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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby TGR » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:09 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:Had a dream Pellegrini had been sacked, Guardiolla was on his way, just checked the forum, ahhh well :-(

The man is a fraud. His success came off the back of Mancini team, and Mancini signings. The longer he has put his own mark on us, with his own signings, we have got progressively worse under his stewardship. I hear Bony was his signing, and his alone. Hence his refusal to see what we can all clearly see, he is dog shit, and our youngster is a much better prospect.

Last season he blamed FFP. This season it is tiredness, and fatigue. And the old chestnut injuries. Says he has had to pick from just 13 players.(we used 14 players yesterday) maths not his strong point admittedly. We are supposed to be holistic these days. Maybe he should be using some of our academy prospects coming through to share the work load. We sent Denayer out on loan for Demichellis ,i mean seriously wtf was that about anyway ?. we got rid of Jovetic, and Dzeko, for Bony. I have noticed Jovetic has been injury free, and played nearly every game since. Same with Richards at Villa. Soft tissue injuries are destroying us, Our medical team seriously needs looking at.

Pellegrini lovers can hate me all they want. If I thought a top 4 was guaranteed, I would not want change,just for changes sake. Fact is we are averaging just 1.4 points a game since West Ham, you cant deny those appalling statistics, and the trajectory puts us finishing mid-table. Big Clubs don't wait until their season becomes a car crash, if you see the writing on the wall you become pro-active and act. Look at Liverpool under Rogers ,they saw they were going nowhere and fucked him off for Klopp. I wouldn't bet against them finishing above us this season, maybe even mounting a title challenge if we carry on as we are under our Clown of a manager, then our season will be less fruitful than the last.

He had one good season stealing a living off Mancini team. Ironically he is still heavily dependent on all those Mancini signings because his own signings on the whole have been dog shit. Last season it was as clear as day we were in decline under him, only hitting form when there was fuck all to play for. It saved his job. The powers that be figure, no matter how shit he is, even an idiot couldn't fuck us up for a top 4 finish this season whilst we wait for Guardiola (want to bet).Tricky away days coming up at Leicester, and Arsenal, fill me with dread. The worst thing about all our recent defeats. They are not like those of old under Mancini where we batter teams to death and lose 1-0 and are hard done by. We are being fucking pasted !!!,we were pasted at Spurs, Liverpool could have hit us for 6, or 7,coming away from Stoke happy only to lose 2-0 is shocking. Would any of us be really be that surprised, if we don't lose a game by 7,or 8 goals at some point this season ?.I know I wouldn't .We had the best defense for 3 years running under Mancini. MP has fucking destroyed us with his shit dinosaur football.

listening to the whining old bastard on television, setting us up for criticism ,complaining about injuries, tiredness, fatigue. Does he really need reminding how much we spent pre-season on some of those signings. A poor workman always blames his tools. Neil Warnock could do a better job than him.

Rant over.:-)


Bravo sir!
A rant yes. But a rant where every single word you wrote is 100% true.
But still the 'happy clappers' refuse to see or acknowledge the decline since Mr Motivator arrived.
He has lived off the back of Mancini's team for the last 3 years and is still doing so today. However, tactically he simply is not
in the same ball park as Mancini and he never will be. Defensively we have regressed so badly under Mr Motivator is it genuinely scary.
For the good of the club, the team and the fans he has to go and the sooner the better.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Original Dub » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:39 pm

Wow, he's all over the board again.

He's loving this. Fucking troll
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Spurge » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:47 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:Had a dream Pellegrini had been sacked, Guardiolla was on his way, just checked the forum, ahhh well :-(

The man is a fraud. His success came off the back of Mancini team, and Mancini signings. The longer he has put his own mark on us, with his own signings, we have got progressively worse under his stewardship. I hear Bony was his signing, and his alone. Hence his refusal to see what we can all clearly see, he is dog shit, and our youngster is a much better prospect.

Last season he blamed FFP. This season it is tiredness, and fatigue. And the old chestnut injuries. Says he has had to pick from just 13 players.(we used 14 players yesterday) maths not his strong point admittedly. We are supposed to be holistic these days. Maybe he should be using some of our academy prospects coming through to share the work load. We sent Denayer out on loan for Demichellis ,i mean seriously wtf was that about anyway ?. we got rid of Jovetic, and Dzeko, for Bony. I have noticed Jovetic has been injury free, and played nearly every game since. Same with Richards at Villa. Soft tissue injuries are destroying us, Our medical team seriously needs looking at.

Pellegrini lovers can hate me all they want. If I thought a top 4 was guaranteed, I would not want change,just for changes sake. Fact is we are averaging just 1.4 points a game since West Ham, you cant deny those appalling statistics, and the trajectory puts us finishing mid-table. Big Clubs don't wait until their season becomes a car crash, if you see the writing on the wall you become pro-active and act. Look at Liverpool under Rogers ,they saw they were going nowhere and fucked him off for Klopp. I wouldn't bet against them finishing above us this season, maybe even mounting a title challenge if we carry on as we are under our Clown of a manager, then our season will be less fruitful than the last.

He had one good season stealing a living off Mancini team. Ironically he is still heavily dependent on all those Mancini signings because his own signings on the whole have been dog shit. Last season it was as clear as day we were in decline under him, only hitting form when there was fuck all to play for. It saved his job. The powers that be figure, no matter how shit he is, even an idiot couldn't fuck us up for a top 4 finish this season whilst we wait for Guardiola (want to bet).Tricky away days coming up at Leicester, and Arsenal, fill me with dread. The worst thing about all our recent defeats. They are not like those of old under Mancini where we batter teams to death and lose 1-0 and are hard done by. We are being fucking pasted !!!,we were pasted at Spurs, Liverpool could have hit us for 6, or 7,coming away from Stoke happy only to lose 2-0 is shocking. Would any of us be really be that surprised, if we don't lose a game by 7,or 8 goals at some point this season ?.I know I wouldn't .We had the best defense for 3 years running under Mancini. MP has fucking destroyed us with his shit dinosaur football.

listening to the whining old bastard on television, setting us up for criticism ,complaining about injuries, tiredness, fatigue. Does he really need reminding how much we spent pre-season on some of those signings. A poor workman always blames his tools. Neil Warnock could do a better job than him.

Rant over.:-)

Stealing a living off Mancini - I stopped at that point. The team at the end of bobbys reign was divided, his father/son relationship with ballotelli was causing problems internally and publically, his relationship with Tevez also remained difficult. Other players like nasri and edin seemingly had no future. The club made a conscious decision to change the culture of the club, pellegrini fit that requirement (after pep decided to take the soon to become vacant seat at Bayern) .
Pellers not outspoken, not openly controversial but with a good track record from his time in Spain, secured the signings of negredo and navas , put an arm around the likes of edin,nasri, kolarov and Milner and we hit the ground running securing two trophies. Lets be clear pellers impact and contribution along with the cultural change at city won us those trophies that season simple as, its got absolutely nothing to do with stealing anything off Mancini whatsoever.
No idea what you went on to say in your post after that though something tells me I probably didn't miss much.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:14 pm

End of December he will be the best of the best, trust me.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:06 pm

For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby nottsblue » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:06 pm

zuricity wrote:For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.

You raise a good point Zuri. A guy on five goals with twenty odd minutes to go should surely stay on to get six or seven and make a personal statement. Strikers, especially Aguero, live for goals and the more they score the hungrier they become. I get the reasons he was brought off when he was, but if I was in Aguero's shoes, I'd have been pissed off with the manager.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:49 pm

nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.

You raise a good point Zuri. A guy on five goals with twenty odd minutes to go should surely stay on to get six or seven and make a personal statement. Strikers, especially Aguero, live for goals and the more they score the hungrier they become. I get the reasons he was brought off when he was, but if I was in Aguero's shoes, I'd have been pissed off with the manager.


On the other hand, if he'd stayed on, and got injured in a game that was already won, we'd all be saying he should have come off!
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:05 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.

You raise a good point Zuri. A guy on five goals with twenty odd minutes to go should surely stay on to get six or seven and make a personal statement. Strikers, especially Aguero, live for goals and the more they score the hungrier they become. I get the reasons he was brought off when he was, but if I was in Aguero's shoes, I'd have been pissed off with the manager.


On the other hand, if he'd stayed on, and got injured in a game that was already won, we'd all be saying he should have come off!

His next game was with Argentina and he got injured with them.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby zuricity » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:30 am

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.

You raise a good point Zuri. A guy on five goals with twenty odd minutes to go should surely stay on to get six or seven and make a personal statement. Strikers, especially Aguero, live for goals and the more they score the hungrier they become. I get the reasons he was brought off when he was, but if I was in Aguero's shoes, I'd have been pissed off with the manager.


On the other hand, if he'd stayed on, and got injured in a game that was already won, we'd all be saying he should have come off!

His next game was with Argentina and he got injured with them.


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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:43 am

Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby sheblue » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:30 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


He started world war two as well.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:38 am

Aguero, was carrying a knock before the Newcastle game, I blame Sergio, he has his stats, just like Kompany has, the want to play for the Countries which is fair enough, but both should be using the stats our medical team give them, Players and managers know full well the condition of each player, Wenger admitted recently he has known of players entering danger zones on fatigue, which ends up with injuries. Pellers has said it also, so I take back some of my anger towards him. What is unacceptable is the 14 on duty last Saturday were not trying hard enough, De Bruyne has said he is tired..
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby zuricity » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:44 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


Is this a modern 'Broken UK' thing ? Where people completely misinterpret what has been written ?

Where on earth did anyone blame Pellegrini ?

Send three and fourpence....
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:57 am

zuricity wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


Is this a modern 'Broken UK' thing ? Where people completely misinterpret what has been written ?

Where on earth did anyone blame Pellegrini ?

Send three and fourpence....


I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know.

Can you explain what you meant by "exactly" in response to the post about Aguero getting injured on international duty then?
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby s1ty m » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:19 am

zabbadabbado wrote:Had a dream Pellegrini had been sacked, Guardiolla was on his way, just checked the forum, ahhh well :-(

The man is a fraud. His success came off the back of Mancini team, and Mancini signings. The longer he has put his own mark on us, with his own signings, we have got progressively worse under his stewardship. I hear Bony was his signing, and his alone. Hence his refusal to see what we can all clearly see, he is dog shit, and our youngster is a much better prospect.

Last season he blamed FFP. This season it is tiredness, and fatigue. And the old chestnut injuries. Says he has had to pick from just 13 players.(we used 14 players yesterday) maths not his strong point admittedly. We are supposed to be holistic these days. Maybe he should be using some of our academy prospects coming through to share the work load. We sent Denayer out on loan for Demichellis ,i mean seriously wtf was that about anyway ?. we got rid of Jovetic, and Dzeko, for Bony. I have noticed Jovetic has been injury free, and played nearly every game since. Same with Richards at Villa. Soft tissue injuries are destroying us, Our medical team seriously needs looking at.

Pellegrini lovers can hate me all they want. If I thought a top 4 was guaranteed, I would not want change,just for changes sake. Fact is we are averaging just 1.4 points a game since West Ham, you cant deny those appalling statistics, and the trajectory puts us finishing mid-table. Big Clubs don't wait until their season becomes a car crash, if you see the writing on the wall you become pro-active and act. Look at Liverpool under Rogers ,they saw they were going nowhere and fucked him off for Klopp. I wouldn't bet against them finishing above us this season, maybe even mounting a title challenge if we carry on as we are under our Clown of a manager, then our season will be less fruitful than the last.

He had one good season stealing a living off Mancini team. Ironically he is still heavily dependent on all those Mancini signings because his own signings on the whole have been dog shit. Last season it was as clear as day we were in decline under him, only hitting form when there was fuck all to play for. It saved his job. The powers that be figure, no matter how shit he is, even an idiot couldn't fuck us up for a top 4 finish this season whilst we wait for Guardiola (want to bet).Tricky away days coming up at Leicester, and Arsenal, fill me with dread. The worst thing about all our recent defeats. They are not like those of old under Mancini where we batter teams to death and lose 1-0 and are hard done by. We are being fucking pasted !!!,we were pasted at Spurs, Liverpool could have hit us for 6, or 7,coming away from Stoke happy only to lose 2-0 is shocking. Would any of us be really be that surprised, if we don't lose a game by 7,or 8 goals at some point this season ?.I know I wouldn't .We had the best defense for 3 years running under Mancini. MP has fucking destroyed us with his shit dinosaur football.

listening to the whining old bastard on television, setting us up for criticism ,complaining about injuries, tiredness, fatigue. Does he really need reminding how much we spent pre-season on some of those signings. A poor workman always blames his tools. Neil Warnock could do a better job than him.

Rant over.:-)


I agree with a lot of this. And I think it is fair to post opinions if they are reasoned like this.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Dameerto » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:31 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


Is this a modern 'Broken UK' thing ? Where people completely misinterpret what has been written ?

Where on earth did anyone blame Pellegrini ?

Send three and fourpence....


I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know.

Can you explain what you meant by "exactly" in response to the post about Aguero getting injured on international duty then?

He meant it was pointless for Pellegrini to save wear and tear of Kun by taking him off after 60 minutes (and five goals) when his next match was against Argentina. It was doubly pointless because he was injured in that international and we lost him domestically anyway. The second thing is hindsight, the first thing is difficult to explain however you look at it.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:44 am

s1ty m wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:Had a dream Pellegrini had been sacked, Guardiolla was on his way, just checked the forum, ahhh well :-(

The man is a fraud. His success came off the back of Mancini team, and Mancini signings. The longer he has put his own mark on us, with his own signings, we have got progressively worse under his stewardship. I hear Bony was his signing, and his alone. Hence his refusal to see what we can all clearly see, he is dog shit, and our youngster is a much better prospect.

Last season he blamed FFP. This season it is tiredness, and fatigue. And the old chestnut injuries. Says he has had to pick from just 13 players.(we used 14 players yesterday) maths not his strong point admittedly. We are supposed to be holistic these days. Maybe he should be using some of our academy prospects coming through to share the work load. We sent Denayer out on loan for Demichellis ,i mean seriously wtf was that about anyway ?. we got rid of Jovetic, and Dzeko, for Bony. I have noticed Jovetic has been injury free, and played nearly every game since. Same with Richards at Villa. Soft tissue injuries are destroying us, Our medical team seriously needs looking at.

Pellegrini lovers can hate me all they want. If I thought a top 4 was guaranteed, I would not want change,just for changes sake. Fact is we are averaging just 1.4 points a game since West Ham, you cant deny those appalling statistics, and the trajectory puts us finishing mid-table. Big Clubs don't wait until their season becomes a car crash, if you see the writing on the wall you become pro-active and act. Look at Liverpool under Rogers ,they saw they were going nowhere and fucked him off for Klopp. I wouldn't bet against them finishing above us this season, maybe even mounting a title challenge if we carry on as we are under our Clown of a manager, then our season will be less fruitful than the last.

He had one good season stealing a living off Mancini team. Ironically he is still heavily dependent on all those Mancini signings because his own signings on the whole have been dog shit. Last season it was as clear as day we were in decline under him, only hitting form when there was fuck all to play for. It saved his job. The powers that be figure, no matter how shit he is, even an idiot couldn't fuck us up for a top 4 finish this season whilst we wait for Guardiola (want to bet).Tricky away days coming up at Leicester, and Arsenal, fill me with dread. The worst thing about all our recent defeats. They are not like those of old under Mancini where we batter teams to death and lose 1-0 and are hard done by. We are being fucking pasted !!!,we were pasted at Spurs, Liverpool could have hit us for 6, or 7,coming away from Stoke happy only to lose 2-0 is shocking. Would any of us be really be that surprised, if we don't lose a game by 7,or 8 goals at some point this season ?.I know I wouldn't .We had the best defense for 3 years running under Mancini. MP has fucking destroyed us with his shit dinosaur football.

listening to the whining old bastard on television, setting us up for criticism ,complaining about injuries, tiredness, fatigue. Does he really need reminding how much we spent pre-season on some of those signings. A poor workman always blames his tools. Neil Warnock could do a better job than him.

Rant over.:-)


I agree with a lot of this. And I think it is fair to post opinions if they are reasoned like this.


Reasoned? The man who has ( well had a couple of weeks ago anyway ) the highest win percentage in the PL is a fraud? Reasoned? He took a squad that was in turmoil put his own stamp on it which reinvigorated them and saw them win two trophies in his first season in English football breaking scoring records along the way. Reasoned? We have got progressively worse yet we have qualified through the CL group stage in each of his seasons, something the man who he owes his success to couldn't do.

He hears Bony was his signing alone, where'd he hear that? From Marvin Gaye?

FFP did hamper us last season, to suggest otherwise is unreasonable. He sees Jovetic is injury free now? I read a report only a few weeks back where Mancini was complaining about Jovetic's mystery injuries. As for Micah, he was in the main fit in his last season with us but couldn't find the form to oust Zaba when given his chance, despite this the club still offered him a new deal which he refused.

I could go on but I'll leave it there, there is very little reason in what he has wrote, it's mainly just hyperbole
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:21 am

zuricity wrote:
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zuricity wrote:For me , i lost faith, finally in Pellegrini when he needlessly took Kun off , having scored 5 somewhat sublime goals. He should have waited till the 89th minute. Stuff the opposition, it's not about them, he stopped a finely honed machine from working and now it seems it is broken.

If a team wins by 10 goals, these things must happen, that is holistic.

You raise a good point Zuri. A guy on five goals with twenty odd minutes to go should surely stay on to get six or seven and make a personal statement. Strikers, especially Aguero, live for goals and the more they score the hungrier they become. I get the reasons he was brought off when he was, but if I was in Aguero's shoes, I'd have been pissed off with the manager.


On the other hand, if he'd stayed on, and got injured in a game that was already won, we'd all be saying he should have come off!

His next game was with Argentina and he got injured with them.


Exactly !

Sorry mate, I'm arguing the opposite of what you said. There was an argument for taking Kun of earlier, not later, in the Newcastle game. The evidence is that he got injured with Argentina.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:23 am

Dameerto wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


Is this a modern 'Broken UK' thing ? Where people completely misinterpret what has been written ?

Where on earth did anyone blame Pellegrini ?

Send three and fourpence....


I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know.

Can you explain what you meant by "exactly" in response to the post about Aguero getting injured on international duty then?

He meant it was pointless for Pellegrini to save wear and tear of Kun by taking him off after 60 minutes (and five goals) when his next match was against Argentina. It was doubly pointless because he was injured in that international and we lost him domestically anyway. The second thing is hindsight, the first thing is difficult to explain however you look at it.


Right so what we're saying is taking off a player that's struggled with muscle injuries when the game is won is not a sensible decision because there's a possibility he may get injured playing for his country anyway? Makes lots of sense that.
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Re: MP Is Grating Me.

Postby Dameerto » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:30 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Pellegrini's fault that Aguero got injured with Argentina? This is getting silly.


Is this a modern 'Broken UK' thing ? Where people completely misinterpret what has been written ?

Where on earth did anyone blame Pellegrini ?

Send three and fourpence....


I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know.

Can you explain what you meant by "exactly" in response to the post about Aguero getting injured on international duty then?

He meant it was pointless for Pellegrini to save wear and tear of Kun by taking him off after 60 minutes (and five goals) when his next match was against Argentina. It was doubly pointless because he was injured in that international and we lost him domestically anyway. The second thing is hindsight, the first thing is difficult to explain however you look at it.


Right so what we're saying is taking off a player that's struggled with muscle injuries when the game is won is not a sensible decision because there's a possibility he may get injured playing for his country anyway? Makes lots of sense that.

What we're saying is taking a player off who is playing well and not in discomfort is probably being overcautious - and proved to be pointless with hindsight.
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