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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby gillie » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:47 pm

Mancio has learnt his trade from some top coaches most notably Sven right!.Well under Sven, Hamman played some of his best football at our club imo.Now Didi was'nt the quickest on two legs but the brain was still as sharp as ever so he fitted Sven's system perfectly.Now Vieira could be Mancio's Didi but with more stlye if you know what i mean.My opinnion Paddy V will turn out to be a masterstroke signing for Mancio.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby Blue Blood » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:01 am

All will done and dusted today according to..

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/vie ... ster-City/

and

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/vie ... -top-four/

Looking more and more like a done deal, fingers crossed.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby BobKowalski » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:57 am

Nick wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:How come it's suddenly ok to fill the team with defensive midfielders when it was criminal to play more than one just a few weeks ago & to even be linked with signing one brought many of the people championing this signing to make comments like 'why the fuck do we need another defensive midfielder?' & 'clueless cunt' etc?

Could it be that it was a load of fucking shite such people were spouting then or is it a load of shite they're spouting now because one things for sure; it has to be one or the other.

From my point of view, I wouldn't have complained if we'd signed one then & I'm not complaining now. If he's fit enough he'll do ok.



This was exactly my point. Whilst I do like Mancini and its not his fault what happened to hughes, if hughes was trying to sign veira and VERON and setting up so defensively hughes would have been crucified. Its double standards.

My issue is not with Veiras talents, its his promises of first team football which could mean he players regardless of form.

And the veron thing I cant bring myself to talk about. If Mancini has been on the phone to veron about PLAYING in our team then . . . . . . . .


Its not double standards. Its more an issue of trusting Mancini's judgement over Hughes. It may be unfair especially as the squad we have is very good in my opinion and most of the signings where done by Hughes but I still never quite trusted his judgement. Plus the signings were more us hitting clubs over the head with wodges of cash until they surrended so no great skill involved, except perhaps the one signing I didn't want which was Bellamy. That in retrospect was a stroke of genius - except for the 4 and a half year contract. That bit was stupid.

I can see for fans of Hughes that it must be baffling and I can see why they are making an issue of the Vieira (I mean seriously a f**king poll?) and Veron situations but Veira is a short term deal to get experienced leadership in the dressing room and Veron I don't care about either way. If Mancini wants Veron then he can have Veron. Now if Hughes wants Veron then he is a clueless idiot but thats only because in my opinion Hughes is a clueless idiot so by default anything he does is clueless until proven otherwise. In fairness to all of us who thought Hughes a clueless idiot pretty much from the getgo events did prove us right. As someone on BM put it Hughes had 80% of the qualities needed to be a football manager. The only bit missing was the ability to manage a football team. Ironically this was said by Hughes supporter :)

Anyway Mancini in a short time has earnt respect and trust. I have no idea how it will pan out long term or whether this repsect and trust is misplaced. What I do know is that I ain't getting bent out of shape over a short term deal for Vieira. If it works great. If it don't so be it.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby ronk » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:12 am

Over Hughes? Whatever other criticisms Hughes' transfer record has stood up to scrutiny and he would have had the benefit of the doubt from most. It was the rabidly anti-Hughes ones who would have been going mad.

Mancini has no track record for buying players in England. People are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's managed both these players touted, he's not taking a huge risk, they've played in England for big teams and they've proven themselves at the top level, more than once.

Hughes wasn't sacked because he wasn't a good manager (he was/is), he was sacked because he wasn't bringing us forward quickly enough. We're probably about 8-10 points behind where we could and should be. It's significant enough that it cost him his job, but it's not enough to make him a disaster. It's not unblemished, but his record holds up tolerably well on further scrutiny.

I'm 100% behind Mancini and think he's doing a better job so far than Hughes but I still disagree with people who call Hughes a clueless idiot and who feel justified in saying that everything he does is clueless until proven otherwise. It's not a good starting point for analysis.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby dazby » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:28 am

Grob wrote:Vieira still has that aura about him. Experienced leader. A winner.

The fact that he can still play a bit is a bonus.

No problem with me, sign him up. Central midfield is the area of the team where we have the least depth. Only De Jong, Barry and Ireland at a push can perform there at a high standard in our squad currently.


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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby ronk » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:31 am

dazby wrote:
Grob wrote:Vieira still has that aura about him. Experienced leader. A winner.

The fact that he can still play a bit is a bonus.

No problem with me, sign him up. Central midfield is the area of the team where we have the least depth. Only De Jong, Barry and Ireland at a push can perform there at a high standard in our squad currently.


Zabba and Vinnie.


Garrido has done okay there.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby CityFanFromRome » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:32 am

Well Zabba seems to be the first choice for RB at the moment, and Vinnie is needed in central defence until the emergency there ends, but I wouldn't be so sure of him moving away from there even once Ned is fit and Tourè is back, not to mention Lescott, as Vinnie is doing a great job there, so those two options for homding midfielder seem to not be available either. If De Jong gets an injury/suspension we only have Barry atm that can cover that position, or we could play Vinnie there but end having to play Boyata as CB (which would not be a disaster given his debut, but playing him too often might end being too much of a gamble right now). This is why getting Vieira on loan for six months doesn't look so silly to me, especially because we could have gone for Gago or tourè, but then we would have two top holding midfielders battling for one spot when the squad is complete, and either one who gets left out might end being unhappy.

This way instead we fill a gap for six months, then evaluate again in the summer if really there is a need to sign another def midfielder or now.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby nickson71 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:19 am

ronk wrote:
dazby wrote:
Grob wrote:Vieira still has that aura about him. Experienced leader. A winner.

The fact that he can still play a bit is a bonus.

No problem with me, sign him up. Central midfield is the area of the team where we have the least depth. Only De Jong, Barry and Ireland at a push can perform there at a high standard in our squad currently.


Zabba and Vinnie.


Garrido has done okay there.


They have done ok in midfield BUT

one's a rightback, another is a left back and I'm sure that VK played CB at Hamberg and Belgium and the way it's looking he may be dropped back into that role by Mancini. Could we be signing Vierra to replace Vinnie who is now dropping in the CB role.

We do need to sign a CB or 2 so maybe Vinnie is the CB and a midfield replacement was needed.
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby BoltFromTheBlue » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:24 am

Medical this afternoon before signing 18 month deal
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Re: Manchester City agree deal with Inter Milan for Vieira?

Postby OliverHardy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:30 am

yeah, was never going to be a loan deal as his contract with Inter runs out at the end of the season
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