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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby dazby » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:42 am

And they will make mistakes. Keep it on the field. Put a human face to the error made.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:52 am

Feed The Goat wrote:It's pretty much in place now anyway isn't it? I mean there is a monitor on the sidelines the 4th official can use and the refs and linos are all wearing headsets and can be in contact with the 4th official


Yep, take Madley's decision to award a handball against Dyer yesterday when there is no way he could've seen his hand touching the ball.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby gillie » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:10 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Feed The Goat wrote:It's pretty much in place now anyway isn't it? I mean there is a monitor on the sidelines the 4th official can use and the refs and linos are all wearing headsets and can be in contact with the 4th official


Yep, take Madley's decision to award a handball against Dyer yesterday when there is no way he could've seen his hand touching the ball.

I agree it had to be the 4th official telling Madley that the ball had touched Dyer's hand as unless the cunt has x-ray vision he could'nt have seen it himself.The 4th official is I make my own advantage laws up as I go along Roger East and we have him tomorrow against Everton expect some let's say iffy decisions from him.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby PrezIke » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:54 am

london blue 2 wrote:
Feed The Goat wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:FA Cup: Video assistance for referees backed by football bosses
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35260449



This is a worrying bit. why not replay on the screens in grounds where available

Video decisions would be time limited and, unlike rugby, would not be replayed on big screens inside stadiums.

I doubt they'd show it as the average over aggressive fan would kick off if they see a replay one way and the ref gives it the other.

Most Football fans aren't as accepting as the rugby lot.


In the NFL, NBA and MLB where they use replay, in the stadiums they don't usually show the replays on the screen for I believe this exact reason.

We will find a way to disagree anyway.

On MOTD I've seen Shearer and whoever else he is paired with disagree about penalties or Red vs. Yellow cards, vs. the match commentators.

In the NFL the only way the decision is overturned is that it has to be clearly the opposite, which is what I am guessing will be the case here.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:01 pm

gillie wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Feed The Goat wrote:It's pretty much in place now anyway isn't it? I mean there is a monitor on the sidelines the 4th official can use and the refs and linos are all wearing headsets and can be in contact with the 4th official


Yep, take Madley's decision to award a handball against Dyer yesterday when there is no way he could've seen his hand touching the ball.

I agree it had to be the 4th official telling Madley that the ball had touched Dyer's hand as unless the cunt has x-ray vision he could'nt have seen it himself.The 4th official is I make my own advantage laws up as I go along Roger East and we have him tomorrow against Everton expect some let's say iffy decisions from him.


Madley is the worst and Roger east is the next worst. We had him at home recently, I think it was against Southampton and he was shocking. I though it was Anthony Taylor at first as they look the same from the 3rd tier.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Slim » Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:59 pm

I hope they do it like the Rugby.

Penalty
No Foul
or, and here is where I would like the fuckers to show a pair....DIVE!

Can imagine a big CHEATER sign flashing up on the screen might have some players thinking twice about falling over from a light breeze.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Slim » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:00 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
gillie wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Feed The Goat wrote:It's pretty much in place now anyway isn't it? I mean there is a monitor on the sidelines the 4th official can use and the refs and linos are all wearing headsets and can be in contact with the 4th official


Yep, take Madley's decision to award a handball against Dyer yesterday when there is no way he could've seen his hand touching the ball.

I agree it had to be the 4th official telling Madley that the ball had touched Dyer's hand as unless the cunt has x-ray vision he could'nt have seen it himself.The 4th official is I make my own advantage laws up as I go along Roger East and we have him tomorrow against Everton expect some let's say iffy decisions from him.


Madley is the worst and Roger east is the next worst. We had him at home recently, I think it was against Southampton and he was shocking. I though it was Anthony Taylor at first as they look the same from the 3rd tier.


You know a ref is bad when you realise the other team are getting screwed as well.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby roblues » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:50 pm

roblues wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:How will they do it? If someone goes down in the box, is play stopped and we go to videos? Do we wait until ball goes out of play (if yes what happens if the other team scores from the counterattack?)?

Interesting.

I have huge concerns about the integrity of those involved, however. If Mark Twattenburg was watching a video to see if there has been a handball by Mangala in the box, for example, and happened to see a slight push by Ota on the opposition striker, who is to say he wouldn't award a penalty anyway and say that's what he was looking for?


I know we have two related threads already, but I'm digging up this post from January as I'm curious about what effect video replays would have had on Sunday:

a. Penalty decision overturned without question
b. Penalty decision overturned but with the corrupt twat still trying to justify the decision (assuming refs are wired for sound during the discussion)
c. Penalty not given in the first place for fear of how blatantly it would appear not a penalty

Those who believe in simple incompetence would go with a. Knowing the man based on the last decade would point to b. Corruption leads to c - no gambler takes that big a chance
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Green & Blue » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:50 pm

I hadn't a clue this was happening it's great news, finally a move in the right direction.I would have liked to have seen progress on this a long time ago but better late than never i suppose.

It's going to generate huge interest in the FA cup next season, everyone will be watching. As an added bonus we'll actually get a fair run at the FA cup next season.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Original Dub » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:12 am

I turn on sky/sky sports news every day the footy is on and there is a fuck up almost every time when it comes to decisions.

This creates a constant acceptable grey area.

And it's fucking bullshit.
"It's ok, bullshit decisions happen all the time"

Oh well that must be why I feel hard done by...


FUCK .OFF.

And sort it fucking out.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:36 am

Original Dub wrote:I turn on sky/sky sports news every day the footy is on and there is a fuck up almost every time when it comes to decisions.

This creates a constant acceptable grey area.

And it's fucking bullshit.
"It's ok, bullshit decisions happen all the time"

Oh well that must be why I feel hard done by...


FUCK .OFF.

And sort it fucking out.


There will always be grey areas until rules are changed to make it very clear. The words referees interpretationare in the law book too many times. How are we going to get consistent refereeing decisions when they are allowed to ignore things because the rules say they can.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby sidSmith » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:47 am

One thing is for certain, it'll never be like the rugby or any other sport out there. The twats that run football never want to appear to learn from other sports, and even though they're miles behind on so many things, technology, rolling subs, treating injured players during play, sin bins, etc, they have some bullshit notion that they are leaders or this is the primary sport, so they'll want to pioneer some half arsed way of doing things rather then just implement something that has already been tried and tested in other sports.

I imagine whatever happens they'll leave the final decision with the fucking wanker in the middle, even though he's the fucking problem. Heaven forbid any of those egotistical twats are ever told they got something good wrong, in front of us all, and that I think will be the problem. Twatenburg has an agent remember, ffs. Being shown you've fucked up in front of everyone won't appeal, so I bet they get an input into how anything is implemented.

Refs should be like the stig, each unrecognisable but making calls, responding to advice in their earpiece. We shouldn't know, or care who the ref is like we do now. This is almost the exact opposite to the self serving celebrity hunting obnoxious twats we have now.
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Re: Video Technology in the FA Cup

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:41 am

sidSmith wrote:One thing is for certain, it'll never be like the rugby or any other sport out there. The twats that run football never want to appear to learn from other sports, and even though they're miles behind on so many things, technology, rolling subs, treating injured players during play, sin bins, etc, they have some bullshit notion that they are leaders or this is the primary sport, so they'll want to pioneer some half arsed way of doing things rather then just implement something that has already been tried and tested in other sports.

I imagine whatever happens they'll leave the final decision with the fucking wanker in the middle, even though he's the fucking problem. Heaven forbid any of those egotistical twats are ever told they got something good wrong, in front of us all, and that I think will be the problem. Twatenburg has an agent remember, ffs. Being shown you've fucked up in front of everyone won't appeal, so I bet they get an input into how anything is implemented.

Refs should be like the stig, each unrecognisable but making calls, responding to advice in their earpiece. We shouldn't know, or care who the ref is like we do now. This is almost the exact opposite to the self serving celebrity hunting obnoxious twats we have now.



Good post and I agree.

I can see technology eventually reffing the game. A virtual Referee making a call on the facts and not on a human interpretation of someone who had an argument with his wife last night and she is a fan of the club he is reffing so he decides to piss her off
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