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Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:11 pm

www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtw ... 2015-35-31

What do you think? Seems bit low but to be fair FourFourTwo is the prime football magazine in the world and have never show any sort of agenda.

Considering his lack of silverware over his career, I suppose that's fair.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:12 pm

They will be updating top 30 during the week.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-50-best-football-managers-world-2015-35-31

What do you think? Seems bit low but to be fair FourFourTwo is the prime football magazine in the world and have never show any sort of agenda.

Considering his lack of silverware over his career, I suppose that's fair.


it's a ridiculous position
but i suppose we won't be able to argue when bodgers makes it into the top 10
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:39 pm

The fact that Del Bosque is on that list makes it hard for me to take it seriously. Sorry.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:46 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:The fact that Del Bosque is on that list makes it hard for me to take it seriously. Sorry.


You don't consider only manager to win World Cup, European Championship and Champion's League to be worthy of a spot?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby nottsblue » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:19 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-50-best-football-managers-world-2015-35-31

What do you think? Seems bit low but to be fair FourFourTwo is the prime football magazine in the world and have never show any sort of agenda.

Considering his lack of silverware over his career, I suppose that's fair.

Would argue World Soccer is a better publication.

Also, Rebrov? Really
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:30 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-50-best-football-managers-world-2015-35-31

What do you think? Seems bit low but to be fair FourFourTwo is the prime football magazine in the world and have never show any sort of agenda.

Considering his lack of silverware over his career, I suppose that's fair.

Would argue World Soccer is a better publication.

Also, Rebrov? Really


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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:56 am

nottsblue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-50-best-football-managers-world-2015-35-31

What do you think? Seems bit low but to be fair FourFourTwo is the prime football magazine in the world and have never show any sort of agenda.

Considering his lack of silverware over his career, I suppose that's fair.

Would argue World Soccer is a better publication.

Also, Rebrov? Really


I would disagree strongly. Although the two magazine's have different aim. World Soccer is more of a reporting magazine about what's going on in footbalm right now wheras FourFourTwo is clearly more journalistically ambitious and concentrates on in depth analysis of bigger issues in the game than what happened last month. There's room for both and I've been subscriber of both for many years. I still subscribe FourFourTwo and pick up World Soccer almost every month.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:41 pm

You don't consider only manager to win World Cup, European Championship and Champion's League to be worthy of a spot?


I honestly don't know much about his Champion's league efforts but I do know that he has provided nothing as manager of the Spanish national team and in fact, have made them play worse than they could've. With the players that he has available for selection, doped up, I could have won the world championship and the euros. In fact, I would probably not have gone out in the group stages in the last world cup either.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:01 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
You don't consider only manager to win World Cup, European Championship and Champion's League to be worthy of a spot?


I honestly don't know much about his Champion's league efforts but I do know that he has provided nothing as manager of the Spanish national team and in fact, have made them play worse than they could've. With the players that he has available for selection, doped up, I could have won the world championship and the euros. In fact, I would probably not have gone out in the group stages in the last world cup either.


Vicente Del Bosque who has won World Cup and are European Championship holders with Spain? Am I missing something here?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:01 pm

Vicente Del Bosque who has won World Cup and are European Championship holders with Spain? Am I missing something here?


I'm gonna raise you one and say that Spain would've won those titles with my mother as a manager. I would of course be the waterboy
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:29 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
You don't consider only manager to win World Cup, European Championship and Champion's League to be worthy of a spot?


I honestly don't know much about his Champion's league efforts but I do know that he has provided nothing as manager of the Spanish national team and in fact, have made them play worse than they could've. With the players that he has available for selection, doped up, I could have won the world championship and the euros. In fact, I would probably not have gone out in the group stages in the last world cup either.


Vicente Del Bosque who has won World Cup and are European Championship holders with Spain? Am I missing something here?

With the quality of players he had to call on, and the depth of that quality, I think even steve coppell would have made the semis at least.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby PrezIke » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:35 am

this ranking is rather ridiculous. #35?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:22 am

Is it current managers or past and present?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:02 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:They will be updating top 30 during the week.


where's the update?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby dazby » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:47 pm

I know that Anchovies is considered number 9.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:02 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:They will be updating top 30 during the week.


where's the update?


Bottom of the page. Jose is, unsurprisingly, number one.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Scatman » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:39 am

It's best managers and yet quotability is one of the factors.

Really?
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby MilnersJaw » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:43 am

Scatman wrote:It's best managers and yet quotability is one of the factors.

Really?


ian holloway must be number 2 then behind jose.
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Re: Pellegrini #35 in 50 Best Managers List

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:03 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:
Scatman wrote:It's best managers and yet quotability is one of the factors.

Really?


ian holloway must be number 2 then behind jose.


'arry is in with a shout in that criteria too. Did they have 'repartee with the fans' too, like Swales?
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