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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby City64 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:56 am

I Just Blue Myself wrote:
phips wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
phips wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Man United current value on New York Stock Exchange: $3.05 bn
Man City valued following today's investment at $3bn

don't get too carried away.

that's 1 club at 3.05bn vs. 1 club + parts of 3 others at 3bn. not exactly apples to apples.




(i know, i know. im a rag, what can i say)

Interesting that a Blue would try and splice this deal apart to somehow downgrade what this means.

you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.

Thank you very much for your concern, I almost shoved this down some rag's throat, but got your memo just on time!

Can you please fuck off now?

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby City64 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:05 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent.

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby I Just Blue Myself » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:07 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent.

Anfield stinks of piss.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Original Dub » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:26 pm

Listen you deluded scouse cunt.

All your club has left is memories and self pity. Candles and wreathes.
You are now reduced to celebrating like you won a cup final when you beat the club you berate as being "poor" in a single match.

Your captain cried when you won at Anfield. That is so fucking embarrassing, it nearly comes close to when he fell on his arse a couple of weeks later.

Go back to wearing armbands, calling for justice and dreaming of how it used to be.

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:31 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby nottsblue » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:40 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent.

You should do stand up. But the irony is so thick it would choke you.

Quite possibly the most deluded post I have ever read.

There are so many things wrong with your "reasoning" that it's impossible to know where to start. Suffice to say that you beating us the other week was the highlight of your season. You may or may not scrape fourth and get back into the CL, (remind us again of your last foray in that), but we have bigger fish to fry. Much bigger. The loss was an inconvenience on the way to a league title for us.

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby john@staustell » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:44 pm

Wonder if he was one of the fellas that nicked those charity bikes from outside Anfield? Or beat up those Elves the other day?

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby City64 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:07 pm

Fucking right ugly cunt aswell as being thick as shit isn't he ? not a lot going for the sad fucker tbh is there ? Think I will light a candle for the sad fuck .
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Re: the $3 billion club

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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:18 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:20 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent.


Sponsorship revenue? You mean commercial revenue?

The estimates are that about 30% of our commercial revenue comes from the Middle East. Even if you took that away we still have a higher commercial revenue than Liverpool.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:38 pm

City64 wrote:Fucking right ugly cunt aswell as being thick as shit isn't he ? not a lot going for the sad fucker tbh is there ? Think I will light a candle for the sad fuck .


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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby phips » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:58 pm

ruralblue wrote:
phips wrote:you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.

Without any financial input from the Sheik you wouldn't have arrived here would you? Therefore and because of this you do not and cannot comprehend the rivalry. For years we put up with having shit thrown at us for anything and everything (t'is what made stuff like the 5-1 / 3-1 oh so much sweeter). You will not understand that nor will you have felt that in you're heart. So, any shit we can give the rag bastards is going to be milked and given till the fuckers are sick to death of it.

The Sheik had nothing to do with me. but thats neither here nor there. your sense of elitism is commendable though.

go ahead and give the Rags shit about City closing the gap on them, and then when they say they're still ahead you won't have anything to say. thats a pathetic insult: "you were so far ahead before but now we're closing the gap but you're still ahead". wow. i don't know what the response will be.

just trying to help you not make a fool of yourself.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:04 pm

5XWinners wrote:Lol, the delusion in this thread is strong. Not trying to piss on your parade but if you think you are worth anything close to £3 Billion then you need medical attention.

Us, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, West Ham & Villa are all bigger clubs than you. If you were put up for sale tomorrow who would pay £3 let alone £3 Billion. You can only survive if Mansour keps putting his hand in his pocket. As a business you are in no way viable.

The vast majority of your sponsorship revenue comes indirectly from your owner. You don't own your stadium. You don't fill your stadium. You made £11 Million profit last season. This in itself is highly dubious. You have spent over £100 Million in the last transfer window. This will put you back to being a loss making club (which you always were anyway)

You have had over £1 billion pumped in since 2008. On pitch success has been poor, fan base is stagnant. The standard of the PL is poorer than ever yet you are still unable to split from the pack despite all the money spent.



HEY BINDIPPER.......Get your mam to read you this bedtime story.

Manchester City deliver game changer with Chinese investment... super power dreams of its own World Cup so Sheik Mansour gets in early for slice of the action

By MARTIN SAMUEL - SPORT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:15 GMT, 1 December 2015 | UPDATED: 11:12 GMT, 2 December 2015


As those inside the China deal were quick to point out, the latest development at Manchester City is not about buying Lionel Messi or even attracting Pep Guardiola. It is bigger than that. Seriously. Much bigger. This is the game changer.
To relay the simple exclamation of one of the leading figures behind the deal: we’re in. Inside China, inside a new way of doing football business, inside the world’s biggest emerging market, inside and making their rivals nervous.
It was only last September that David Gill, the former chief executive at Manchester United and now a leading figure on football’s world stage, was pontificating with confidence about where the power in the game resided.

Ex-Manchester United chief executive David Gill said last year that City would never be as them big in Asia

‘I’m not being arrogant,’ he said, ‘but Manchester City will never be as big as Manchester United in Asia and certain markets.’
That statement seems very naive this morning. At the precise moment he was speaking, City were already in advanced talks with a government-backed Chinese investment group, China Media Capital Holdings.

The conversations were the culmination of a three-year strategic plan to link with the region. Not in ways that now seem rather ham-fisted and guileless. Not by signing a player from the Japanese league and thinking that was Asia sorted. Not by playing the odd friendly, getting ripped off by agents and promising to return again in two years’ time (because next summer was America’s turn). Not by dipping a toe in the market, opening the odd superstore, or making Wahaha the official soft drink partner for China.
City targeted a substantial, long-term investment and allowed it to play out at government level. It is the only way to do business, real business, in China. They were thinking far bigger than their rivals, and were already putting the pieces in place to strike a unique arrangement.


An Anglo-Arab holding company founded in 2014 which oversees the network of clubs linked to Manchester City as well as dealing with other footballing operations.
Manchester City, New York City, Melbourne City and Japanese side Yokohama F. Marinos all belong to CFG.
CFG runs under parent company the Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG) and recorded a revenue of over £300m last year.
The ADUG was set-up in order to facilitate the purchase of the Premier League club.
City chief executive Ferran Soriano and club chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak oversee the day-to-day running of the CFG.
Under Sheik Mansour's leadership, City have won the FA Cup, Capital One Cup, two Premier League titles and the Community Shield.
CMC have bought 13 per cent of the City Football Group, but that is not the same as buying into Manchester City. The new investors will have a presence on the board of the holding company, but no say in the running of the individual clubs.
Were Guardiola to come to City next summer, he would still be in charge of his football team, in conjunction with his Barcelona allies Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain. CFG comprises a worldwide network of clubs including New York City, Melbourne City and Yokohama Marinos. Through them, China will branch into football, with the ultimate aim of hosting the World Cup.
Further down the line a Chinese arm for CFG is certain to be sought, perhaps in Beijing or Shanghai, or by creating an entirely new team for the Chinese Super League, maybe based in Hong Kong.
A lot of options are being thrown at China’s new partners, including the possibility of starting up in burgeoning holiday-resort cities to the south, such as Sanya. There is much still to be decided.

Yet what was plain as City announced the arrangement on Tuesday morning is that their rivals have been left in the traps. Of course, Manchester United are huge in China and could easily court similar investment. They do not, however, have the structure that would keep the club off-limits.
Manchester United could sell 13 per cent to China tomorrow, but it would give the investors direct involvement in the football. There is no network of clubs, no global arrangement of development and expansion that can be fed straight into China. A new investor at United would be sitting down discussing whether to sell Wayne Rooney, or bid for Cristiano Ronaldo. That is not what China is looking for.
Xi Jinping, China’s president and party to this deal, has unveiled a 50-point plan aimed at making China a ‘soccer powerhouse’. The sport has recently become compulsory in schools, for instance. China recognises football’s influence and prestige, it sees the status of the World Cup, it wants in on it all.
As for City, what is now incontrovertible is that this is not some vanity project, some rich man’s toy. The reason Sheik Mansour is not at every home game ligging with Liam Gallagher is that he is not some dotty playboy, who is bored and fancies a little excitement. He is a serious financial player, and investor, who sits in the rooms where power resides, discussing foreign policy and the economic outlook of the planet. And he intends securing the financial future of his country long after the natural resources have run out.
His rivals have underestimated that. Gill thought Asia was all about league titles. ‘Look at Liverpool,’ he said. ‘The club haven’t won the league for so many years but they are very popular in Asia. The big teams with history and heritage — Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus and Real Madrid — have that.’

Manuel Pellegrini's Manchester City side are currently top of the Premier League table after 14 games
WHO ARE THE INVESTORS?
State-backed China Media Capital was founded by Li Ruigang, an influential Shanghai Communist Party member who has deftly mixed business and politics.
During Xi's state visit to Britain, the Chinese president and the Prince William looked on as Li inked a deal with a British attraction operator to build a new Lego theme park in Shanghai.
Li was present during Xi's visit to the US weeks earlier, when CMC announced a tie-up with Warner Brothers to produce and distribute films.
Aside from his film and entertainment concerns Li splashed $1.3bn last year to win broadcast rights for five years to the Chinese football league, in the latest sign of growing interest in football among China's business elite.
In 2014, Jack Ma, chairman of Internet giant Alibaba, purchased half of Guangzhou Evergrande, the reigning Asian Champions League winners.
And City don’t, was the underlying message. But he ignored what they do have. An owner who talks to Xi, to Cameron, to Obama, who sees legacy projects and geopolitics from a government perspective. Abu Dhabi now moves into China selling its clubs as brands and using its expertise to facilitate the ambitions of the Chinese government.
If this results, long term, in a Chinese World Cup, then City are in at the ground floor as partners. City academies, City infrastructure. It is an echo of what they have done here, but from a more firmly established base. Sheik Mansour took a club that was a punchline and turned it into a force in world football. City barely had a human resources department when he arrived.
Now it is an exemplary business. The academy has been seven years in the making; the City Football Group is three years old. The value of the company was $3billion — and then the Chinese bought in. What might it be in several years’ time, with the rewards of this alliance? So when those inside Abu Dhabi dismiss the idea that this deal is merely a shrewd way of affording Messi’s £400,000 a week, football would do well to listen. They have been thinking far bigger than any imagined all along.
A new stadium in New York is a considerably higher priority than the next marquee signing. Gill, and many others, have underestimated the ambition of this club. It’s still football; but not as we know it. The rest have to think smarter, from here.
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby nottsblue » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:15 pm

Martin Samuels has become my favourite and most respected journalist. Quality article, as has become his norm lately
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Original Dub » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:38 pm

Check mate carl
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby ruralblue » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:17 pm

phips wrote:
ruralblue wrote:
phips wrote:you misunderstand. im not downgrading anything. im cautioning against putting the cart before the horse and rushing to incorrectly boast to United fans about the valuations.

Without any financial input from the Sheik you wouldn't have arrived here would you? Therefore and because of this you do not and cannot comprehend the rivalry. For years we put up with having shit thrown at us for anything and everything (t'is what made stuff like the 5-1 / 3-1 oh so much sweeter). You will not understand that nor will you have felt that in you're heart. So, any shit we can give the rag bastards is going to be milked and given till the fuckers are sick to death of it.

The Sheik had nothing to do with me. but thats neither here nor there. your sense of elitism is commendable though.

go ahead and give the Rags shit about City closing the gap on them, and then when they say they're still ahead you won't have anything to say. thats a pathetic insult: "you were so far ahead before but now we're closing the gap but you're still ahead". wow. i don't know what the response will be.

just trying to help you not make a fool of yourself.


Listen you fucking cock of a man do you think I can not hold my own against a rag and anything they can throw at me. I am not deluded as to what they might have achieved but things have and continueto change for us for the better good and the future.

As for the fool? Read back peoples response to YOU, not just in this thread but in countless others. Then go look in the mirror and see the fool looking back at you. Now I am a peaceful man not a warrior nor a gobshite or a fighter and people on here know that but I could quite easily slap you repeatedly across the head with a spade.

Now fuck off as others have said, sure the Dortmund forums would be happy to accommodate you.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby edge275 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:20 pm

I fucking love Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon.
"Like all bullies, they've just found out that there is a much bigger guy in town, someone who is richer and more powerful than their worst nightmare. And this smiling Arabic assassin is intent on stealing all the treasures they've nicked off everyone else, and pulverising them into commercial and footballing oblivion as he does so."
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:39 pm

The sad thing is, Mr 5X actually believes what he writes. Such a shame that he has dementia so young. Bless him.
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Re: the $3 billion club

Postby nottsblue » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:45 pm

Wonderwall wrote:The sad thing is, Mr 5X actually believes what he writes. Such a shame that he has dementia so young. Bless him.

A lot of dippers have that. Speak about Heysel and you get blank looks. It never happened according to them. 5x is just another mong on a wind up
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