long English football has obsessed over basic technique and retention of the ball but in more recent times the key quality in elite attacking play seems to be something further, a kind of applied intelligence, the ability to interpret and manage the game around you.

Modern football is essentially a kind of suffocation, a battle for space. What is required is not only precision but an early-warning sense of where the currents will move, where weakness will show itself. It is a quality probably best embodied by someone such as Andrés Iniesta, who simply drifts about in his own portable pocket of space, always two carefully calibrated steps ahead, like a man playing football against a team composed entirely of slow-moving cinematic zombies of the 1970s.

By contrast Sterling often still seems to be all brittle, high-tension endeavour, operating right at the peak of his speed and intensity, never quite ahead of the game. With this in mind a move to City may be just what he needs to open that footballing third eye a little further. Sterling’s best days at Liverpool came alongside Luis Suárez, whose special superpower, it turns out, is to flood the front end of any team with his own relentless creative intelligence. Just as Sterling bloomed next to Suárez, he would surely do so alongside Silva and Agüero, absorbing by osmosis, filling in the gaps in his range, adding the missing gears.

It may be a difficult birth. But what happens next, the reimagining of Raheem, will be fascinating for reasons that have little to do with Uppity Young Men Who Should Know Better, or the perils of medical sedatives, and everything to do with exploring the outer reaches of a very obvious talent.
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Re: sterling

Postby PrezIke » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:45 pm

Caught that earlier as well. It's a good piece that summarizes the reasons those that want him on City quite well.
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Re: sterling

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:08 pm

Great article. Hope we tie this up soon if we're going to do it.

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Re: sterling

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:49 pm

Osmosis with Silva and Aguero.ffs ! He can't control the ball ! More likely to get in the way.
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Re: sterling

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:54 pm

Barney Ronay used to write in When Saturday Comes, although I'm not sure if he still does. Always enjoyed reading his articles along with this of Harry Pearson.
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Re: sterling

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:03 pm

I like Foyle's War.
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Re: sterling

Postby sheblue » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:04 pm

Aren't those tossers an awful shower of lemons you would think they would have the cop on to accept the offer and get on with it. Wonkers.
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Re: sterling

Postby phips » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:27 am

why should they?
they know we're desperate for quality English players and have barrels of petrol cash to spend. they're calling our bluff about the "final offer" knowing that we will inevitably be back with another, higher "final offer"
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Re: sterling

Postby bigblue » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:14 am

Maybe we could throw in a few inflatable bananas for him to huff and seal the deal
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Re: sterling

Postby Mase » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:21 am

phips wrote:have barrels of petrol cash to spend.


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Re: sterling

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:50 am

phips wrote:why should they?
they know we're desperate for quality English players and have barrels of petrol cash to spend. they're calling our bluff about the "final offer" knowing that we will inevitably be back with another, higher "final offer"


Total and utter bollox, he may be the preferred option, but do you seriously think he is our only option????? It seems to me that he is many of the fans only option, like spoilt children


..... Conversely no other club, English or other wise have made a bid for Sterling, so NO THEY DO NOT HAVE US OVER A FOOKIN BARRELL (petrol cash filled or any other).
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Re: sterling

Postby Moonchesteri » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:17 am

Mase wrote:
phips wrote:have barrels of petrol cash to spend.


Sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely a City fan


He's not.
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Re: sterling

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:24 am

CTID Hants wrote:
phips wrote:why should they?
they know we're desperate for quality English players and have barrels of petrol cash to spend. they're calling our bluff about the "final offer" knowing that we will inevitably be back with another, higher "final offer"


Total and utter bollox, he may be the preferred option, but do you seriously think he is our only option????? It seems to me that he is many of the fans only option, like spoilt children


..... Conversely no other club, English or other wise have made a bid for Sterling, so NO THEY DO NOT HAVE US OVER A FOOKIN BARRELL (petrol cash filled or any other).


I think it's the 'having us over a barrel' thing which is key to the deal. They think they are the biggest club in the world, so they want it to look like they have 'won' this by making us pay much more than we were willing to pay. But of course that will never happen. We have a value, we will go to around that figure & if they take the piss, we will walk.

I expect both clubs know that & are just playing it out so Liverpool get to look clever, & we get the player. Same as with Everton & Lescott.

If that's not the case & Liverpool fuck this up, they are really fucking stupid.
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Re: sterling

Postby zuricity » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:26 am

CTID Hants wrote:
phips wrote:why should they?
they know we're desperate for quality English players and have barrels of petrol cash to spend. they're calling our bluff about the "final offer" knowing that we will inevitably be back with another, higher "final offer"


Total and utter bollox, he may be the preferred option, but do you seriously think he is our only option????? It seems to me that he is many of the fans only option, like spoilt children


..... Conversely no other club, English or other wise have made a bid for Sterling, so NO THEY DO NOT HAVE US OVER A FOOKIN BARRELL (petrol cash filled or any other).



You've saved me replying.

Sterling is an average player.
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Re: sterling

Postby Dameerto » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:00 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:
Mase wrote:
phips wrote:have barrels of petrol cash to spend.


Sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely a City fan


He's not.

That was my first thought too.
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Re: sterling

Postby phips » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:03 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
phips wrote:why should they?
they know we're desperate for quality English players and have barrels of petrol cash to spend. they're calling our bluff about the "final offer" knowing that we will inevitably be back with another, higher "final offer"


Total and utter bollox, he may be the preferred option, but do you seriously think he is our only option?????

i like to think that im good at reading English and don't quite see where i said he was our only option. maybe im not as good as i thought though.
that being said, i def think the club prefers him to Delph and Wilshire, and, as such, will continue to bid despite saying they won't.
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Re: sterling

Postby phips » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:04 pm

Dameerto wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:
Mase wrote:
phips wrote:have barrels of petrol cash to spend.

Sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely a City fan

He's not.

That was my first thought too.

I'm not. I've only been here 4 years because i enjoy the pleasure of your guys' company. you're stand up gentleman and ladies.
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Re: sterling

Postby Original Dub » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:16 pm

Petrol dollars?

You snidey little cunt. Get fucked. How the fuck is this clown still on the board?!
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