Milan Derby CL semi

[nottsblue]

Dzeko misses a great chance for 3-0

[johnny crossan]

AC bottling it again, Cookie will be chortling

[dick dastardley]

So flares and fireworks inside the stadium, let's see if any punishment is handed out

[Harry Dowd scored]

Somebody called Divock Origi on for Milan, now where have I heard that name before

[nottsblue]

Somebody called Divock Origi on for Milan, now where have I heard that name before

The reject bin

[Blue Jam]

There would be something nice about Dzeko being on the pitch if we win the CL

But we probably won't

[johnny crossan]

There would be something nice about Dzeko being on the pitch if we win the CL

But we probably won't

you mean 'and we certainly will' I think

[Blue Jam]

I dare not

[PeterParker]

Somebody called Divock Origi on for Milan, now where have I heard that name before

Just about 900 minutes played for Milan this year, injured most of the time, just two goals. Hmm, a pattern?
Nothing to do with Wijnaldum, Coutinho, Mane, Can imploding after leaving KKK ground.

[BlueinBosnia]

'Kloc' lights up the San Siro (BiB will explain if necessary)

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

[johnny crossan]

'Kloc' lights up the San Siro (BiB will explain if necessary)

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

I hesitate to question your expertise on this subject BiB but not a Klutz "he was nicknamed "Kloc" - a Bosnian local slang term for a lamp post or the pole that holds up a street-sign" https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/l ... g-1.497023

[BlueinBosnia]

'Kloc' lights up the San Siro (BiB will explain if necessary)

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

I hesitate to question your expertise on this subject BiB but not a Klutz "he was nicknamed "Kloc" - a Bosnian local slang term for a lamp post or the pole that holds up a street-sign" https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/l ... g-1.497023

Kloc (pron. Klotz) is literally the loan-word 'klutz'. That, in turn, is taken from the Yiddish word that means beam or post. But Yiddish had limited impact upon Bosnian, because Ladino was the main Jewish language.

[johnny crossan]

'Kloc' lights up the San Siro (BiB will explain if necessary)

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

I hesitate to question your expertise on this subject BiB but not a Klutz "he was nicknamed "Kloc" - a Bosnian local slang term for a lamp post or the pole that holds up a street-sign" https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/l ... g-1.497023

Kloc (pron. Klotz) is literally the loan-word 'klutz'. That, in turn, is taken from the Yiddish word that means beam or post. But Yiddish had limited impact upon Bosnian, because Ladino was the main Jewish language.

Yes I see the etymological connection but you aren't disputing his fellow countryman nicknamed Edin 'Kloc' meaning the "lamp post" on account of his slender build, height and consequent aerial ability are you? It is just that you don't remember his having that soubriquet yourself either in his own country or over here - is that correct?
"However, it fits perfectly with the gangly youth who was nicknamed “Kloc” - local slang for lamppost or the pole that holds up a road sign - at boyhood club Zeljeznicar on account of him being tall and cumbersome. When Zeljeznicar were offered €25,000 by Czech club Teplice for Dzeko’s services in 2005 they could not believe their luck". from this story https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... y-21900242

[BlueinBosnia]

'Kloc' lights up the San Siro (BiB will explain if necessary)

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

I hesitate to question your expertise on this subject BiB but not a Klutz "he was nicknamed "Kloc" - a Bosnian local slang term for a lamp post or the pole that holds up a street-sign" https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/l ... g-1.497023

Kloc (pron. Klotz) is literally the loan-word 'klutz'. That, in turn, is taken from the Yiddish word that means beam or post. But Yiddish had limited impact upon Bosnian, because Ladino was the main Jewish language.

Yes I see the etymological connection but you aren't disputing his fellow countryman nicknamed Edin 'Kloc' meaning the "lamp post" on account of his slender build, height and consequent aerial ability are you? It is just that you don't remember his having that soubriquet yourself either in his own country or over here - is that correct?
"However, it fits perfectly with the gangly youth who was nicknamed “Kloc” - local slang for lamppost or the pole that holds up a road sign - at boyhood club Zeljeznicar on account of him being tall and cumbersome. When Zeljeznicar were offered €25,000 by Czech club Teplice for Dzeko’s services in 2005 they could not believe their luck". from this story https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... y-21900242

I'm not disputing it. I've never heard it used to describe him until now, though, and it seems to have been an in-crowd nickname, that's never been used on the streets but only among his teammates. Also, it's an unusual word to use in Sarajevo: an equivalent would be someone in Devon having the nickname 'muffin' due to their fondness for chip butties.

[johnny crossan]

That's just 'klutz' spelled the Bosnian/Serbian/Croatian way. Was it Dzeko's childhood nickname, or something? I remember there's some connection between the word and him, but I've never heard people use it to describe him (partly because it's not in the national parlance, but instead more limited to the north of the country).

I hesitate to question your expertise on this subject BiB but not a Klutz "he was nicknamed "Kloc" - a Bosnian local slang term for a lamp post or the pole that holds up a street-sign" https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/l ... g-1.497023

Kloc (pron. Klotz) is literally the loan-word 'klutz'. That, in turn, is taken from the Yiddish word that means beam or post. But Yiddish had limited impact upon Bosnian, because Ladino was the main Jewish language.

Yes I see the etymological connection but you aren't disputing his fellow countryman nicknamed Edin 'Kloc' meaning the "lamp post" on account of his slender build, height and consequent aerial ability are you? It is just that you don't remember his having that soubriquet yourself either in his own country or over here - is that correct?
"However, it fits perfectly with the gangly youth who was nicknamed “Kloc” - local slang for lamppost or the pole that holds up a road sign - at boyhood club Zeljeznicar on account of him being tall and cumbersome. When Zeljeznicar were offered €25,000 by Czech club Teplice for Dzeko’s services in 2005 they could not believe their luck". from this story https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... y-21900242

I'm not disputing it. I've never heard it used to describe him until now, though, and it seems to have been an in-crowd nickname, that's never been used on the streets but only among his teammates. Also, it's an unusual word to use in Sarajevo: an equivalent would be someone in Devon having the nickname 'muffin' due to their fondness for chip butties.

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

[BlueinBosnia]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

[rosbif cuisson 'bleu']

chopping_block_with_axe.jpg

"kloc"

[BlueinBosnia]

chopping_block_with_axe.jpg

"kloc"

That's probably the last one my wife was describing: a chopping block! I was thinking of some contraption that looked like a railway buffer stop, whose name escapes me.

[Nigels Tackle]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[johnny crossan]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

Wooden pole eh? That sounds about right! What we call a clothes prop up north - so 'Kloc' is the term for a long thin pole that holds up washing lines, road signs and street lights in Bosnia. Hoist by your own petard I'm afraid BiB. I am disappointed that you've failed to notice this important piece of folklore about our only player from your country for two decades. It's also good for your mental health that you don't move from the position where you not knowing something makes it unimportant to the stage where if you don't know about it then it doesn't exist