Klopp or flop?

[Mase]

I hope Plopp goes and does terrible and not only takes them further down the league but ruins his reputation as well.

[Whassat]

Personally I see Klopp as Brendan MKII. If he signs I fully except him to turn around the rot and make them challenge again for a top four spot. However, as Brendan failed, I reallly don't think he will make it at Scouce 1 ultimately. If nothing else, their Premier League era history tells us that much.

[Spurge]

The key question is whether or not Klopp (or indeed whoever takes the reigns) will attract big name signings. They have become a selling club, even ex players like Thompson, Rush, Carragher and Aldridge are admitting as much now, they have to start attracting big name signings if they are going to compete at the top level.

The rags realised Moyes was not going to attract big name players and addressed the situation relatively quickly, though thankfully LVG seems to know how to alienate people meaning its not been a smooth transition (though we can't ignore the fact he got them champs league and are only 2 points behind us currently however poorly he has them playing).

Thankfully its taken the dippers a lot longer to realise Rogers wont take them forwards, I guess Ancelotti has the pedigree to attract the right type of player, though whoever eventually comes in I hope the football club continues to struggle.

[DoomMerchant]

I would be very surprised if they had not got Klopp's agreement before they sacked Brenda. This business about "we are going to approach Klopp now as our number one target" is a smokescreen IMO.

That's plain and clear IMO. It's probably very minor details they're figuring out (that is if he hasn't already signed the dotted line)

I find this all very odd. I just don't see why he would be attracted to Liverpool over Bayern. A manager of that reputation surely only resigns from his club and takes a break with something very specific in mind that he's already earmarked for, and I find it hard to believe that it's not Bayern.

On the subject of him taking a break though, I also think it could have simply been a crafty move from him, as if he had another season like the last one at Dortmund, his star would have been well and truly on the wane and Liverpool would probably have been his level.

Because Liverpool are looking for a manager and Bayern might be in 6 months.

It seems unlikely that he resigned on the off chance that he could land a very tough upper/mid table job in England. He will be one of the few people who know, along with pep, exactly what is happening at Bayern at the end of the season.

Consider also the potential compensation Bayern would have had to pay Dortmund, anther potential explanation for klopp quitting, if he is being paid for this year anyway by the back door. I wouldn't put it past the slimy cunts at Munich.

All theories, perhaps all bullshit, but I just find it implausible that he quit on the off chance of the Liverpool or Spurs job coming up. If he did he's a raving fucking lunatic

agree with all that. It seems fucking bizarre. If i were him i'd rather stayed at Dortmund and PM'd phips for tactical support to get the team back to the top.

It could be that since he's resigned tho he's realized that Pep isn't fucking leaving, or that Bayern aren't so hot to trot on him and have someone else in mind.

if i were Klopp i'd fucking rather go to Italy and coach any one of Roma, Milan or Inter next season than fuck around with Liverpool.

I just don't see how Klopp will succeed at Liverpool without complete control over transfers since his system is 100% about "his" type of player at each position and he won't have the motors to get it done which will mean...fucking failure imho. He'll get some of them to give the new manager syndrome a run out for a couple months, maybe even through the end of this season...end up 5th or 6th or 4th who knows...but if he can't shift about 4-5 bodies next summer he'll be fucked next season and looking for work again within 18 months i bet. And these Scouse filth players outside of Cuntinho (say 20-25M) and Sturridge (still 15-20M despite injuries) have very little value in the transfer market.

it's a goddam poisoned chalice for sure.

cheers

[PeterParker]

I think the key is actually how is he in the Bayern situation right now.

If Pep told Bayern he is leaving next summer, I am really certain that the bavarians made a contact with Klopp. So, where is he standing in this? Will he wait for them or go to Liverpool?

[Mase]

If he goes to Liverpool I hope he gets murdered as well

[Clowncrete]

He could easily flopp. His high pressing style really wears players out and causes a bundle of injuries. Dortmund escaped relegation because they had a winter break which allowed a few players to rest and recover from injuries. Imagine his high pressing style with 4 to 5 games within 3 weeks around the Christmas period, no winter breaks, an extra few games since we have one cup more to play for and of course, Europa League. Add a few injury prone players like Sturridge to the mix and it could easily go wrong.

[nottsblue]

He could easily flopp. His high pressing style really wears players out and causes a bundle of injuries. Dortmund escaped relegation because they had a winter break which allowed a few players to rest and recover from injuries. Imagine his high pressing style with 4 to 5 games within 3 weeks around the Christmas period, no winter breaks, an extra few games since we have one cup more to play for and of course, Europa League. Add a few injury prone players like Sturridge to the mix and it could easily go wrong.

You're painting a very tasty picture there

[DoomMerchant]

If he goes to Liverpool I hope he gets murdered as well

light a candle now just for posting that, you prick. Then lay a wreath at the foot of your keyboard. Please.

cheers

[Mase]

If he goes to Liverpool I hope he gets murdered as well

light a candle now just for posting that, you prick. Then lay a wreath at the foot of your keyboard. Please.

cheers

I don't understand Yank

[DoomMerchant]

If he goes to Liverpool I hope he gets murdered as well

light a candle now just for posting that, you prick. Then lay a wreath at the foot of your keyboard. Please.

cheers

I don't understand Yank

I'm not bothered by your lack of interpretation.

cheers

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Plop would be taking a big gamble with his reputation should he take this job. They are not into spending money and the squad is shit. Plus there are at least 4 teams with bigger budgets and better squads than the dippers in the Premier League. He'd be better off waiting for the Chelsea job if he wants to come here, it'll be available this side of Christmas.

[Original Dub]

He's not fucking superman and there's no one going to sort out a mess like that with a budget the sunbed has left them.

I predicated this over a year year ago and it's going perfectly accordingly to plan.

Too much money spent and too small a club compared to the big hitters.

Goodnight and God bless.

Fucking deluded cunts

[Cocacolajojo1]

I like Klopp a lot and I have a pal who's an avid Dortmund fan and has very little else but good things to say about him. I hope he does ok enough to not ruin his career but not well enough to make reading the Guardian into a liverpool lovefest.

One thing though: He seems to be a one trick pony. His tactics got susses out in the Bundesliga and he tried to adapt to that but every attempt to change ended up bad or mediocre. He won't be granted the same respite here, as people already know about him and how he likes to play. Perhaps he'll take this chance to adapt but most Managers IMO seem to have one idea and they stick with that until their career ends. I like Klopp but don't see this working out well.

However, I think we should not buy into the transition talk that Rodgers has spouted. Liverpool are frail and not balanced, but neither were we when we came third in the league IMO. Well, perhaps we were more balanced but we certainly did not have the mental stability we have had afterthat. Such a squad can go a long way with the right leadership and the right system. Rodgers clearly hasn't had a clue how to utilize the players he's bought. If Klopp's more practical (which he might not be, see above) Liverpool could come good in a short while. For one thing, I'd be surprised if Klopp will not start to play to Benteke's strenghts, unlike that tactical genius did.

[Mase]

I have a pal who's an avid Dortmund fan

Okay okay we get it. You and Phips are good friends.

[lets all have a disco]

He'll do alright there i reckon but it will take more than three years as there is a lot of dross in that squad and it needs EVEN more money spending on it.
Klopp will have to dig out his little black book of cheapo but good German players.

[Cocacolajojo1]

Okay okay we get it. You and Phips are good friends.

Do you want to join our clique? Our common denominator is that we're completely full of ourselves.

[mcfc1632]

I am clearly in a minority.

I hope he goes there and hits the ground running and gets them in Top 4 this year.

I do not see redscouse as a threat to us - but would be fucking delighted if they could fuck up the scum

[AG7]

I am clearly in a minority.

I hope he goes there and hits the ground running and gets them in Top 4 this year.

I do not see redscouse as a threat to us - but would be fucking delighted if they could fuck up the scum

It will be at Chelsea's expense if anyone this season ... unless of course Pochetinio works some magic and those two (Liverpool and Spurs) both can get up into top 4. Everton might have an outside chance too this season.

[sheblue]

I actually like Klopp, think he is a very good manager. He could do a good job there if he gets the time and resources. He needs to do a lot of work with that squad, and whether he gets the money and time is another matter. They seem to want a quick fix, which isn't possible.