Original Dub wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:Does anyone know a decent stats site where I can find Robbie's games played this season? It'd be interesting to see how many he played before he got injured and how many games/minutes he's played since coming back.
Well mate, while I know stats tell some of the story, they don't tell it all by any means and Rag_Hater is always quick to tell us how Robinho completed 18 passes etc....
The stats that are important for our most expensive attacker is goals, assists and meaningful contribution to attacks.
That and of course SHOWING the people who are watching that you want to do better. That doesn't mean running around like a headless chicken or slide tackling left right and centre. Just to see him drained when he is taken off because he tried to do the things he is good at every time he got the ball would be a fantastic start.
I agree that the media like to get at us anyway they can at the moment, but I don't think they are wrong about him at all.
Its been a long time since he amazed me. He was bought to amaze.
He may have been injured but he has had a hell of a lot more game time than RSC, who gets ridiculed regularly and he's had 3 goals from 3 starts.
Robinho hasn't scored one fucking goal FFS and its mid Jan!!
I think he only scored 3 goals in the whole year of 2009. I could be wrong there, because I don't hunt stat sites down, but it was there or there abouts... RSC has scored the same in 3 or 4 starts.
Put that in
perspective and you can see the major problem we have.
Thanks for your perspective mate but i didn't ask for passes/tackles/blocks etc, what I was after was games played this year (including sub appearance) and goals scored, which I have found here - [urlnp=http://www.soccerbase.com/squad_season.sd?seasonid=139&teamid=1718]
Soccerbase.com[/urlnp] - and somewhat goes to answer my own question (in my head of course).
What I was wondering was how many games Robbie had played compared to Tevez. The reason I ask this is because I seem to remember comments regarding Tevez's involvement in the team some time ago, to the point that (please correct me if I'm wrong) someone actually called him an 'Overpriced Dickov', or words to that effect. Anyway, here's what I got:
All GamesCarlos - 22 starts, 2 sub apps and 15 goals
Robbie - 7 starts, 4 sub apps and 0 goals
Just in case anyone would like to comment on other players, here's a few more stats:
Rocky - 4 starts, 7 sub apps and 3 goals
Bellers - 17 starts, 5 sub apps and 6 goals
Petters - 8 starts, 7 sub apps and 4 goals
And my point you are wondering, well it's this. Carlos has played in 24 games of which he has scored 15 goals, however 11 of them goals have come in his last 10 games, the other 4 came in the Scunthorpe, West Ham x 2 and Palace games. So, he only scored 2 goals in 10 other games yet no-one seems to be berating him, and rightly so.
Robbie has played in 11 games of which he scored the grand total of zero. However, the first 3 of those games were at the start of the season where we won all 3, not conceding a goal. He was then injured and returned for the Hull game where I thought he had a very decent game, and if i remember rightly, he was subbed off the pitch a few minutes before they scored from a dubious penalty. He then goes on to play a full game against Chelsea that we won 2-1, again showing flashes of his old brilliance before coming on as a late sub whilst 3-2 down at Bolton, with 10 men, and go on to get a draw (excellent goal by Carlos by the way).
Moving on from the Spurs game, Robbie has made 4 more appearances, against Stoke where we were leading comfortably before coming off (although I don't think he had a great game), against Wolves as a late sub setting up a goal for Carlos, another sub for the Blackburn game and finally the game against Everton. Hopefully that covers his season so far.
Anyway, here's the point of the whole post. Looking above at Robbies stats for this season, they don't actually look to bad. In fact, they actually show that whilst he was on the pitch the team would only have dropped 6 points in his game time, and those 2 games weren't just bad games for Robbie, but the team as a whole including Carlos and Bellers who have been our main players this season. And considering that Robbie was getting back from injury, whilst having to contend with semi-hostile crowds wondering if they'd drop their/our beloved Bellers, then I don't actually think he has done that bad.
Maybe it's the money thing, maybe it's the expectation that he can be a wizard week-in/week-out, maybe it's because want more, maybe it's the media hype, or maybe it's just because we like to see the never-stop running and hasselling of players by the likes of Carlos and Bellers that we cannot except Robbie for who he is.
I don't know myself, and do question him at times, but one thing is certain, he is a Blue and he plays for Manchester City, and that's all I need to give him 100% support when he next walks out on that pitch. In my opinion, Robbie is just getting back, and if he can produce anything near what he is capable of, he will be back with the likes of Carlos and Bellers which will do me just fine.
Apologies for the longevity of this post, but it was difficult to write with so much info to get across.
PS. Didn't realise that Bellers hadn't scored since Hughes left and now only has 1 in, let's say, a few more games.