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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby viking the Odd » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:39 pm

For one minute,forget He's brazilian,forget he cost 32 million, then ask yourself, Does he make the team stronger, does he give his all for the club, could we replace him, would we miss him, then look at the problem that is Robiniho and can you seriously not see any reason why both player and club would like a parting of there ways.
I think if he is to stay,he has to work,and be expected to work, I just don't think that's what he thinks that's all. I would love to have a happy Robbie,playing a pivotal role for us, who is on the team sheet every game without question, but does he ?.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:45 pm

The man himself has quite clearly stated he wants to go back to Brazil, his focus obviously isn't on City.

We can bring him back from the loan next season when he will be full of confidence.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Guy Debord » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:27 pm

From The Guardian:



Robinho, the most expensive player in English football, has confirmed that he wants to leave Manchester City and blamed Roberto Mancini, and formerly Mark Hughes, for making his time in the Premier League so unhappy.

A delegation from Santos, Robinho's former club in Brazil, is due to meet City officials in Manchester this week and several other clubs, led by Benfica, have registered an official interest in the former Real Madrid player.

Robinho's advisers have tried to persuade Barcelona to try to arrange a loan deal but the initial talks have not been followed up and the player has now decided that he wants to return to Brazil to rejoin the club where he began his career.

"The whole board of directors [at City] has decided that the best thing is to loan me out," Robinho said. "It would be extraordinary to come back to Santos. Playing for Santos would help pave my way to the World Cup. It's my home, where I know everyone."

Robinho's desire to leave Manchester was first revealed in the Guardian in November and, despite strong denials from his club at the time, it has now become apparent to the City hierarchy that he has failed to embrace life in England and has begun to feel disillusioned in the extreme.

After a promising start the Brazilian's form has deteriorated sharply, culminating in him losing his place in the team since Mancini took over from Mark Hughes. He was brought on as a substitute during City's recent 2-0 defeat at Everton only to be brought off later in the game because Mancini was so unimpressed.

"The first thing to say is that it is a bad moment I am going through," Robinho told Rádio Bandeirantes in Brazil. "The managers are different here. They decide a system and want you to fit in and it doesn't matter if you're tall or short. The manager was honest with me. He told me I was just going to play every other game. I told him that wouldn't interest me because this is a World Cup year and I need to play."

His impending move will represent a major setback to City given that Robinho's transfer from Madrid on the day the Abu Dhabi United group took control at Eastlands was supposed to signify the club's new ambitions. Instead, he has flickered only sporadically in his 16 months in England and is now so desperate to leave he has even informed City that he will waive part of his £160,000-a-week salary. "The financial situation is important but being happy also counts," he explained.

Santos will still have considerable problems raising the money for the deal to go through but the club intend to offer City the first refusal on their two most exciting young players, Neymar and Paulo Henrique Ganso.

"I don't know if the deal is possible but if there is the slightest of chances to bring him back we will look at every option to do that," the club's president, Luis Alvaro De Oliveira Ribeiro, said. "If Corinthians can find a way to bring back Ronaldo then we can do the same with Robinho."

Robinho's time in England now seems destined to be remembered as a failure and it is a measure of how far his stock has fallen that he was named in the side to face Scunthorpe United at Glanford Park today only because Mancini wanted to rest other players ahead of the second leg of the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester United on Wednesday.

"We hope Santos can persuade Manchester to do a deal," said Evandro Souza, one of the player's advisers. "Myself and Robinho's father are in Manchester to try to arrange the deal and we expect we could be here until the end of the transfer window."

In addition to the interest from Benfica, Robinho revealed he had spoken to his former Santos team-mate Diego, now a Juventus player, about the possibility of a move to the Turin club.

"He invited me to be happy with him at Juventus," Robinho said. "I told him: 'Di, I think it's better for me to go to Peixe [Santos's nickname] and go back to Brazil."
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:32 pm

Guy Debord wrote:From The Guardian:



Robinho, the most expensive player in English football, has confirmed that he wants to leave Manchester City and blamed Roberto Mancini, and formerly Mark Hughes, for making his time in the Premier League so unhappy.

A delegation from Santos, Robinho's former club in Brazil, is due to meet City officials in Manchester this week and several other clubs, led by Benfica, have registered an official interest in the former Real Madrid player.

Robinho's advisers have tried to persuade Barcelona to try to arrange a loan deal but the initial talks have not been followed up and the player has now decided that he wants to return to Brazil to rejoin the club where he began his career.

"The whole board of directors [at City] has decided that the best thing is to loan me out," Robinho said. "It would be extraordinary to come back to Santos. Playing for Santos would help pave my way to the World Cup. It's my home, where I know everyone."

Robinho's desire to leave Manchester was first revealed in the Guardian in November and, despite strong denials from his club at the time, it has now become apparent to the City hierarchy that he has failed to embrace life in England and has begun to feel disillusioned in the extreme.

After a promising start the Brazilian's form has deteriorated sharply, culminating in him losing his place in the team since Mancini took over from Mark Hughes. He was brought on as a substitute during City's recent 2-0 defeat at Everton only to be brought off later in the game because Mancini was so unimpressed.

"The first thing to say is that it is a bad moment I am going through," Robinho told Rádio Bandeirantes in Brazil. "The managers are different here. They decide a system and want you to fit in and it doesn't matter if you're tall or short. The manager was honest with me. He told me I was just going to play every other game. I told him that wouldn't interest me because this is a World Cup year and I need to play."

His impending move will represent a major setback to City given that Robinho's transfer from Madrid on the day the Abu Dhabi U***d group took control at Eastlands was supposed to signify the club's new ambitions. Instead, he has flickered only sporadically in his 16 months in England and is now so desperate to leave he has even informed City that he will waive part of his £160,000-a-week salary. "The financial situation is important but being happy also counts," he explained.

Santos will still have considerable problems raising the money for the deal to go through but the club intend to offer City the first refusal on their two most exciting young players, Neymar and Paulo Henrique Ganso.

"I don't know if the deal is possible but if there is the slightest of chances to bring him back we will look at every option to do that," the club's president, Luis Alvaro De Oliveira Ribeiro, said. "If Corinthians can find a way to bring back Ronaldo then we can do the same with Robinho."

Robinho's time in England now seems destined to be remembered as a failure and it is a measure of how far his stock has fallen that he was named in the side to face Scunthorpe U***d at Glanford Park today only because Mancini wanted to rest other players ahead of the second leg of the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester U***d on Wednesday.

"We hope Santos can persuade Manchester to do a deal," said Evandro Souza, one of the player's advisers. "Myself and Robinho's father are in Manchester to try to arrange the deal and we expect we could be here until the end of the transfer window."

In addition to the interest from Benfica, Robinho revealed he had spoken to his former Santos team-mate Diego, now a Juventus player, about the possibility of a move to the Turin club.

"He invited me to be happy with him at Juventus," Robinho said. "I told him: 'Di, I think it's better for me to go to Peixe [Santos's nickname] and go back to Brazil."

Interesting.

Still it is a sad end to a player that represented a new era for the club.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Grob » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:35 pm

Hmmmm

With the squad in the shape its in we cant afford to lose Robinho and not replace him. As crap as he has been this season, is there anyone out there available that we can snap up to replace him?? I cant think of anyone.

Robinho should be working hard here to win his place back in the team and work to finally come to terms with the demands of the Premiership.

Seems like he's opting out instead which doesnt surprise me.

This is a bad move all round for all parties if it goes through. And if it does go through then the conclusion I will come to is that Robinho is a 1 trick pony and thats all he will ever be with his current attitude.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby zuricity » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:36 pm

I thought Robinho had a better game today than Ireland , who was pretty piss poor to be honest.

Ireland is supposed to be dominating the midfield and he went missing.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Blue Blood » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:39 pm

10.Goater_Legend wrote:
Guy Debord wrote:From The Guardian:



Robinho, the most expensive player in English football, has confirmed that he wants to leave Manchester City and blamed Roberto Mancini, and formerly Mark Hughes, for making his time in the Premier League so unhappy.

A delegation from Santos, Robinho's former club in Brazil, is due to meet City officials in Manchester this week and several other clubs, led by Benfica, have registered an official interest in the former Real Madrid player.

Robinho's advisers have tried to persuade Barcelona to try to arrange a loan deal but the initial talks have not been followed up and the player has now decided that he wants to return to Brazil to rejoin the club where he began his career.

"The whole board of directors [at City] has decided that the best thing is to loan me out," Robinho said. "It would be extraordinary to come back to Santos. Playing for Santos would help pave my way to the World Cup. It's my home, where I know everyone."

Robinho's desire to leave Manchester was first revealed in the Guardian in November and, despite strong denials from his club at the time, it has now become apparent to the City hierarchy that he has failed to embrace life in England and has begun to feel disillusioned in the extreme.

After a promising start the Brazilian's form has deteriorated sharply, culminating in him losing his place in the team since Mancini took over from Mark Hughes. He was brought on as a substitute during City's recent 2-0 defeat at Everton only to be brought off later in the game because Mancini was so unimpressed.

"The first thing to say is that it is a bad moment I am going through," Robinho told Rádio Bandeirantes in Brazil. "The managers are different here. They decide a system and want you to fit in and it doesn't matter if you're tall or short. The manager was honest with me. He told me I was just going to play every other game. I told him that wouldn't interest me because this is a World Cup year and I need to play."

His impending move will represent a major setback to City given that Robinho's transfer from Madrid on the day the Abu Dhabi U***d group took control at Eastlands was supposed to signify the club's new ambitions. Instead, he has flickered only sporadically in his 16 months in England and is now so desperate to leave he has even informed City that he will waive part of his £160,000-a-week salary. "The financial situation is important but being happy also counts," he explained.

Santos will still have considerable problems raising the money for the deal to go through but the club intend to offer City the first refusal on their two most exciting young players, Neymar and Paulo Henrique Ganso.

"I don't know if the deal is possible but if there is the slightest of chances to bring him back we will look at every option to do that," the club's president, Luis Alvaro De Oliveira Ribeiro, said. "If Corinthians can find a way to bring back Ronaldo then we can do the same with Robinho."

Robinho's time in England now seems destined to be remembered as a failure and it is a measure of how far his stock has fallen that he was named in the side to face Scunthorpe U***d at Glanford Park today only because Mancini wanted to rest other players ahead of the second leg of the Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester U***d on Wednesday.

"We hope Santos can persuade Manchester to do a deal," said Evandro Souza, one of the player's advisers. "Myself and Robinho's father are in Manchester to try to arrange the deal and we expect we could be here until the end of the transfer window."

In addition to the interest from Benfica, Robinho revealed he had spoken to his former Santos team-mate Diego, now a Juventus player, about the possibility of a move to the Turin club.

"He invited me to be happy with him at Juventus," Robinho said. "I told him: 'Di, I think it's better for me to go to Peixe [Santos's nickname] and go back to Brazil."

Interesting.

Still it is a sad end to a player that represented a new era for the club.


If we got Neymar as part of this loan i'd certainly be happy.

Neymar will be a great player.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:41 pm

Thought Robbie worked as hard as anyone could expect him to do today & he didn't look like someone who's leaving to me. Mancni clearly didn't undestand the question & said he expected him to stay when it was explained.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Crossie » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:49 pm

Oh great so we ditch one little man boy brazilian ponce and get 2 more younger ones? Havent we learnt?!!?!

Bellers, Robbie, Petrov, all very very simliar players, not really room for them all. Robbie's lack of effort is a total piss take, £160k a WEEK and he cant sort his head out.

Personally I feel gutted inside that he didnt settle with us, but outwardly, if he isnt going to even bother trying, good ridence,

As Grob said, 1 trick poney, he needs much more time on the ball to be able to do what he is good at, and the premier league is not the league for ppl who need time on the ball.

I wish we could recall Bojinov.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby zuricity » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:57 pm

Crossie wrote:Oh great so we ditch one little man boy brazilian ponce and get 2 more younger ones? Havent we learnt?!!?!

Bellers, Robbie, Petrov, all very very simliar players, not really room for them all. Robbie's lack of effort is a total piss take, £160k a WEEK and he cant sort his head out.

Personally I feel gutted inside that he didnt settle with us, but outwardly, if he isnt going to even bother trying, good ridence,

As Grob said, 1 trick poney, he needs much more time on the ball to be able to do what he is good at, and the premier league is not the league for ppl who need time on the ball.

I wish we could recall Bojinov.



Eh ? Bojinov ? How many goals did he score for city ? How many times did he play ? Why aren't you GUTTED about Bojinov ?
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:05 pm

I don't quite get this. It's obviously a recent interview but when did Robbie go back to Brazil? Also, why doesn't Mancio know about this seeing that it is the board who want to loan him out?

Seems a bit fishy to me.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Fidel Castro » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:12 pm

zuricity wrote:I thought Robinho had a better game today than Ireland , who was pretty piss poor to be honest.

Ireland is supposed to be dominating the midfield and he went missing.


Yep Ireland has been just as poor as Robinho this season. Both have suffered from injuries though & I think thye have missed each other on the pitch too. Maybe we should send Robinho to Santos and Ireland to Cobh Ramblers or somewhere like that? They'll come back far better players
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Bluez » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:25 pm

This could be quite a bad move for Robby if it happened. He seems to think he is some kind of world star, yet if teh only club he can find that would have him is Santos then it doesn't really look that good for him.

Personally I hope he stays,I woudl like to see what he looks like after some more time with Manchini
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:30 pm

You don't just loan 32 million pound of talent to another team; do you!?!
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Kladze » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:40 pm

Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:46 pm

Kladze wrote:Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.

I didn't see that today mate. He looked well up for it and the relief on his face when he scored said it all.

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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Kladze » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:48 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Kladze wrote:Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.

I didn't see that today mate. He looked well up for it and the relief on his face when he scored said it all.

PS. I like Cadbury's Flakes!


So do I but they just melt in my mouth without putting up a fight.
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Fidel Castro » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:49 pm

Kladze wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Kladze wrote:Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.

I didn't see that today mate. He looked well up for it and the relief on his face when he scored said it all.

PS. I like Cadbury's Flakes!


So do I but they just melt in my mouth without putting up a fight.


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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Kladze » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:50 pm

Fidel Castro wrote:
Kladze wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Kladze wrote:Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.

I didn't see that today mate. He looked well up for it and the relief on his face when he scored said it all.

PS. I like Cadbury's Flakes!


So do I but they just melt in my mouth without putting up a fight.


For that reason alone Twirls are better


Go on then ... Give us a twirl ;-)
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Re: Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:54 pm

Fidel Castro wrote:
Kladze wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Kladze wrote:Let's assume he doesn't get this move - or any other move.

I can foresee a similar reaction from Robinho as the one Madrid got when he failed to get his move to Chelsea. The man clearly has the mental strength of a Cadbury's flake.

I didn't see that today mate. He looked well up for it and the relief on his face when he scored said it all.

PS. I like Cadbury's Flakes!


So do I but they just melt in my mouth without putting up a fight.


For that reason alone Twirls are better

I don't usually do chocolate, but them two.........................Drift(ers) away
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