Vieira Signed (OFFICIAL)

[Beeks]

I am sick of city signing players and we come on here and try and justify the signing by saying things like

* He will be good to have in the dressing room
" He will teach the kids a few things
" He will be a good squad player

FFS We have had fully blown arguments on here about where we should be aiming for top drawer players who are better than we have. Its all been said before, so I am not going over old ground.

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

I'm sick of people coming on here and acting like

* We are signing him for a long term contract...when as stated for the umpteenth time its 6 months with an additional 12
* We can find a whole host of world class players despite the fact that most are with clubs in the middle of the CL
* That his wages are extortionate despite the fact he is on £100,000 at Inter
* They are delusional expecting Bobby to play him even if he's shit...if he's shit...he won't play and at the end of the season he will be gone

Fucking drama queens

[Original Dub]

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Veron didn't tell us to fuck off...Mancini has said he never approached him...media bullshit

It's six months with the option of another 12 for Vieira

So why the fuck are you throwing your dummy out of the pram is beyond me

First of all mate, if I did throw my dummy out of the pram I'm pretty fucking sure you'd be the first one to catch the fucking thing...

I've explained my reasons why I'm underwhelmed at signing Vieira on an 18 month contract. I agree its not risky, so no real harm done. But I'm not pretend to get excited about it when I don't think he was that good 5 years ago when he left. Now, Wenger doesn't want him, Inter don't want him and I should be delighted we got him??

Also, can you copy and paste the quotes from Mancini in which he said Veron is lying, because they were direct quotes from Veron when asked about a rumour?

Thanks.

[dazby]

I am sick of city signing players and we come on here and try and justify the signing by saying things like

* He will be good to have in the dressing room
" He will teach the kids a few things
" He will be a good squad player

FFS We have had fully blown arguments on here about where we should be aiming for top drawer players who are better than we have. Its all been said before, so I am not going over old ground.

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

We won't have a clue until we've seen him in a City shirt, there were plenty of people (or should that be idiots) that said many of the same things you have here when we signed Craig Bellamy, let's give him a couple of games before we condemn him eh?

The difference is Irbs the names have changed. WW, Dubbers and myself don't have form for slagging off signings.

[Blue Blood]

I am sick of city signing players and we come on here and try and justify the signing by saying things like

* He will be good to have in the dressing room
" He will teach the kids a few things
" He will be a good squad player

FFS We have had fully blown arguments on here about where we should be aiming for top drawer players who are better than we have. Its all been said before, so I am not going over old ground.

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

In my opinion i don't think we'll need to justify this. More justification was needed for the signings of say Santa Cruz and Bellamy at the time than this. Vieira, away from the arguments of age, money, ability, ect can still do a job for us. Its a transfer that makes sense and won't weaken us as a result.

As for why wenger sold him, Arsenal operate to make a profit. It made financial sense to them rather than football sense, plus they also had a young spanish chap coming though at the time. Given wenger's comments in the past few days its obvious he still rates him though.

And as for Inter i guess they have allowed him to go because mourinho just prefers others to him. it happens in football and given the squad they have and his want to play, i can understand why. it doesn't mean he's a bad player, i watched him play yesterday, was motm imo.

Time will tell on this one but no matter what city will not be harmed as a result of it.

[Bingo Lewis]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

[Wonderwall]

I am sick of city signing players and we come on here and try and justify the signing by saying things like

* He will be good to have in the dressing room
" He will teach the kids a few things
" He will be a good squad player

FFS We have had fully blown arguments on here about where we should be aiming for top drawer players who are better than we have. Its all been said before, so I am not going over old ground.

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

I'm sick of people coming on here and acting like

* We are signing him for a long term contract...when as stated for the umpteenth time its 6 months with an additional 12
I NEVER MENTIONED THE LENGTH OF THE DEAL
* We can find a whole host of world class players despite the fact that most are with clubs in the middle of the CL
JUST AS VIEIRA, BUT THEY ARE RELEASING HIM
* That his wages are extortionate despite the fact he is on £100,000 at Inter
I NEVER MENTIONED THE WAGES
* They are delusional expecting Bobby to play him even if he's shit...if he's shit...he won't play and at the end of the season he will be gone
I NEVER SAID THE MANAGER WOULD PLAY HIM IF HE WAS SHIT

Fucking drama queens

Please read before quoting me

[10.Goater_Legend]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

Spot on Bingo lad but to be fair to Mancini he did come out last night and state that we were never in for Veron.

[Beeks]

no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer.

fucking hallelujah!

[Wonderwall]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

we did well last January

[Ted Hughes]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

I prefer to think the Veron story comes from Veron bullshitting about a harmless conversation. The alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

[Original Dub]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

I know mate and I also know we aren't gonna suffer as a result of this signing - I just think its a pretty pointless one. He hasn't impressed me for a long time and someone earlier made reference to Haaman when he came..... Haaman came from Liverpool having played the last 5 years in the prem. Vieira was lagging when he left 5 years ago so I can't see him being a shining light.

I hope to fuck I'm wrong, but that's what threads are all about - I've been wrong about players in the past, but I'll blow my own trumpet and say 9 times out of ten I'm a pretty good judge on whether a player will be top or flop.

[Blue Blood]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Mate, come on.
You're turning into NQPD/Hughes on this subject.

Ah hold on there mate, its the biggest topic at the moment and I have a strong opinion on it. I'm in no way against Mancini, so far I think he's the bollox... and I'm confident his transfer targets will be better than these two, but its either I keep my mouth shut and say nothing or say what I really feel... which is what I always do!

I don't want to be a whinge bag and ruin other people's excitement over a new signing, but this guy can't into the Inter side and has stated that as a reason to the return to the faster premier league- a league he was faltering in 5 years ago.

I know you reckon Vieira will be an excellent short term signing, but I don't- 18 month contract at his age??!. Nor do I think it was right to go for Veron. Until Mancini shows me a target I'm even in the slightest bit happy, let alone disgusted about, I'm not gonna celebrate his transfer policy!

Sorry...

We've had this discussion about similar things for the past few years at this time of year. Its too easy to forget that no matter how much dough we throw at clubs, they ain't gonna sell their top players in January. I agree that Vieira isn't ideal, but he is just a stop gap until we can get real quality in the summer. Can't argue with you on the Veron front though. ewwww.

I prefer to think the Veron story comes from Veron bullshitting about a harmless conversation. The alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

To give Veron his due he was one of the best passers of the ball i've ever seen in his days at lazio BUT i'd never want him at city now. no no thank you sir.

[irblinx]

I am sick of city signing players and we come on here and try and justify the signing by saying things like

* He will be good to have in the dressing room
" He will teach the kids a few things
" He will be a good squad player

FFS We have had fully blown arguments on here about where we should be aiming for top drawer players who are better than we have. Its all been said before, so I am not going over old ground.

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

We won't have a clue until we've seen him in a City shirt, there were plenty of people (or should that be idiots) that said many of the same things you have here when we signed Craig Bellamy, let's give him a couple of games before we condemn him eh?

I could see the potential in bellamy, I am very sceptical about this transfer

So could I, in fact I was adamant at the time that he was exactly what we needed. My point is that there were plenty of people up in arms ("if he's so good why has he had so many clubs?") about that one just as you are now with Vieira, with a lot of the same arguments. Only time will tell if he's a good signing so there is absolutely no point decrying it now

[Beeks]

Either way...this thread will make an interesting read in a month or so

[ashton287]

no problem with signing Vieira, he's a monster on the pitch. he's awesome in the air defending set pieces (which we neeeed badly) and he will humble a few of the drama queens off the pitch aswell (see how cocky robbie is when its shower time). I think most people's problem is just that it kinda stinks of hughes/cruz again and it's not the villa signing everybody wants to see but no one can doubt his quality

[Dingus McDouchey]

As a last thought, If he is still so fantastic. Why did Wenger think it was best for Arsenal to cash in on him 4 years ago? If he is so fantastic, why have Inter Milan decided he is not worth keeping and they are releasing him when they have some huge games coming up in the Champs league and Domestically?

what have Arsenal won since he left?
what have Inter won while he's been there?
surely that's something to consider

[MaineRoadMemories]

I have a nagging feeling that he is just using City to make sure of his place in the World Cup. He will be asking to be a first team starter and that is what I'm not too keen on especially if it halts the development of De Jong.

For me this transfer is more akin to that of signing Steve McManaman (32 and from Real Madrid, won everything and not arsed about City as Liverpool were his English club) than the Craig Bellamy signing.

I so want to be proven wrong though as we are close to that fourth spot!

[saulman]

This transfer reminds me of the Bellamy signing last January.

Everyone absolutely knew that it was going to be a nightmare and Lesley was only wasting the clubs money. Everyone knew he'd disrupt the squad the minute he arrived and twat Robson with a golf club. Everyone knew that he's spend 95% of the time collecting huge wages whilst sitting on the treatment table. Everyone knew he was only signing because he was Lesleys best mate. Everyone knew,......... didn't they?

Well now that it's clear that everyone actually knew fuck all, why don't we all get behind this signing, put our trust in the new manager and stop fucking whinging.

[Blue Blood]

Winterburn just on SSN and you'd expect him to say it was a good move.

He basically said the only role he can see him playing at his age is the holding role and we already have players more than capable in that role. I agree completely.

And a year and a half on those wages?????

If its true its is a bad move, no doubt in my mind about that. This is one of those threads we're gonna flick back to in a year or two and I'll happily hold my hand up.

IMO This is the most underwhelming signing since the takeover and feel free to drag this back up.

Thank Christ Veron told us to fuck off.

Its one of those transfers where people are going to be naturally split. Half for, mainly on basis of his undoubted ability and nature of the short term deal and half against, mainly due to age and cost.

In the end one side will be right the other wrong but city will really be no worse off for making the signing.

Either he'll succeed and we'll benefit or he'll flop and we'll still have the same squad and be in the same strong position we were prior and he'll be gone by the summer.

Either way its not a transfer with huge amounts of risk to it.

I repeat, it depends on his playing status. If he's a first choice player, he'll be holding de Jong's progress and world cup aspirations for purely his own French World Cup playing motives.

I'd rather we sign a defender or a young attacking mid.

If i'm honest and someone gave me a choice of what i'd sign i'd pick a defender also, but we've gotta trust the italian on this one.

I'd like to think when vieira does come in de jong is gonna give him a run for his money for a starting berth because he is that good.

i really rate de jong.

i don't think he'll be held back by the vieira arrival, either way i really can only see this as good for city, players fighting it out for a spot can only be a good thing for us surely, granted it may stunt the growth of vieira/de jong/barry's international aspirations but surely its up to them to raise there game and get in to both squads on merit at the peak of there powers, rather than limp into them because there all that is avaliable.

[Crossie]

I am underwhelmed by this.

Its probably our strongest position in the squad. De Jong, Kompany, Barry are all near world class players in that position, Zabs is good back up, Vieira was a great player, but im sure we cant keep the 4 mentioned players happy for 18 months, and i like all those players.

What we needed was a centre back version of Vieira, someone whose been there and done it.

Ill cheer him on, but im just not that impressed, especially for rumoured wages.