Over 200 million spent.

[Original Dub]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Fuck sake mate, why do you still get so baffled by the comparrisons made between this manager and the last???

Its the way to measure progress, and if I recall correctly, you were more than willing to compare the last two managers to each other. Yet we're not allowed mention hughes' name without being accused of being obsessed with the man? Its fucking silly mate. Its only converstaion and comparrison and its very very valid.

Also, when I was over at the first home game, Gillie was telling me he didn't think hughes was the man, so making out that his opinion on Mancini is based on his love for hughes is way wide of the truth. If anything, I'll bet Gillie would say he didn't like the last fella, but he prefers him to what Mancini has shown so far. MAybe he goes to matches to be entertained, who knows?

People will talk about hughes until Mancini has gone and then it will become less and less... just like with Sven. That's life, you shouldn't get upset when his name is mentioned.

And as for all this "but he had no other attacking options on the bench" shite talk. Well, I suppose he should have thought of that going into the transfer market for that whole month it was open, but instead our three main targets were three defensive midfielders and a young guy (cup tied) whom I presume Mancini knew little or nothing about.

You reap what you sow. He had a few weeks to look at what he needed and HE decided we didn't need an attacking midfielder. And you know what? Its probably because he wants us to play negative, cagey, defensive football.

It makes sense to me.

[Ted Hughes]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Some of us were enjoying the football & happy that we were progressing nicely when he was sacked & now aren't enjoying the football & don't see any major improvement in progression to make it worthwhile. How are we expected NOT to compare it? It wasn't a dark time for us like it was some of you, it was fun & we were full of optimism. We're hoping to get back to having fun again but obviously are comparing the two & also the reactions of the people who we're so used to reading slagging off the manager suddenly pleading for patience, which incidentally most of us have got.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Fuck sake mate, why do you still get so baffled by the comparrisons made between this manager and the last???

Its the way to measure progress, and if I recall correctly, you were more than willing to compare the last two managers to each other. Yet we're not allowed mention hughes' name without being accused of being obsessed with the man? Its fucking silly mate. Its only converstaion and comparrison and its very very valid.

Also, when I was over at the first home game, Gillie was telling me he didn't think hughes was the man, so making out that his opinion on Mancini is based on his love for hughes is way wide of the truth. If anything, I'll bet Gillie would say he didn't like the last fella, but he prefers him to what Mancini has shown so far. MAybe he goes to matches to be entertained, who knows?

People will talk about hughes until Mancini has gone and then it will become less and less... just like with Sven. That's life, you shouldn't get upset when his name is mentioned.

And as for all this "but he had no other attacking options on the bench" shite talk. Well, I suppose he should have thought of that going into the transfer market for that whole month it was open, but instead our three main targets were three defensive midfielders and a young guy (cup tied) whom I presume Mancini knew little or nothing about.

You reap what you sow. He had a few weeks to look at what he needed and HE decided we didn't need an attacking midfielder. And you know what? Its probably because he wants us to play negative, cagey, defensive football.

It makes sense to me.

People weren't talking about Sven much at all until Hughes left.

And it's perfectly fine to make some comparisons but to bring him up in every given chance. There are people here still harping on like he'd come back one day.

And what part of "I didn't direct it at Gillie" didn't you understand?

Regarding not bringing in attacking midfielder, Jinky looks pretty damn attacking to me. And good signing as well. Maybe you didn't know this but he was cup tied against Stoke. Having played against US earlier in the competition.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Some of us were enjoying the football & happy that we were progressing nicely when he was sacked & now aren't enjoying the football & don't see any major improvement in progression to make it worthwhile. How are we expected NOT to compare it? It wasn't a dark time for us like it was some of you, it was fun & we were full of optimism. We're hoping to get back to having fun again but obviously are comparing the two & also the reactions of the people who we're so used to reading slagging off the manager suddenly pleading for patience, which incidentally most of us have got.

I haven't been "pleading for patience" have I? I understnad there are people who simply don't think Mancini is the right man and that's that. I'm sure these people just say what they feel is best for the club. Like I said many many times, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with believing in stability when we have right man in charge. In fact I agree to that approach. I simply didn't agree that Hughes was the man to take us anywhere. But repeating that is pretty pointless and not very constructive when he isn't coming back, right?

I was big fan of Sven's but I never thought he'd come back and after initial shock, learned to live with it. Same thing happened when Keegan was sacked (which I didn't agree to at the time). I was also mightily pissed off when Royle got the boot but the appointment of Keegan erased that soonfrom my memory.

[ant london]

I haven't been "pleading for patience" have I? I understnad there are people who simply don't think Mancini is the right man and that's that. I'm sure these people just say what they feel is best for the club. Like I said many many times, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with believing in stability when we have right man in charge. In fact I agree to that approach. I simply didn't agree that Hughes was the man to take us anywhere. But repeating that is pretty pointless and not very constructive when he isn't coming back, right?

You've not explicitly pleaded for patience but you have been extraordinarily capable of finding the positives to every situation re Mancini. This, for many (certainly in my eyes) is a pretty seismic shift from the glass half empty that you seemed to have when the previous incumbent was in situ.

I don't know if we have the right man in charge, I certainly hope we do. I like him as a chap and I will give him just as much patience as I gave Hughes.

However, the point Ted was making (or certainly what chimed with me from his post) is that many of us were perfectly happy for Hughes to be given time to find the way to the top, we were enjoying the football served up too.

The current picture painted, in footballing terms, for many of us is that we have had a change of manager forced on us and what we are watching has deteriorated in quality rather than having improved (albeit that results themselves have been positive).

Just as there was a sliding scale of from ambivalence through disgruntlement to vehement dislike towards our previous manager I don't understand why it shouldn't be the case that a similar range of feelings exist towards Roberto...especially....as we are not exactly sparkling so far under his stewardship

[Original Dub]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Fuck sake mate, why do you still get so baffled by the comparrisons made between this manager and the last???

Its the way to measure progress, and if I recall correctly, you were more than willing to compare the last two managers to each other. Yet we're not allowed mention hughes' name without being accused of being obsessed with the man? Its fucking silly mate. Its only converstaion and comparrison and its very very valid.

Also, when I was over at the first home game, Gillie was telling me he didn't think hughes was the man, so making out that his opinion on Mancini is based on his love for hughes is way wide of the truth. If anything, I'll bet Gillie would say he didn't like the last fella, but he prefers him to what Mancini has shown so far. MAybe he goes to matches to be entertained, who knows?

People will talk about hughes until Mancini has gone and then it will become less and less... just like with Sven. That's life, you shouldn't get upset when his name is mentioned.

And as for all this "but he had no other attacking options on the bench" shite talk. Well, I suppose he should have thought of that going into the transfer market for that whole month it was open, but instead our three main targets were three defensive midfielders and a young guy (cup tied) whom I presume Mancini knew little or nothing about.

You reap what you sow. He had a few weeks to look at what he needed and HE decided we didn't need an attacking midfielder. And you know what? Its probably because he wants us to play negative, cagey, defensive football.

It makes sense to me.

People weren't talking about Sven much at all until Hughes left.

And it's perfectly fine to make some comparisons but to bring him up in every given chance. There are people here still harping on like he'd come back one day.

And what part of "I didn't direct it at Gillie" didn't you understand?

Regarding not bringing in attacking midfielder, Jinky looks pretty damn attacking to me. And good signing as well. Maybe you didn't know this but he was cup tied against Stoke. Having played against US earlier in the competition.

Shame you didn't read my whole post....

And the point about Gillie isn't that you were attacking him, but that he, like many others may not like what they're seeing and may well have preferred what they were seeing under the last guy... but that doesn't mean they are obsessed with hughes, it just means they like entertaining attacking football perhaps? I'm amazed that never crossed your mind.

I'm quite confident everyone knows Hughes isn't coming back, but it is very very valid to question his exit, given the horrible football we're being dished out at the minute. It doesn't mean folk want him back, but it does raise the quastion of whether we got the right man in, if some feel like we've regressed.

Its not always black and white mate, just because Mancini is thought of by some as being worse for city than mark hughes, doesn't automatically mean they feel hughes was THE man. Comparrisons HAVE to be made- and Hughes was CONSTANTLY compared to Sven during his reign, if you can't remember that then I suggest you look back through the older threads on "progress" and the like.

[Ted Hughes]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Some of us were enjoying the football & happy that we were progressing nicely when he was sacked & now aren't enjoying the football & don't see any major improvement in progression to make it worthwhile. How are we expected NOT to compare it? It wasn't a dark time for us like it was some of you, it was fun & we were full of optimism. We're hoping to get back to having fun again but obviously are comparing the two & also the reactions of the people who we're so used to reading slagging off the manager suddenly pleading for patience, which incidentally most of us have got.

I haven't been "pleading for patience" have I? I understnad there are people who simply don't think Mancini is the right man and that's that. I'm sure these people just say what they feel is best for the club. Like I said many many times, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with believing in stability when we have right man in charge. In fact I agree to that approach. I simply didn't agree that Hughes was the man to take us anywhere. But repeating that is pretty pointless and not very constructive when he isn't coming back, right?

I was big fan of Sven's but I never thought he'd come back and after initial shock, learned to live with it. Same thing happened when Keegan was sacked (which I didn't agree to at the time). I was also mightily pissed off when Royle got the boot but the appointment of Keegan erased that soonfrom my memory.

It's not especially you I'm referring to, although you wuod have started quite a lot of threads if Hughes had been in charge at this point ;-) but others have come out with the 'he's only been here for....etc etc' routine & having seen their previous, it's like a wind up!
To give an example; I'd go to a game, sometimes we'd win, sometimes we'd draw but I'd see usually a decent amout of good football, perhaps some crappy defensive mistakes etc & I'd come on here hoping to discuss that & find World War 3, with almost all of the people who are now full of wisdom & virtue going absolutely apeshit. Constructive discussion was impossible just loads of vicious negativity about every single detail.

I don't think you'll find most of us who thought Hughes was ok unable to discuss the present performances with a degree of reason, or wanting Mancini out. It's difficult not to compare the two though. I thought there were some signs of a possible improvement in entertainment to come v Stoke but it ended up pretty crap.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Fuck sake mate, why do you still get so baffled by the comparrisons made between this manager and the last???

Its the way to measure progress, and if I recall correctly, you were more than willing to compare the last two managers to each other. Yet we're not allowed mention hughes' name without being accused of being obsessed with the man? Its fucking silly mate. Its only converstaion and comparrison and its very very valid.

Also, when I was over at the first home game, Gillie was telling me he didn't think hughes was the man, so making out that his opinion on Mancini is based on his love for hughes is way wide of the truth. If anything, I'll bet Gillie would say he didn't like the last fella, but he prefers him to what Mancini has shown so far. MAybe he goes to matches to be entertained, who knows?

People will talk about hughes until Mancini has gone and then it will become less and less... just like with Sven. That's life, you shouldn't get upset when his name is mentioned.

And as for all this "but he had no other attacking options on the bench" shite talk. Well, I suppose he should have thought of that going into the transfer market for that whole month it was open, but instead our three main targets were three defensive midfielders and a young guy (cup tied) whom I presume Mancini knew little or nothing about.

You reap what you sow. He had a few weeks to look at what he needed and HE decided we didn't need an attacking midfielder. And you know what? Its probably because he wants us to play negative, cagey, defensive football.

It makes sense to me.

People weren't talking about Sven much at all until Hughes left.

And it's perfectly fine to make some comparisons but to bring him up in every given chance. There are people here still harping on like he'd come back one day.

And what part of "I didn't direct it at Gillie" didn't you understand?

Regarding not bringing in attacking midfielder, Jinky looks pretty damn attacking to me. And good signing as well. Maybe you didn't know this but he was cup tied against Stoke. Having played against US earlier in the competition.

Shame you didn't read my whole post....

And the point about Gillie isn't that you were attacking him, but that he, like many others may not like what they're seeing and may well have preferred what they were seeing under the last guy... but that doesn't mean they are obsessed with hughes, it just means they like entertaining attacking football perhaps? I'm amazed that never crossed your mind.

I'm quite confident everyone knows Hughes isn't coming back, but it is very very valid to question his exit, given the horrible football we're being dished out at the minute. It doesn't mean folk want him back, but it does raise the quastion of whether we got the right man in, if some feel like we've regressed.

Its not always black and white mate, just because Mancini is thought of by some as being worse for city than mark hughes, doesn't automatically mean they feel hughes was THE man. Comparrisons HAVE to be made- and Hughes was CONSTANTLY compared to Sven during his reign, if you can't remember that then I suggest you look back through the older threads on "progress" and the like.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...... I NEVER said Gillie is obsessed with Hughes. I said that considering how much Hughes is talked about. maybe it would be in order to set a sticky topic about him. That suggestion was made without any hidden meanings or undertones but as a genuine suggestion. I could even promise to stay away from it.

Perhaps so BUT it's not Mancini's fault Hughes was sacked. If it wasn't Mancinin taking over, it would've been someone else. Dog eat dog world and all that.

Furthermore, if you want to direct your anger at someone for sacking , that would be Sheik. It would be quite bold of you to question Sheik's decisions but it's completely up to you.

EDIT. I also want to point out everyone vying for my blood that back in december I categorically stated that for me Hughes can stay until the end of the season. I wasn't particulariyl campaigning for his sacking when it eventually happened and I was as surprised as the next man.

[Rag_hater]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Maybe it is you who needs a Hughes sticky. Most of the others have accepted that Hughes has gone and are merely analysing and debating the PRESENT situation.

HUGHES..[strike]IN[/strike]...[strike]OUT[/strike]...GONE....Please keep up.

I didn't direct it at Gillie but general observation. Surely you have noticed how much people still talk about him?

Fuck sake mate, why do you still get so baffled by the comparrisons made between this manager and the last???

Its the way to measure progress, and if I recall correctly, you were more than willing to compare the last two managers to each other. Yet we're not allowed mention hughes' name without being accused of being obsessed with the man? Its fucking silly mate. Its only converstaion and comparrison and its very very valid.

Also, when I was over at the first home game, Gillie was telling me he didn't think hughes was the man, so making out that his opinion on Mancini is based on his love for hughes is way wide of the truth. If anything, I'll bet Gillie would say he didn't like the last fella, but he prefers him to what Mancini has shown so far. MAybe he goes to matches to be entertained, who knows?

People will talk about hughes until Mancini has gone and then it will become less and less... just like with Sven. That's life, you shouldn't get upset when his name is mentioned.

And as for all this "but he had no other attacking options on the bench" shite talk. Well, I suppose he should have thought of that going into the transfer market for that whole month it was open, but instead our three main targets were three defensive midfielders and a young guy (cup tied) whom I presume Mancini knew little or nothing about.

You reap what you sow. He had a few weeks to look at what he needed and HE decided we didn't need an attacking midfielder. And you know what? Its probably because he wants us to play negative, cagey, defensive football.

It makes sense to me.

People weren't talking about Sven much at all until Hughes left.

And it's perfectly fine to make some comparisons but to bring him up in every given chance. There are people here still harping on like he'd come back one day.

And what part of "I didn't direct it at Gillie" didn't you understand?

Regarding not bringing in attacking midfielder, Jinky looks pretty damn attacking to me. And good signing as well. Maybe you didn't know this but he was cup tied against Stoke. Having played against US earlier in the competition.

Shame you didn't read my whole post....

And the point about Gillie isn't that you were attacking him, but that he, like many others may not like what they're seeing and may well have preferred what they were seeing under the last guy... but that doesn't mean they are obsessed with hughes, it just means they like entertaining attacking football perhaps? I'm amazed that never crossed your mind.

I'm quite confident everyone knows Hughes isn't coming back, but it is very very valid to question his exit, given the horrible football we're being dished out at the minute. It doesn't mean folk want him back, but it does raise the quastion of whether we got the right man in, if some feel like we've regressed.

Its not always black and white mate, just because Mancini is thought of by some as being worse for city than mark hughes, doesn't automatically mean they feel hughes was THE man. Comparrisons HAVE to be made- and Hughes was CONSTANTLY compared to Sven during his reign, if you can't remember that then I suggest you look back through the older threads on "progress" and the like.

I agree with you that making comparisons with the previous manager is a good way to judge this one.Surely his record upto date is satisfactory.
However if the quality of football is the biggest negative there is to dislike about the present incumbent then it differs from person to person.For me I am not bothered about the fact we seem to be negative and boring,for me the results are paramount.The results under Roberto leave me with little to complain about and I dont think the fact we are boring is enough of a reason for him to be pilloried.
For me where we finish at the end of the year and what we have achieved is what matters

[Original Dub]

Direct my anger?

Sometimes its very hard to get through to you mate.... I'm angry at the shite football we're playing and some of the recent results, but I'm not angry at the Sheikh - same way you weren't when he gave hughes his full backing.

Make a hughes sticky all you want but its a bit retarded if you ask me. We can't measure progress unless we compare the two and how they got on with the same squad against the same opposition... and also what style football they both used with the same squad.

Don't get so angry when his name is brought up, this whole project should be a constant progression towards our final goal and each manager along the way will have to be compared and analysed...

You do think at the moment tha tif Mancini is questioned its because of a love for hughes and that's a crock of shit. EVERY BODY ON THIS BOARD WANTS MANCINI TO DO WELL.

If they don't, they are cunts.

[Ted Hughes]

I remember that you weren't advocating Hughes sacking at the time & whether Hughes or Mancini are right for the job or not it stands out as a stupid move which has made the whole thing harder rather than easier for all concerned imo.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Direct my anger?

Sometimes its very hard to get through to you mate.... I'm angry at the shite football we're playing and some of the recent results, but I'm not angry at the Sheikh - same way you weren't when he gave hughes his full backing.

Make a hughes sticky all you want but its a bit retarded if you ask me. We can't measure progress unless we compare the two and how they got on with the same squad against the same opposition... and also what style football they both used with the same squad.

Don't get so angry when his name is brought up, this whole project should be a constant progression towards our final goal and each manager along the way will have to be compared and analysed...

You do think at the moment tha tif Mancini is questioned its because of a love for hughes and that's a crock of shit. EVERY BODY ON THIS BOARD WANTS MANCINI TO DO WELL.

If they don't, they are cunts.

Like I said, I didn't start the topic because I didn't want it to be called retarded. Just waited for someone else to come into same conclusion and start it so I wouldn't have to endure the same abuse I get for starting whatever topic, may it be about Hughes or my toes.

And I do NOT think that if Mancini is questioned, its because of a love for Hughes. What gave you that idea? There are people who wanted Hughes out and now want Mancini out as well you know. First "Mancini out" topic for instance was started by a person who wanted Hughes out as well. And there are loads and loads of people who were sitting on fence regarding both managers.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I remember that you weren't advocating Hughes sacking at the time & whether Hughes or Mancini are right for the job or not it stands out as a stupid move which has made the whole thing harder rather than easier for all concerned imo.

While in my opinion Mancini is the right man for us, I actually agree with you. I wasn't all so sure about the timing of the sacking. Results were indifferent and all that but I also kind of guessed that should the new man not make a super dream start, he would be in tight situation. So we might be in square one again soon. That's why best time to make decisions is always in the end of the season.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

lol. These kind of threads are fantastic.

[Wonderwall]

Just as there was a sliding scale of from ambivalence through disgruntlement to vehement dislike

Give over Ant! Put the thesaurus away will you ;-)

[Wonderwall]

lol. These kind of threads are fantastic.

Meh, you have to be in the right mood to read them. I have read the whole thread and the only new thing I have learnt is that Ant has swallowed a dictionary.

[King Kev]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Erm, yes he did actually!

And i blame the owners for this in the way they got rid of the last incumbent

[btajim]

EVERY BODY ON THIS BOARD WANTS MANCINI TO DO WELL.

If they don't, they are cunts.

I don't. I want City to do well.

Mancini is just the latest in a long line of Managers at the Club. 5 since we moved ground! I try not to get too attached to any of them.

[Original Dub]

EVERY BODY ON THIS BOARD WANTS MANCINI TO DO WELL.

If they don't, they are cunts.

I don't. I want City to do well.

Mancini is just the latest in a long line of Managers at the Club. 5 since we moved ground! I try not to get too attached to any of them.

City will do well if Mancini does well. In fact, if it is decided Mancini has done well at the end of the season, we will be playing champions league football next season.

But you knew I meant that Jim.... didn't you?

Therefore its only natural to want everyone at the club to do well, especially the boss.

[gillie]

Kev...NQDP,
You make the point regarding Hughes and quote Gillie. Gillie NEVER mentioned Hughes. He criticised Mancini but it was you who brought Hughes out of the cupboard.

Erm, yes he did actually!

And i blame the owners for this in the way they got rid of the last incumbent

KK quoting one line of what i actually wrote gives a false impression of what i was trying to say imo.I do not want our manager sacked i just want to see some entertaing football is that really too much to ask for considering the amount thats been spent on our squad and yes i know Mancini has hardly spent anything but the fact remains 200million has been spent and for that kind of money surely entertainment should come with it.