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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:06 pm

We should have backed Brian Horton.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:10 am

If that op was stopped about half way through it might have been a good read. Mancini certainly had a good thing going here but he didn't help himself coming off a title trying 3 at the back, which is exactly what got Pep half his abuse this season.

I'm very underwhelmed this season don't get me wrong and I'm also not on board with this whole give him 3 transfer windows crap since we all said prior to him coming that the difference between he and Manuel was he could get the best out of our players and not just buy more players.

That said it's far too early to be calling him a cunt and sacking him. Even though he's under achieved so far, that stats suggest once he cracks it we will be flying for some time.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby typicalcity » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:37 am

Way too early to be saying 'we should of stuck with him or him' 'peps a fraud' and the rest of it. It's been underwhelming and a huge disappointment since September after the Celtic draw and Spurs loss which seemed to halt our progress, after our winning run.

As we did that before, I'm sure we could do it again but Pep needs time.

On the topic at hand, I'm sure we would have to replace half if not the whole squad if we stuck with Roberto being as players like Hart, Kompany were the main catalysts for his departure apparently.

We've got one of the best managers in the world and the players aren't what he wants especially in defence, mainly fullbacks. Pep needs aggressive, fast and young fullbacks who can do the job but sadly Pep has to stick with Kolarov, Clichy, Sagna and Zaba who are all in their 30's and no way near good enough. Next season would be judgment time for me, when Pep has a window to (finally) buy fullbacks and hopefully has players he needs to play the system, he wants to play.. We haven't spent money on a fullback since Maicon FFS! :o
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby sheblue » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:41 am

The problem is we all knew we needed fullbacks last season, but nothing was done about it last summer.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby typicalcity » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:46 am

sheblue wrote:The problem is we all knew we needed fullbacks last season, but nothing was done about it last summer.


Very true, can't argue with that. Never understood how we haven't gone into the market for a fullback for the last 2-3 years? Last one we had was Sagna 14-15 season and that was on a free! Presumably, the board aswell as Pep (not just Txixi) saw CM and wingers more of a priority. I would be absolutely astounded if we didn't buy a new LB and RB in the Summer as I don't think we will do much business this month.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Wooders » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:13 am

the transfer policy is at the root of our problems, we have been shocking since mancini departed - kev brown, fernandiniho and sterling roses amongst many very expensive thornes
we have also kept hold of certain people too long and sold badly - we should all want answers on this
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:19 am

Wooders wrote:the transfer policy is at the root of our problems, we have been shocking since mancini departed - kev brown, fernandiniho and sterling roses amongst many very expensive thornes
we have also kept hold of certain people too long and sold badly - we should all want answers on this


Correct.
Coaching has been reasonable for most parts but transfer dealings have been disaster. I'm actually shocked that shrewd businessmen like Sheik (bless him) tolerate it.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby john@staustell » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:40 am

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:We should have backed Brian Horton.


Thats about it. Mancini played his large part in our history, but his time was clearly over.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby john@staustell » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:49 am

sheblue wrote:The problem is we all knew we needed fullbacks last season, but nothing was done about it last summer.


You're not far off there. Having Jordi Alba on one side and a young Maicon on the other would turn our domination into loads of goals.

Trouble is - are Maffeo and Angelino a better selection than the 4 oldies? No, clearly not as they are off to Girona.

Two big buys needed but they must be good - the Rags have tried and failed with buying full backs about 10 times. It's why Sagna and Clichy ended up here in the first place.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Cocacolajojo » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:33 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:If that op was stopped about half way through it might have been a good read. Mancini certainly had a good thing going here but he didn't help himself coming off a title trying 3 at the back, which is exactly what got Pep half his abuse this season.

I'm very underwhelmed this season don't get me wrong and I'm also not on board with this whole give him 3 transfer windows crap since we all said prior to him coming that the difference between he and Manuel was he could get the best out of our players and not just buy more players.

That said it's far too early to be calling him a cunt and sacking him. Even though he's under achieved so far, that stats suggest once he cracks it we will be flying for some time.


Pretty much what I feel.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:05 am

City64 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Now this guy is back too...

Ffs


Will be some shit flying around tomorrow OD if we don't beat Burnley , this is fucking nothing pal lol :lol:


Take a break 64 you must be exhausted.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby City64 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:34 am

Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Now this guy is back too...

Ffs


Will be some shit flying around tomorrow OD if we don't beat Burnley , this is fucking nothing pal lol :lol:


Take a break 64 you must be exhausted.


Yep its hard work being a city fan and pretending everything is rosy but slip sliding away .
Not really here

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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:35 am

Pep was brought in to win things and it wasn't to win things in 3 windows fuckign time!!!! (true ,the seasons not over but the fucking trajectory does not bode well does it !)

Ill back him as our manager but Ill slag the fuckign cunt off whilst we are lingering in 5TH FUCKING PLACE with a worst fuckign goal difference than 3 of those teams as well as having a comical defense GAME after GAME.

He deserves to be slagged off and unless he makes changes to the playing personnel (I.E GETTING RID OF THAT SERBIAN CUNT) then he can get slagged off some more.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Wooders » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:38 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wooders wrote:the transfer policy is at the root of our problems, we have been shocking since mancini departed - kev brown, fernandiniho and sterling roses amongst many very expensive thornes
we have also kept hold of certain people too long and sold badly - we should all want answers on this


Correct.
Coaching has been reasonable for most parts but transfer dealings have been disaster. I'm actually shocked that shrewd businessmen like Sheik (bless him) tolerate it.


the fact that the only apparent option we had with hart was to loan him out and also subsidise his salary indicates something is fucking rotting in denmark as far as our transfer policy goes
linked with all the right people all summer, kroos, aubenmyeng, alaba, laporte - failed in all of them, with them we'd be up with or above chelsea
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:46 am

Wooders wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wooders wrote:the transfer policy is at the root of our problems, we have been shocking since mancini departed - kev brown, fernandiniho and sterling roses amongst many very expensive thornes
we have also kept hold of certain people too long and sold badly - we should all want answers on this


Correct.
Coaching has been reasonable for most parts but transfer dealings have been disaster. I'm actually shocked that shrewd businessmen like Sheik (bless him) tolerate it.


the fact that the only apparent option we had with hart was to loan him out and also subsidise his salary indicates something is fucking rotting in denmark as far as our transfer policy goes
linked with all the right people all summer, kroos, aubenmyeng, alaba, laporte - failed in all of them, with them we'd be up with or above chelsea


That list kind of hurts both my head and heart. True "number 8 midfielder", top class finisher who actually fits Pep's system, leftback who can cover multitude of positions and can actually defend and first and foremost young supertalented Centerback. All of them, aside from Kroos maybe, are very VERY realistic targets as well.

Now Txiki, check that list and start doing business. We'd be sorted for years again.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:00 pm

City64 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Now this guy is back too...

Ffs


Will be some shit flying around tomorrow OD if we don't beat Burnley , this is fucking nothing pal lol :lol:


Take a break 64 you must be exhausted.


Yep its hard work being a city fan and pretending everything is rosy but slip sliding away .



When you get to ground mate have a good look around and ask yourself is this hard work. Mate it's get a grip time........
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby bigblue » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:35 pm

Seems like Bob is doing pretty well:

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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby getdressedmctavish » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:44 pm

Ha, great pic but worrying that he prefers riding his bike
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby dazby » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:25 am

There's a few whispers that he's been offered the job at Melbourne City after John Vant Schip resigned to be with his dying father.

We would really really love it if that happened.
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Re: We should have backed Mancini.

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:40 am

dazby wrote:There's a few whispers that he's been offered the job at Melbourne City after John Vant Schip resigned to be with his dying father.

We would really really love it if that happened.


Talk about a massive step back mate. Can't see it personally. Stranger things and all that.
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