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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Slim » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:46 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!


TBH I am wondering what the hell this is all about as well.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby nottsblue » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:52 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means. The reality is that it's much more than the valuation, it's the market we now have a direct path to break into. The Rags et al have been trying to break this market for years then we go the opposite way and ensure that they actually sell it for us. How fucking good is that.

There's loads to read out there but for a short summary go to the Sky piece, but if you want a down to earth overview, Simon Mullock has done a nice piece in the Mirror; a Blue in disguise I feel.

Mirror Article - They Have Overtaken The Rags In So Many Areas

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:58 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!

Even if there was a hint of that we'd be going from one Super Rich fucker to another. The reality is that we now have a partnership with China, and I mean China as a country, not just a few businessmen trying to make a profit.

Does anybody think the visit by China was just a coincidence, where the reality was that they wanted to go to the Rags instead?

Thought not.

The likes of Saggers can't, in their worse nightmares, comprehend what is happening here. When the reality dawns, it'll be too late.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:00 pm

Slim wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!


TBH I am wondering what the hell this is all about as well.

Maybe political?
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby nottsblue » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:02 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!

Even if there was a hint of that we'd be going from one Super Rich fucker to another. The reality is that we now have a partnership with China, and I mean China as a country, not just a few businessmen trying to make a profit.

Does anybody think the visit by China was just a coincidence, where the reality was that they wanted to go to the Rags instead?

Thought not.

The likes of Saggers can't, in their worse nightmares, comprehend what is happening here. When the reality dawns, it'll be too late.

I think the reality has hit these weasels. Hence trying their age old tactic of it you write it, the masses will believe and it will become true. It's going to be brilliant watching them suffer as time unfolds and we go from strength to strength whilst the rags get left behind. Sweeeeeet
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:03 pm

Slim wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!


TBH I am wondering what the hell this is all about as well.


i wrote what it's about on the last page, spazzy one.

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:10 pm

david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Mase » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:38 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"


I like that. I like that very much.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:50 pm

Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"


I like that. I like that very much.

Me too.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:58 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"


I like that. I like that very much.

Me too.

Cracking bloke who has integrity. Will tell it as it is rather than pamper to the money provided.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:06 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"


I like that. I like that very much.

Me too.

Cracking bloke who has integrity. Will tell it as it is rather than pamper to the money provided.

Surprised Sky ask him on, Beefy.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:16 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"


I like that. I like that very much.

Me too.

Cracking bloke who has integrity. Will tell it as it is rather than pamper to the money provided.

Surprised Sky ask him on, Beefy.

He's one of those blokes who doesn't only talk about what they want. His analysis is excellent and he goes that fast that one second he's talking the Rags (what they want) and the next he's away on another teams views. We are a big fish in the scheme of things so for him, we are the REAL story.

He talks about the Rags and was very generous with the new deals they got, understanding the profits they were likely to make. He's always very generous with us though, which makes me smile.

Talksport presenters have no chance with him, to the point where they no longer ask him to the Fat Fucks show.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:34 am

Funny reading the comments from other fans. First we had an owner who'd get bored. Then FFP would see to us. Then our sponsorships were all Abu Dhabi based and dodgy. Then the academy wouldn't work.

Now it's the $3bn valuation is all the clubs together, so MCFC isn't really worth anything compared to Melbourne and the rags are still worth $50m more. And this is proof that the sheikh is bored.

Wonder what the next excuse will be? We've gone from also rans to top 5 in the world in terms of turnover, an increasing amount of revenue is coming from non Abu Dhabi based businesses, we've got a brand being sold all over the world and we may be in pole position to break both the American and Chinese markets. When the Etihad deal is up, it'll be interesting to see what the market valuation of that renewal is, as I suspect it'll make some other fans weep, especially if it comes from Nissan or Ford or some Chinese company we've never heard of rather than the sheik's 'cousin'. When will other fans wake up and smell the coffee - we've had a long term plan, started by Cooke, which has moved football to a new level that even the likes of Barca, Real and the rags didn't foresee.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Dameerto » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:44 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Slim wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:the start of an adug exit strategy according to that cunt, mark saggers on talkshite... hahahaha!


TBH I am wondering what the hell this is all about as well.

Maybe political?

Probably the only way we could get into China - all the lowbrow agenda monkeys will be desperately trying to spin a negative angle to it without actually having a clue what is going on.
CFG like their local partnerships by the way, this is just an expanded version of what they've done in Melbourne and New York minus owning a club.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby phips » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:43 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Mase wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:david bick (football finance expert) on ssn

"city have blindsided the rest of the football world with, what is one of, the most remarkable deals i've seen in football. this will catapult city to the forefront of the chinese market"

I like that. I like that very much.

Me too.

Cracking bloke who has integrity. Will tell it as it is rather than pamper to the money provided.



The deal, which is subject to regulatory approval in some territories, values the group at almost £2bn ($3bn) in total.

Sheikh Mansour has sold his 13 per cent stake in the club's parent company for £265m, around the same amount he bought the entire club for six years ago, showing the progress the Manchester club have made since 2009.

And Bick did not play down the importance of the deal while speaking to Sky Sports News HQ: "This is heavyweight cash investment from heavyweight investors.

"This I'd say is one of the most remarkable financial deals I have seen in football."

China Media Capital are a state-backed firm investing in culture, technology, media, entertainment and consumer markets, and secured the (£860m) $1.3bn broadcast rights for the Chinese football league last year.

Bick said: "China Media Capital own a number of the major sports rights in China, including the Super League, their national teams and the University league.

"CITIC is a serious investment manager looking after money for major financial institutions in China and elsewhere."

Bick is convinced City have stolen a march on their rivals with this deal, and could go some way to pulling them well away from Chelsea and Arsenal in the Forbes list of most value football clubs.

As of May 2015, Manchester City were ranked the fifth most-valuable club (£905m), behind Real Madrid (£2.13bn), Barcelona (£2.07bn), Manchester United (£2.03bn) and Bayern Munich (£1.54bn).

United are now thought to be only just ahead of City Football Group, who take in NYCFC, Melbourne City and a minority share in Yokohama F Marinos.

Forbes list of most-valuable football clubs (May 2015, before current deal)

Team League Worth
Real Madrid La Liga £2.13bn
Barcelona La Liga £2.07bn
Manchester United Premier League £2.03bn
Bayern Munich Bundesliga £1.54bn
Manchester City Premier League £905m (before deal)
Chelsea Premier League £898m
Arsenal Premier League £859m
Liverpool Premier League £644m
Juventus Serie A £549m
AC Milan Serie A £508m

Bick said: "It is major investment, it catapults the valuation of the whole group, and obviously Manchester City are a big part of that, to an amount that is beginning to run alongside Manchester United.

"Apart from the financial investment, which is geared to direct investment in China, I would think this is going to give Manchester City major exposure in China.

"I think they have blind-sided the other major clubs with this deal."
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby phips » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:45 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means.

you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby john@staustell » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:45 am

Can't help thinking India is next
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:17 am

phips wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means.

you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.

I don't think their's any need for caution, just something new that can be thrown at the Rags.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:18 am

phips wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means.

you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.

Thank you very much for your concern, I almost shoved this down some rag's throat, but got your memo just on time!

Can you please fuck off now?
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby ruralblue » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:48 am

phips wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means.

you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.


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