This Weeks Other Games | 3-4 Oct 15

[DoomMerchant]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

[I Just Blue Myself]

scouse 1 v scouse 2
arse v rags
bayern v phips
milan v napoli
atletico v real

some big games tonight!

not sure what result I want here in liverpool derby.. obviously an everton win would be brilliant...but if that means the joker rodgers is sacked (and possibly replaced with someone like klopp?) is that something we want?

psg v marseille and ajax v psv as well.

[Sister of fu]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

I'm a bit anti flare me and would love a few hard thought 1-0. Love clean sheets. Not many players seem arsed when they conced. Our Joe is one of the only ones I see flipping his lid. Did you see him on Wednesday chasing the defenders back to the half way line going mental. I love that about him. Oh and you know my feelings on boots

[Beefymcfc]

Lucas should've been off then. The ref goes for the card, realises that he's already been booked, then just gives the FK. This allows Brentan to sub him off.

Only for certain clubs, eh.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

I'm a bit anti flare me and would love a few hard thought 1-0. Love clean sheets. Not many players seem arsed when they conced. Our Joe is one of the only ones I see flipping his lid. Did you see him on Wednesday chasing the defenders back to the half way line going mental. I love that about him. Oh and you know my feelings on boots

Claudio Gentile was my hero.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

I enjoy these weekends when we get the 3 points on Saturday then can watch the teams we hate on Sunday and any result is a good one.

The 1-1 Scouse Derby was ideal: keeps Brenda in a job but not enough to relive the pressure on him. Come on the Arse.

[DoomMerchant]

Lucas should've been off then. The ref goes for the card, realises that he's already been booked, then just gives the FK. This allows Brentan to sub him off.

Only for certain clubs, eh.

Refereeing is poor. The game's too fast. The players too crafty. And the line between getting it right and fucking it up big time is paper thin. Everyone else - the clubs, the media the players -- all have the benefit of video and multiple angles. Only the Refs don't. It's really put them in a place where they are fearful and hesitant and second guessing themselves too much. They'd rather make the non call than get the call wrong. It's almost as if they train them that way.

Video replay for key decisions fixes it all. The pace challenges. The indecision. And even the alleged bias.

Until they make that change Refs will get it wrong more than right I think.

Cheers

[nottsblue]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

I'm a bit anti flare me and would love a few hard thought 1-0. Love clean sheets. Not many players seem arsed when they conced. Our Joe is one of the only ones I see flipping his lid. Did you see him on Wednesday chasing the defenders back to the half way line going mental. I love that about him. Oh and you know my feelings on boots

I also love not to concede. I would've rather won 5-0 than 6-1.

It riles me when we concede late on even if the game is in the bag

[DoomMerchant]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

I'm a bit anti flare me and would love a few hard thought 1-0. Love clean sheets. Not many players seem arsed when they conced. Our Joe is one of the only ones I see flipping his lid. Did you see him on Wednesday chasing the defenders back to the half way line going mental. I love that about him. Oh and you know my feelings on boots

I also love not to concede. I would've rather won 5-0 than 6-1.

It riles me when we concede late on even if the game is in the bag

They scored first yesterday btw.

Cheers

[blues2win]

Come on Arsenal!

[nottsblue]

The art of defending is dead. Two shocking goals from a defensive point of you. Why can't teams defend anymore.

It's so not in fashion at a youth level in the states. I'm sure at the same everywhere. Kids don't want to do the hard work of defending and by the time people realize they're capable they've missed the trick and they're in their mid to late teens and they're behind the curve.

As a student of history of the game tho I may not have watched it then, it seems as if "Defending as an art form" seems to have fallen out of serious fashion after the decline of Serie A about 15 years ago and the kids coming up now feasted on the likes of attacking players with fancy dancy bullshit. Black boots aren't just an anomaly but more like unicorn shit.

Related, my son had to agree to get a pair of Copas next summer in order to buy his fancy adidas yellow and black shoe of the season and they are nice boots but these kids need to see defending as a noble art form that is just as important as scoring a goal. He plays as a fullback and his natural OCD sense of self is that he cannot stand disorganization and it leads him to some staunch defending. He could play literally anywhere in the outfield but his Columbian coach "gets it" and said its just his nature to defend.

Unless youth coaches use that measuring stick and do better then we are going to have another 10-20 years of players just focused on the goal porn FIFA style stuff. I get that. It's a coaching problem in the states. Think it's the same in England?

Even Serie A is less defense-minded as well now.

People want Goals. TV wants goals.

I just want a balanced attacking team. Always looking to exploit. It's hard work being a defender when there is so much emphasis on the attack and speed and power of these players.

Anyway. Rant over.

Thoughts?

I'm a bit anti flare me and would love a few hard thought 1-0. Love clean sheets. Not many players seem arsed when they conced. Our Joe is one of the only ones I see flipping his lid. Did you see him on Wednesday chasing the defenders back to the half way line going mental. I love that about him. Oh and you know my feelings on boots

I also love not to concede. I would've rather won 5-0 than 6-1.

It riles me when we concede late on even if the game is in the bag

They scored first yesterday btw.

Cheers

Obviously.

But my point is given a choice between 5-0 and 6-1 I'd take 5-0. Even though it's the same goal difference and better to score more I'd sooner have the clean sheet

[Moonchesteri]

I'm fully expecting another gutless arse performance v the rags which seems to be the norm for them these days

Betfair gives odds of 3.95 for rags win. Ridiculous imo

[johnny99]

Ha ha ha 2-0

[Beefymcfc]

Unreal start from Arsenal, 2-0 in six minutes. Rags longball dribbled back through them into the net.

Get in!

[steelsnail]

Ha ha ha 2-0

Funny as fook

[blues2win]

Get the fuck in 2-0!

[steelsnail]

Tyler and Neville ain't lovin it ...chuckle

[iwasthere2012]

This is the weekend that just keeps giving and giving.

[Original Dub]

Spurs one nil down to Swansea.
Mad weekend

[Beefymcfc]

Seems the Rags plan is to keep it tight at the back and kick it long for Marshall when they eventually get the ball. Looks like this plan has been sussed already and I'm wondering when Plan B kicks in with Fellaini hitting the field?

Arse need to put them to the sword, on the counter with speed. If they sit back from here it'll drain their spirits and a Rag goal could turn the game.

Ha ha ha, just as I type!