***toffees v Man City official match thread***

[sheblue]

Cant buy into all this Laporte throw away hate. Had a long injury, lay off and has played very few games.

Has everyone forgotten that he is proven quality.

[london blue 2]

Very positive coverage. No agenda or pandering. Just saying it as it is.

[london blue 2]

Cant buy into all this Laporte throw away hate. Had a long injury, lay off and has played very few games.

Has everyone forgotten that he is proven quality.

Laporte is fine. It’s a match thread, just ignore.

[Beefymcfc]

Cant buy into all this Laporte throw away hate. Had a long injury, lay off and has played very few games.

Has everyone forgotten that he is proven quality.

Didn’t see anything regarding Laporte and rightly so. Not sure why anybody would have a go even though he did misplace a couple of passes.

Played well for the majority and winning the last 3 out of 3 that he has played in can’t be too bad, especially as we have to rotate and he is getting back to his best. This stuff shouldn’t just be respected now, this bodes well for not only this season, but for further seasons to come.

[johnny crossan]

Dixon doesn't think Pep could have done it at Stockport County - well there's a surprise

To be fair, that was the only downside from that production, overall it was an absolute breath of fresh air the way they had no real bias towards either of the clubs and just said how they’d seen the game. The amount of praise for each was what I’d have expected and the pundits thoughts afterwards were spot on, not just for City.

What that did say, as they all pundit for different broadcasters, is that certain outlets set a directive on what should or shouldn’t be said.

If I had to give a friend a recommendation of the Prime viewing experience from a City POV then I’d be giving them a ‘Very Strong’ whereas Sky or BT it would be ‘Unsatisfactory, Not Recommended’.

Agree Beefy, far better - still it's fun to watch Owen & Dixon trying to change course with so much hate in their bilges

[Nigels Tackle]

lovely goal from mehrez
bloody jesus couldn’t finish his dinner

[aaron bond]

Cant buy into all this Laporte throw away hate. Had a long injury, lay off and has played very few games.

Has everyone forgotten that he is proven quality.

Prior to his injury he'd been poor for a long time.

For ages I believed he was our Van Dijk equivalent but over time it's increasingly appeared he's not as good as we thought he was.

I hope he can raise his game now with the increased competition. Dias has made a great start with us and Stones has raised his level. It's up to Laporte and Ake to prove they're good enough to compete for a starting spot.

[aaron bond]

10 points clear. 17 games won consecutively. Shame about no clean sheet. But fuck it! Always like beating a scouse twat whether it’s red or blue.

Yep

And the GD is worth an extra point as well. Mind the gap

We're on a phenomenal run and the players seem to be more confident as each game goes by.

On to Arsenal next!

[john@staustell]

lovely goal from mehrez
bloody jesus couldn’t finish his dinner

BLASPHEMER! Stone him

[s1ty m]

Dixon doesn't think Pep could have done it at Stockport County - well there's a surprise

To be fair, that was the only downside from that production, overall it was an absolute breath of fresh air the way they had no real bias towards either of the clubs and just said how they’d seen the game. The amount of praise for each was what I’d have expected and the pundits thoughts afterwards were spot on, not just for City.

What that did say, as they all pundit for different broadcasters, is that certain outlets set a directive on what should or shouldn’t be said.

If I had to give a friend a recommendation of the Prime viewing experience from a City POV then I’d be giving them a ‘Very Strong’ whereas Sky or BT it would be ‘Unsatisfactory, Not Recommended’.

Agreed.

[salford city]

Cant buy into all this Laporte throw away hate. Had a long injury, lay off and has played very few games.

Has everyone forgotten that he is proven quality.

Prior to his injury he'd been poor for a long time.

For ages I believed he was our Van Dijk equivalent but over time it's increasingly appeared he's not as good as we thought he was.

I hope he can raise his game now with the increased competition. Dias has made a great start with us and Stones has raised his level. It's up to Laporte and Ake to prove they're good enough to compete for a starting spot.

My thoughts entirely on Laporte. In his defence, I would say that this was compounded by having Fern in at CB whilst also trying to give Rodri game time and more often than not, an ever changing pair of full backs. Will see what he is made of now, if he fancies the battle to up his game to stay in the team

[PeterParker]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

[Mase]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

Good post. Also the fact his most serious injury was purely down to him being stupid and going for a tackle he couldn’t make.

[stupot]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

The last 3 exits from the Champs League he made mistakes that cost us but if Serg scores the pen against Spurs we're through, if Raz scores the open goal against Lyon, if Eddie doesn't throw one in against Lyon. There's plenty of mistakes that cost us.
And if a player shouldn't start in key moments based on past fuckups Stones would never play again.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

About sums it up.

When a player is as average as he is now, some fans , in their desperate attempt to defend him, harp on about that one season he was really good as if that justifies his inclusion in the team instead of Stones or Dias.

His brain farts have cost us and we have lost games because of him....fact.
IMO he has done fuckall to convince me that we can rely on him when either Stones or Dias is out...yesterday he was shit at passing and bang average at defending.

[PeterParker]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

The last 3 exits from the Champs League he made mistakes that cost us but if Serg scores the pen against Spurs we're through, if Raz scores the open goal against Lyon, if Eddie doesn't throw one in against Lyon. There's plenty of mistakes that cost us.
And if a player shouldn't start in key moments based on past fuckups Stones would never play again.

Agree.
But can't remember a moment when a brain fart from Stones cost us in a key moment. I remember a title saving moment from him and a fantastic 2017 first half of the season. Then his personal life took over.
With those mentioned are examples, unfortunate examples, with him (Aymeric), sadly, it looks like a pattern.

I really can't remember a really critical moment when he was motm. Not for the sake of the argument, it just doesn't come to mind a moment except Brighton away.

[Mase]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

The last 3 exits from the Champs League he made mistakes that cost us but if Serg scores the pen against Spurs we're through, if Raz scores the open goal against Lyon, if Eddie doesn't throw one in against Lyon. There's plenty of mistakes that cost us.
And if a player shouldn't start in key moments based on past fuckups Stones would never play again.

Stones clearing the ball off the ball by mm to help us beat Liverpool to the title in 18/19. Stones has had some very key moments for us.

EDIT: Brighton away getting the goal to make it 2-1 and imo take the wind out of Brighton was great from Laporte also.

[stupot]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

The last 3 exits from the Champs League he made mistakes that cost us but if Serg scores the pen against Spurs we're through, if Raz scores the open goal against Lyon, if Eddie doesn't throw one in against Lyon. There's plenty of mistakes that cost us.
And if a player shouldn't start in key moments based on past fuckups Stones would never play again.

Agree.
But can't remember a moment when a brain fart from Stones cost us in a key moment. I remember a title saving moment from him and a fantastic 2017 first half of the season. Then his personal life took over.
With those mentioned are examples, unfortunate examples, with him (Aymeric), sadly, it looks like a pattern.

I really can't remember a really critical moment when he was motm. Not for the sake of the argument, it just doesn't come to mind a moment except Brighton away.

Brighton away was pretty critical.
A Stones brain fart cost us a goal in the Caraboa Cup Final last season but my point is Stones is playing at a top level which is great for us. Dias is the glue that holds us together and Laporte is also playing really well again. It's a squad, Pep is managing them really well and making sure they're all getting game time. Some people on here would like the same 11 every week.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Stones got it in the neck, now he's reliable.

Laporte was reliable, now he's getting it in the neck.

When is Dias turn?

[PeterParker]

Ok, the Laporter ”hate”.

Is not actually hate, but starting to understand he is not as good as we think he is, was. Excellent squad player to have, but a world beater? Come on, he couldn't get in his national team and let's forget a bit his so called problem with Deschamps.

There can be a lot of arguments & examples, but the fact is in our last three exists out of the UCL are on his back: Scouse, Spurs, Lyon (but also bent decisions).
The injuries play a part, no doubt, but he has a lot of brainfarts for this level in key moments.
No one is saying fuck off Laport, let's sell him.
Just that he should never start in key moments based on his past fuckups.

Last night he was poor, small things that could cost us.

The last 3 exits from the Champs League he made mistakes that cost us but if Serg scores the pen against Spurs we're through, if Raz scores the open goal against Lyon, if Eddie doesn't throw one in against Lyon. There's plenty of mistakes that cost us.
And if a player shouldn't start in key moments based on past fuckups Stones would never play again.

Agree.
But can't remember a moment when a brain fart from Stones cost us in a key moment. I remember a title saving moment from him and a fantastic 2017 first half of the season. Then his personal life took over.
With those mentioned are examples, unfortunate examples, with him (Aymeric), sadly, it looks like a pattern.

I really can't remember a really critical moment when he was motm. Not for the sake of the argument, it just doesn't come to mind a moment except Brighton away.

Brighton away was pretty critical.
A Stones brain fart cost us a goal in the Caraboa Cup Final last season but my point is Stones is playing at a top level which is great for us. Dias is the glue that holds us together and Laporte is also playing really well again. It's a squad, Pep is managing them really well and making sure they're all getting game time. Some people on here would like the same 11 every week.

Yeah, but in my book Laport should never start Everton or Arsenal away, but easier games.
Going back to Stones, I think when he is fit mentally, he is really fantastic. His composure, the way he shoves his opponents off the ball. Look how he marked Mane, the diving cunt didn't touch the ball.

For me a world class defender is one that strikes fear into an opponent. I think other players are more concerned when "Ah, fuck, I am playing again Stones/Dias" vs when they play Laporte.

I understand Pep, he has to play him to keep him happy. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.