What does Gundogan actually do?

[Hazy2]

Gundo scores again v Scousers 1-0

[Nigels Tackle]

Gundo scores again v Scousers 1-0

and meh!rez makes it 2-0
get in!

[patrickblue]

He has a lot of skill, which we see now and again, but he has absolutely no drive whatsoever, you never see him running at the opposition, I’m not keen and he’s had plenty of time, play Foden instead.

To be fair to Gundo, it's not his game to run at the oppo.

I'd love to see a bit more from him, but he's not been our worst player over the last few weeks. Like I said, he's a decent squad player.

Well said Mase.

Fed up with these witch hunts.

I’m not witch hunting, just saying that I’m not impressed despite his obvious skills (praise). Ferna is a defensive midfielder, but drives at the opponent and goes past players, why on Earth is it not Gundo’s job to drive at players, time and time again you see him with the ball at his feet in space and he almost always goes for the easy side pass, I just urge him to have more ambition and we’d see a very different player, I repeat it’s not a witch hunt just an observation !

Wasn't really accusing you particularly, it was just the fact Mase quoted you in his reply. It's just every time something goes wrong (and quite often when it doesn't) there's always a scapegoat. Gundo's been getting loads of shit on here, and I really don't think he deserves it.

[carl_feedthegoat]

He has a lot of skill, which we see now and again, but he has absolutely no drive whatsoever, you never see him running at the opposition, I’m not keen and he’s had plenty of time, play Foden instead.

To be fair to Gundo, it's not his game to run at the oppo.

I'd love to see a bit more from him, but he's not been our worst player over the last few weeks. Like I said, he's a decent squad player.

Well said Mase.

Fed up with these witch hunts.

I’m not witch hunting, just saying that I’m not impressed despite his obvious skills (praise). Ferna is a defensive midfielder, but drives at the opponent and goes past players, why on Earth is it not Gundo’s job to drive at players, time and time again you see him with the ball at his feet in space and he almost always goes for the easy side pass, I just urge him to have more ambition and we’d see a very different player, I repeat it’s not a witch hunt just an observation !

Wasn't really accusing you particularly, it was just the fact Mase quoted you in his reply. It's just every time something goes wrong (and quite often when it doesn't) there's always a scapegoat. Gundo's been getting loads of shit on here, and I really don't think he deserves it.

Well Walker and PeP are on my shit list right now.

[patrickblue]

To be fair to Gundo, it's not his game to run at the oppo.

I'd love to see a bit more from him, but he's not been our worst player over the last few weeks. Like I said, he's a decent squad player.

Well said Mase.

Fed up with these witch hunts.

I’m not witch hunting, just saying that I’m not impressed despite his obvious skills (praise). Ferna is a defensive midfielder, but drives at the opponent and goes past players, why on Earth is it not Gundo’s job to drive at players, time and time again you see him with the ball at his feet in space and he almost always goes for the easy side pass, I just urge him to have more ambition and we’d see a very different player, I repeat it’s not a witch hunt just an observation !

Wasn't really accusing you particularly, it was just the fact Mase quoted you in his reply. It's just every time something goes wrong (and quite often when it doesn't) there's always a scapegoat. Gundo's been getting loads of shit on here, and I really don't think he deserves it.

Well Walker and PeP are on my shit list right now.

Me too, but being on the shit list because they fucked up isn't the same as the constant slagging.
Every time we have a shit game, win lose or draw, there's always a few singling out Gundo.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I think "bang average" is a very fair description. We are always poorer for having him in the side is the honest truth.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Not just average then?

[Hazy2]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

[Nigels Tackle]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

[mr_nool]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

We were pretty consistent last season.

[Nigels Tackle]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

We were pretty consistent last season.

collectively yes, individually no. all the players had a wobble at some point(s) last season. all the slumps this year seem to have coincided with each other.

[mr_nool]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

We were pretty consistent last season.

collectively yes, individually no. all the players had a wobble at some point(s) last season. all the slumps this year seem to have coincided with each other.

Are there any constantly good players? All players suffers dips in form, injuries, dryspells etc.

[Nigels Tackle]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

We were pretty consistent last season.

collectively yes, individually no. all the players had a wobble at some point(s) last season. all the slumps this year seem to have coincided with each other.

Are there any constantly good players? All players suffers dips in form, injuries, dryspells etc.

of course not. point i am making is that all of our dips in form, injuries and dry spells have all arrived at the same time this season.

[mr_nool]

That I agree with. Whether it's down to bad luck or poor man management is anyone's guess. I'm sure we can all find ways to blame Txiki for it, though.

[Hazy2]

And Delph is going under the radar, he is a liability with one foot which is average at best.

and sane and sterling are pretty inconsistent, both have a run of 5-10 good games followed by a similar number of shit games.

do we actually have any consistently good players??!?

Match winners mate. Delph is a passenger with one foot. Like Darren RAG Fletcher surrounded by class his abilities are masked as OK.

[Sparklehorse]

He has a lot of skill, which we see now and again, but he has absolutely no drive whatsoever, you never see him running at the opposition, I’m not keen and he’s had plenty of time, play Foden instead.

To be fair to Gundo, it's not his game to run at the oppo.

I'd love to see a bit more from him, but he's not been our worst player over the last few weeks. Like I said, he's a decent squad player.

Well said Mase.

Fed up with these witch hunts.

I’m not witch hunting, just saying that I’m not impressed despite his obvious skills (praise). Ferna is a defensive midfielder, but drives at the opponent and goes past players, why on Earth is it not Gundo’s job to drive at players, time and time again you see him with the ball at his feet in space and he almost always goes for the easy side pass, I just urge him to have more ambition and we’d see a very different player, I repeat it’s not a witch hunt just an observation !

Wasn't really accusing you particularly, it was just the fact Mase quoted you in his reply. It's just every time something goes wrong (and quite often when it doesn't) there's always a scapegoat. Gundo's been getting loads of shit on here, and I really don't think he deserves it.

[Spurge]

Apparently didnt get on the plane for southampton. Neither did KDB who has a "knock"

[nottsblue]

Apparently didnt get on the plane for southampton. Neither did KDB who has a "knock"

Fuck.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Apparently didnt get on the plane for southampton. Neither did KDB who has a "knock"

Ffs! Was DeBruyne brought back too soon?

[zuricity]

Apparently didnt get on the plane for southampton. Neither did KDB who has a "knock"

Ffs! Was DeBruyne brought back too soon?

Stop, he's on the ferry tomorrow morning from 'The Continent' , no need to worry.