Vieira

[Beefymcfc]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

It is strange how people see different things mate. Another good analysis in my opinion. Just watching it from the TV view (1-0 after 63 mins) and still not changed my opinion. Even the commentators are wondering why he is still on (Andy Gray saying 'Tend to think, he maybe not' when asked if Vieira would get another 2 mins)

[zuricity]

CLASS PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS CAPABLE OF THE SUBLIME ..AS WAS EVIDENT WITH VIERAS (BETTER THAN IRELANDS) PASS TO ADE.

BUT IM SORRY - THE GUY IS TOO SLOW FOR THE PREM AND IS A LIABILITY IMO.
BAD SIGNING FOR OUR TEAM BASED ON TONIGHTS PERFORMANCE.

CARL ? CARL ??? CARL ?????

Are you Pissed or what ?

Best defender tonight. Easy ....

[john68]

I am happy that we got the 3pts tonight and got through what could have been a banana skin without too much trouble.
It is far too early to pass judgement on Vieira after only 1 game and we will only know when he has had time to acclimatise to city and the higher pace of the Prem.
Tonight, I thought he was well of the pace and like Doug has already postes...he was at times, a liability. He was often far too slow to the ball and was caught in possession too often. He still has class but only time will tell if he can get up to pace.

[Beefymcfc]

Great cross......

[Nick]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

Exactly what I thought mate. Its funny, I was discussing something during the game probably standing up or lack of atmosphere and I said that people that tend to disagree with me about things I bet would say Veira was amazing.

In contrast, I thought de jong especially and barry had good games, despite several threads slagging the pair off in away games Ive not managed to see.

[zuricity]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

It is strange how people see different things mate. Another good analysis in my opinion. Just watching it from the TV view (1-0 after 63 mins) and still not changed my opinion. Even the commentators are wondering why he is still on (Andy Gray saying 'Tend to think, he maybe not' when asked if Vieira would get another 2 mins)

Beefy. what the F*ck does Andy Gray know ? We've already discussed the tosser (AG) many times on this board and you quote the
dipstick ?.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

It is strange how people see different things mate. Another good analysis in my opinion. Just watching it from the TV view (1-0 after 63 mins) and still not changed my opinion. Even the commentators are wondering why he is still on (Andy Gray saying 'Tend to think, he maybe not' when asked if Vieira would get another 2 mins)

Beefy. what the F*ck does Andy Gray know ? We've already discussed the tosser (AG) many times on this board and you quote the
dipstick ?.

AG is a tosser maybe and a little biased maybe but a lot of the time he gets it right. Keeping Vieira on was all about getting him matchtime and nothing to do with his performance.

[zuricity]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

It is strange how people see different things mate. Another good analysis in my opinion. Just watching it from the TV view (1-0 after 63 mins) and still not changed my opinion. Even the commentators are wondering why he is still on (Andy Gray saying 'Tend to think, he maybe not' when asked if Vieira would get another 2 mins)

Beefy. what the F*ck does Andy Gray know ? We've already discussed the tosser (AG) many times on this board and you quote the
dipstick ?.

Sorry doug , you are wrong.

He was in there defending tonight , when defenders forgot what their job was. ( = Toure ).

[Sheikhermaker]

I'm with Grob on this one, I was pretty dismayed by the midfield formation tonight, its far too negative for at home. At times I saw the trio of Vieira, De Jong and Barry playing in a line about the width of the centre circle. It was proper headless chicken stuff at times and as said, when Vieira was up the pitch he had to look of a rabbit in the headlights, conceded possession quite a lot. I think game time will sort him out though.

Its clear Gareth Barry needs a rest, he's not played very well for a while now, and we need to take advantage of playing Patrick instead of him while he's fit. The only thing he is offering at the moment is versatility to drop back to left back to allow a tactical substitution.

I didn't think De Jong had his greatest game for us tonight but was pretty effective in closing down as usual. Overall, I think De Jong and Vieira would have sufficed. Would've been good to see two wingers on from the start tonight.

[Beefymcfc]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

It is strange how people see different things mate. Another good analysis in my opinion. Just watching it from the TV view (1-0 after 63 mins) and still not changed my opinion. Even the commentators are wondering why he is still on (Andy Gray saying 'Tend to think, he maybe not' when asked if Vieira would get another 2 mins)

Beefy. what the F*ck does Andy Gray know ? We've already discussed the tosser (AG) many times on this board and you quote the
dipstick ?.

Sorry doug , you are wrong.

He was in there defending tonight , when defenders forgot what their job was. ( = Toure ).

I don't think so mate, I think he is right. I don't agree with AG on individual decisions usually, but he is not daft enough to slate/big-up a player over 80-90 mins.It's enough to be a foll for 30 secs, but to be a fool over 90 is just, well, foolish!

[zuricity]

Well I disagree with Andy Gray. period.....

[carl_feedthegoat]

CLASS PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS CAPABLE OF THE SUBLIME ..AS WAS EVIDENT WITH VIERAS (BETTER THAN IRELANDS) PASS TO ADE.

BUT IM SORRY - THE GUY IS TOO SLOW FOR THE PREM AND IS A LIABILITY IMO.
BAD SIGNING FOR OUR TEAM BASED ON TONIGHTS PERFORMANCE.

CARL ? CARL ??? CARL ?????

Are you Pissed or what ?

Best defender tonight. Easy ....

I WAS PISSED OFF MOST OF THE TIME MATE......Vieira LOST THE BALL MANY TIMES TONIGHT,RIDICULOUS AT TIMES AND THE ARSENALS ET AL WILL RELSH HIM PLAYING FOR US IN MIDFIELD AS THEY WILL EAT HIM ALIVE.

I HAVE SAID HE HAD A SUBLIME MOMENT WITH HIS PASS TO ADE AJD HE HAD SOME GOOD MOMENTS IN DEFENCE...HATS OFF TO HIM BUT IM TELLING YOU MATE THE GUY IS NOT Vieira FROM YESTERYEAR...TOO SLOW AND YOU GET PUNISHED IN THE PREM FOR BEING TOO SLOW IN MIDFIELD.

[Ted Hughes]

CLASS PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS CAPABLE OF THE SUBLIME ..AS WAS EVIDENT WITH VIERAS (BETTER THAN IRELANDS) PASS TO ADE.

BUT IM SORRY - THE GUY IS TOO SLOW FOR THE PREM AND IS A LIABILITY IMO.
BAD SIGNING FOR OUR TEAM BASED ON TONIGHTS PERFORMANCE.

CARL ? CARL ??? CARL ?????

Are you Pissed or what ?

Best defender tonight. Easy ....

I WAS PISSED OFF MOST OF THE TIME MATE......Vieira LOST THE BALL MANY TIMES TONIGHT,RIDICULOUS AT TIMES AND THE ARSENALS ET AL WILL RELSH HIM PLAYING FOR US IN MIDFIELD AS THEY WILL EAT HIM ALIVE.

I HAVE SAID HE HAD A SUBLIME MOMENT WITH HIS PASS TO ADE AJD HE HAD SOME GOOD MOMENTS IN DEFENCE...HATS OFF TO HIM BUT IM TELLING YOU MATE THE GUY IS NOT Vieira FROM YESTERYEAR...TOO SLOW AND YOU GET PUNISHED IN THE PREM FOR BEING TOO SLOW IN MIDFIELD.

He can do a good job if he has protection around him like tonight but without it he'll get humiliated. So long as we don't put him up against a quality midfield as part of a midfield 2 he should be ok. We beat the rags with Didi in the side & Vieira's still marginally quicker than him. As soon as he gets past the halfway line he's stranded though, no chance of getting back without cover.

[Wooders]

Looked rusty to me, which is exactly what he is, matchtime will sort that, I saw enough in his performance to give me confidence he can do a job for us
I also agree that 3 defensive midfielders is a step to far - I have a feeling Mancini doesn't rate Ireland though

[Dubaimancityfan]

Some nice simple touches which moved the ball on quite well I thought.

Reminded me a lot of Didi Hammann in the Sven season. He brought stability to the midfield and added a new dimension by playing the ball forward for a change. Allowed Barry to go forward on many ocassions which we have not see lately. Barry can still score the odd goal and with Paddy behind him, he will be more comfortable.
Not sure that we need 3 DM's especially at home. 2 can do that job. Question is which 2.
For me, it will be VP and Barry home and VP and NDJ away.

[Wooders]

PV you mean? Confused me for a bit there

[Blue2]

Actually thought he had a good game all things considered, will be better for the game as well.

[Bingo Lewis]

I'm holding no judgements on him as it was his debut.
Thought he lost the ball too much through trying silly turns etc, but Vieira is a true pro and will adjust just like Hamann did and just spray the ball about instead of thinking he's still a 21 year old athlete. He had moments which made me think, "yeah, good shit", but he wasn't as dominent in the air as I thought he would be. 6/10

[Alex Sapphire]

could I be forgiven for thinking that his main contributions were some lovely (and some not so) "long balls"?

[john@staustell]

Have to give Vieira the benefit of the doubt after tonight as it looks like he is going to be in the team if fit and it is good that he got 90 minutes. I thought he looked a liability and did anything but boss the game imo. Of course his positioning was going to be reasonably good as he has a zillion years experience.And yes he made the odd pass ( one special one of course) but he was caught on the ball at times and generally so slow he makes Barry look like a sprinter.

Amazing how some have seen it so different. As with the team though if we/he plays like that all the time he/we will get found out easily by good teams.

Exactly what I thought mate. Its funny, I was discussing something during the game probably standing up or lack of atmosphere and I said that people that tend to disagree with me about things I bet would say Veira was amazing.

In contrast, I thought de jong especially and barry had good games, despite several threads slagging the pair off in away games Ive not managed to see.

I agree mate, they did. But because they're defensive players they get the abuse.

Vieira was excellent for a man who wasn't fit yet. He was clearly given 'game time' when he should've been pulled off as knackered! That will benefit us in the near future.

Anyone else notice his height changed the whole team profile, both in open and set play? We look more dominating.