***West Ham v Champions Official Match Thread***

[PeterParker]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

[salford city]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

Im a big fan of playing players in their positions regardless of age. The talented youngsters train with the first team every day. Whilst there is an undoubted step up in class between training and match play, if they are good enough they should play or what is the point of having them around? Idont buy into if we play them and they drop a bollock, it will harm them long term. The same is true if they play a blinder. Ultimately Pep does not trust them and thinks playing midfielders back there is the way to go. It isn't so get it sorted this window

[PeterParker]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

Im a big fan of playing players in their positions regardless of age. The talented youngsters train with the first team every day. Whilst there is an undoubted step up in class between training and match play, if they are good enough they should play or what is the point of having them around? Idont buy into if we play them and they drop a bollock, it will harm them long term. The same is true if they play a blinder. Ultimately Pep does not trust them and thinks playing midfielders back there is the way to go. It isn't so get it sorted this window

We are known for having one of the best EDS systems in England, so not trusting them is odd.
What it will happen? Will Khaldoon come and say fuck off, we want to spend 50 mil for a player, not use our own, you are sacked?

He receives reports, he knows them, why on earth wouldn't he try them?
But then you look that he played Garcia, who, by chance, is catalan.

It's really impossible to defend him with some things and that includes he is a checkbook manager.
I don't like it, but has legs.

[City64]

Fucks sake .

[Dimples]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

Im a big fan of playing players in their positions regardless of age. The talented youngsters train with the first team every day. Whilst there is an undoubted step up in class between training and match play, if they are good enough they should play or what is the point of having them around? Idont buy into if we play them and they drop a bollock, it will harm them long term. The same is true if they play a blinder. Ultimately Pep does not trust them and thinks playing midfielders back there is the way to go. It isn't so get it sorted this window

We are known for having one of the best EDS systems in England, so not trusting them is odd.
What it will happen? Will Khaldoon come and say fuck off, we want to spend 50 mil for a player, not use our own, you are sacked?

He receives reports, he knows them, why on earth wouldn't he try them?
But then you look that he played Garcia, who, by chance, is catalan.

It's really impossible to defend him with some things and that includes he is a checkbook manager.
I don't like it, but has legs.

That is the argument that was used re Phil and Sancho.
Look at both now, who got the call right? Pep did.
Youngsters need time, patience and education in Pep's systems of play. You can't rush this.

IMO, Phil will evolve again next season, he will begin to play in central midfield more often.
Sancho got his game time in Germany but if he had been patient he would be a better player now and have won some medals.

[Mase]

Absolutely no way to know if Sancho would have been a better player had he stayed. “That is just speculation.”

[Dimples]

Absolutely no way to know if Sancho would have been a better player had he stayed. “That is just speculation.”

Very good. Important not to forget.

You are right, it is speculation. We will never know.

[Mase]

Absolutely no way to know if Sancho would have been a better player had he stayed. “That is just speculation.”

Very good. Important not to forget.

You are right, it is speculation. We will never know.

I will agree that Sancho was stupid and should have knuckled down at City. Not sure whether he was badly advised, but in one sense I’m glad Pep didn’t go back in for him and openly said, “he’s made his bed” when asked about it.

Similar rumours now with Sanè that Bayern want rid.

[Beefymcfc]

Dermot Gallagher towing the party line again! Jesus is moving backwards so no oih Dermot did he kick his calf Yes or No. Ridiculous conclusion.

Watched it before and can only say that Halsey called it right, he’s just a PGMOL stooge, owned and paid by them to spout whatever the PL and Sky want to brush the floor clean.

He basically said it was a foul but not a penalty as Jesus moved into the kick. Good to see the interviewer call him out and say that the rules are now that you can kick somebody in the box and it won’t be a penalty. As for the freaky Liverpool fan, an absolutely embarrassing assessment that even his partner in crime was laughing at their contribution.

[carl_feedthegoat]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

Im a big fan of playing players in their positions regardless of age. The talented youngsters train with the first team every day. Whilst there is an undoubted step up in class between training and match play, if they are good enough they should play or what is the point of having them around? Idont buy into if we play them and they drop a bollock, it will harm them long term. The same is true if they play a blinder. Ultimately Pep does not trust them and thinks playing midfielders back there is the way to go. It isn't so get it sorted this window

We are known for having one of the best EDS systems in England, so not trusting them is odd.
What it will happen? Will Khaldoon come and say fuck off, we want to spend 50 mil for a player, not use our own, you are sacked?

He receives reports, he knows them, why on earth wouldn't he try them?
But then you look that he played Garcia, who, by chance, is catalan.

It's really impossible to defend him with some things and that includes he is a checkbook manager.
I don't like it, but has legs.

That is the argument that was used re Phil and Sancho.
Look at both now, who got the call right? .

Financially speaking , Sancho got it spot on .

[Dimples]

The left back issues is very odd.
Having offensive fullbacks is one of the keys of his entire system. Remember when he came that was his first direction. He kept Zaba because he was a legend, but he needed fellas with pace.

It's not his fault that our best option is a lump of shit, agree, however, why we never seem to sort this out and often try patches like Zinch and this year Cancelo.
Esbrand was delicious in his cameo, he is surrounded by the best group of today's football. It's impossible to fail if you are focused on football and not fucking around.

Im a big fan of playing players in their positions regardless of age. The talented youngsters train with the first team every day. Whilst there is an undoubted step up in class between training and match play, if they are good enough they should play or what is the point of having them around? Idont buy into if we play them and they drop a bollock, it will harm them long term. The same is true if they play a blinder. Ultimately Pep does not trust them and thinks playing midfielders back there is the way to go. It isn't so get it sorted this window

We are known for having one of the best EDS systems in England, so not trusting them is odd.
What it will happen? Will Khaldoon come and say fuck off, we want to spend 50 mil for a player, not use our own, you are sacked?

He receives reports, he knows them, why on earth wouldn't he try them?
But then you look that he played Garcia, who, by chance, is catalan.

It's really impossible to defend him with some things and that includes he is a checkbook manager.
I don't like it, but has legs.

That is the argument that was used re Phil and Sancho.
Look at both now, who got the call right? .

Financially speaking , Sancho got it spot on .

He did, but is he happy?

[Dubaimancityfan]

Why was Mahrez still on the pitch to take the pen? I’ve championed him all season, but he was terrible today. Why wasn’t he off?

That’s what I thought at the time. Mahrez did absolutely nothing the entire match and should have been subbed. The penalty would have been taken by KDB and he would have nailed it.
Pep’s decision making comes back to bite him again.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Why was Mahrez still on the pitch to take the pen? I’ve championed him all season, but he was terrible today. Why wasn’t he off?

That’s what I thought at the time. Mahrez did absolutely nothing the entire match and should have been subbed. The penalty would have been taken by KDB and he would have nailed it.
Pep’s decision making comes back to bite him again.

According to some on here , when we lose or draw its the players fault or the referees fault.....win and its down to the managers chosen starting 11 ,his overall game plan, his tactics or his magical timely substitution ( The last one is pretty fantastical , but I have to include it )

By the way you are spot on about Mahrez.

[City64]

In the olden era before the media totally took over everything in our daily lives that result would be acclaimed as a brilliant away point and a step nearer the title . The world we unfortunately live in today is totally different.

[Original Dub]

In the olden era before the media totally took over everything in our daily lives that result would be acclaimed as a brilliant away point and a step nearer the title . The world we unfortunately live in today is totally different.

It is unfortunately. And like the officiating, it's not a level playing field.

Let's take our very own fans perception of what will happen between now and Sunday...

It is a given that Liverpool will win tonight. It is a given that they will win on Sunday.

Some are near full meltdown and seem to see our chances of winning on Sunday as a roll of the dice or 50/50.

That's what the media can do. That's how powerful they are.

And if any wants any evidence that this works, all they need to do is read some of the posts on here over the last couple of days.

Can someone check the form table over the last 6 matches for points and goals scored because I don't think the general consensus matches up?

[carl_feedthegoat]

In the olden era before the media totally took over everything in our daily lives that result would be acclaimed as a brilliant away point and a step nearer the title . The world we unfortunately live in today is totally different.

It is unfortunately. And like the officiating, it's not a level playing field.

Let's take our very own fans perception of what will happen between now and Sunday...

It is a given that Liverpool will win tonight. It is a given that they will win on Sunday.

Some are near full meltdown and seem to see our chances of winning on Sunday as a roll of the dice or 50/50.

That's what the media can do. That's how powerful they are.

And if any wants any evidence that this works, all they need to do is read some of the posts on here over the last couple of days.

Can someone check the form table over the last 6 matches for points and goals scored because I don't think the general consensus matches up?

Whilst you are in Stat mode , maybe you want to check the stats on the type of teams we lost and drew against - On paper , we should beat Aston villa but on paper we should also have beaten the 2 teams below , and we had no defensive injury problems.

Palace home Lost ( 0-2)

Southampton Home Drew ( 0-0)

Southampton away Drew ( 1-1)

Worrying about the Villa game is fully fucking justified.

[Mase]

[carl_feedthegoat]

:lol:

I’m still trying to figure out what the media has to do with seeing with my own eyes .

Baffling

[PeterParker]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

[Original Dub]

The suicide squad.

Some things never change